Princess Arabia

No I didn't. At least try to understand what I'm saying.

It's a contest now. My house is bigger than your house. I do more than you do. Same difference, Some don't recognize they are stressing my point even more. I'm better than you in this context. What you do is no match for what I do. That was in the air for the asking of that "what do you do" question.

No one said anything about desire being a curse, neither is it a blessing it just is. Curse and blessing goes full circle and the difference is only thought.

Ok, point taken; and you do raise a good point when you say "gradually reduces expectations because of a sense of more fulfillment". That's a difference; because in materialism the need is always more and more and more. Spiritualism can also create the need for more and more and more also but I get that the difference could result in a less egoic need for more.

Just the fact of even this question shows an air of better than and trying to mock what one thinks the other is or isn't doing. It's a now comparison of who is doing what and laughing at one you think knows nothing about doing spiritual work. It's being condescending and putting oneself above the other. Judgements that come from ignorance because the assumptions have no merit other than what one thinks about the other person and not from anything known. I don't have to explain to you or anyone what I do or don't do on a spiritual level; but I would be more inclined to say if one had asked in a more respectable and less condescending manner. What I will say, however, is my demeanor, mannerism, respect level, the way I communicate to others, less confronting and laughing at others' way of expression and respecting people's privacy and not demanding of one to disclose practices they do or not do can far outweigh any spiritual practice one does. In the end, it's about living in a way that we're not a menace to others, constantly showing up in disrespectful ways, uplifting others, sharing ourselves in ways that can change people's lives for the better and bringing out in others their best, the best we know how and to maybe put a smile on someone's face that we come in contact with. IT'S NOT SO MUCH WHAT ONE DOES at times, but what one doesn't do; and i damn sure am not a pain in the ass to most people I come in contact with and i do care for the way I make people feel with the way I communicate with them and try my best not to keep being a menace and a pest in people's lives and that can count for any spiritual practice one can do to try to bring happiness to themselves for the sake of less suffering in their obviously pathetic lives. If I don't have a problem with myself and the world and i see no problems with the design of the Almighty and I'm not in conflict with the mind nor my thoughts, and I'm in acceptance with the way things are whether good bad or indifferent, then, as far as I'm concerned, I don't need to do any spiritual practices to try to change anything. However, whatever it is that I do, is none of your business and I'm not in the business of comparing myself to you or anybody's expression of how they conduct their spiritual practices; and as far as I'm concerned the act of taking a shit can be labelled as a spiritual practice; but it won't be to your limited mind and sheep mentality because in your mind you have to do something that is acceptable to the masses as to what SHOULD be done spiritually for it to be considered a worthwhile practice to save you from the miserable life you have and need to save yourself from. Thank you for the question and I hope this answered it well enough to satisfy your pathetic curiousity.

Just wanted to share this video that inspired this post and I totally agree.

Don't agree. Still egoic, imo. Still an activity geared towards something. Nothing wrong with it, but still egoic. Long-lasting forms of happiness is a measured egoic accomplishment. Doesn't matter, still a form of seeking and an egoic pursuit being sought after and claimed to be a better pursuit of happiness. A longer lasting happiness VS a shorter one doesn't make the pursuit any better but only in the mind. You can still compare it to materialism where a cheap watch VS an expensive longer-lasting watch will bring more long-lasting happiness. The difference is the content.

The less suffering could still be equated to moving in a bigger house VS a small dump. It's still a gain and an achievement for the personal ego. Still an egoic pursuit. Only the ego suffers. Difference is content.

I like the way you framed it. Like I said in one of my comments, if done without expecting in return but just for the joy of it, imo, it's not a match to materialism, but if done to achieve something there's no difference other than contents because all is mind and thought is matter.

Nice.

You're telling me how you saw it. Your opinion of it. Thanks for sharing. I totally disagree but to each is own. I don't even see the beautiful actors and the wearing of good clothes. The nazi soldiers were in uniform and the people in the camp were dressed appropriately. There were terrible things happening to the prisoners one of which they were burnt alive in the shower. Another got her baby shot and wannabe escapees were executed in front of their peers. I didn't see anyone dressed up nor with fancy hair. They were eating filth as in dirty water and bread and the soldiers beat the feeder from not serving fast enough. Their clothes were sometimes raggedy and stained. You described a totally different movie in my eyes but like I said to each is own.

Oh my! Such genius. You are our new secretary. @Yimpayou're fired. Can't top this one. You have been demoted to moderator. Lol. Ilm so silly, I think I need help.

I'm saying after the initial Rolex wears off, they'll need something else. After meditating and the peaceful feeling comes, more meditating is needed after that peace wears off. It takes consistent buying of stuff and consuming to maintain that feeling and it takes consistent spiritual practices to maintain that feeling. I don't see anyone meditating one time and say they are in constant peace and fullfilment. I see a lot on here still miserable even though they do spiritual practices. IT doesn't matter what one does, it seems it needs to be constantly done to maintain itself and material or spiritual it's still a feeling being sought after even though spiritually speaking the feeling may last longer or is more in depth. You're not going to give up your practices tomorrow and say I'm alright now I've gained all I needed to gain and the consumer isn't stopping buying stuff because they are content. Both takes consistency and pretty much till you die. The person doing either just for the pleasure of doing them and not because they're looking to get something in return is the one, to me, who is indifferent and who knows how to enjoy life without getting anything from life back. When you're doing either for a gain there's no difference only in the content and maybe to satisfy the ego's desire for a better feeling and the spiritual seeker will believe they are being more productive but they still need to continue those practices till they die because if they were to stop that ego will lose the grip it thinks It has on it's well-being and the reason it's doing those practices. When Spiritual practices are done merely for the joy of doing them, then that's no match for materialistic consuming. That's the difference to me. That's all I'm saying. I love Spirituality and I will not give it up for anything. I just love it for it's own sake.

Ok Gotcha.

Not fair.....that doesn't count...boo boo.

huh? You lost me here.

Everyone breathes?

Yup. All you said. That's the fucking illusion. The person that agrees is the illusion, the person that doesn't agree is the illusion. The meaning of these words is the illusion. The one that thinks life is happening to it, is the illusion, I mean it runs deep. What appears is not the illusion and is just arising from no-thing and gets interpreted.

Nothing because it's illusory. The need for desire stems from separation which is illusory. It cannot be helped.

I understand all this. You have missed the point of the post and simultaneously made it. The difference is the type of feeling. Still a feeling being sought after. Also by telling me my spiritual practice is wrong if I believed a certain thing. Showing how arrogant Spiritual beings can get and thinking their way is the right way and how others' are wrong. You have said how you've felt after sex, watches materialistic gains etc, doesnt mean someone else doesn't feel intense peace after sex or satisfaction after getting a Rolex.. Both has to be maintained to sustain those feelings.

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That's not what I said. I'm not in the mood for Spiritual crap today. Happiness is already here no need to seek it, just take away the shit that's veiling it and it will reveal itself to you. That's what I'm referring to. It's all here right now. We are human generators and just need to know how to allow for the energy to flow through. Nothing is stopping you but your own mind and maybe if you take Leo's course you'll learn how. Plus it's only the mind that seeks happiness the body is perfectly fine just functioning and producing.

@CARDOZZOgets the award for abiding by rules. He'd make a great mod you' all. Only problem, people would be getting warnings from left to right and nobody will be left. Haha

I didn't even see the last two yet when I made that comment. Then I saw them coming. Ok you can give any amount you like. Lol