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I'm aware of this but this still had to be learnt. Yes, I'm aware, didn't say I was against processes by gurus and I'm also aware that intellectually knowing is not the same. None of what you said contradicted what I'm saying. You're still the one giving these guru's the authority to put you on these things and you're the one choosing them, which came from you. That's the bottom line. Love you

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I don't agree with this, but it's just my opinion. I think you have made, though, a generalization because some people learn differently and I think it depends on what you're trying to accomplish. This can work for or against you, depending. Martial arts is in a different category than Spirituality. Yes, I believe certain things apply but not to something as personal as Spirituality which is more about Truth and one person certainly doesn't know it all. Diversity can be a good thing when diving into this work just the same as how we read read books from different authors. No matter who I listen to, I always try to listen to my heart and use my inner authority and go with what that is trying to tell me. I have learnt a lot throughout this journey and one of the things I've learnt that is most important to me is to trust my own inner wisdom and try to develop that the best I know how. I cannot do that by following one particular teaching because I will be subjected to their beliefs and terminologies and ways of being and neglect what is authentic to me and true for me. Guidance is meaningful, but in the end this is my journey and I must trust my inner guidance because it speaks directly to me and i'm the one that's behind the steering wheel - not the egoic mind but my true Self.

I'm not saying any of this I was saying you are obsessed with Sadhguru's and his teachings and it's pretty much only him that you quote or share teachings of. You mentioned nothing about that. I'm obsessed with Spirituality too but it's more of a love and curiosity and a passion to learn about Reality, the Universe, the mind etc from all walks of life, teachers and resources. Nothing wrong if you're only into a particular teacher but I was just saying you can get too attached and in the process lose the ability to think for yourself or see things from a different perspective and limit the mind to only a particular way of viewing things. That's all. There's always going to be some form of criticism of people in all walks of life, every situation and we think we know what's best for others to do and I'm aware of that so its not a criticism but it's a limitation because you will pretty much always reject an opposing pov than Sadghuru's and try to show how that person is wrong because your mind hasn't been trained to see from another angle if we follow one person's teaching and never open ourselves up to other perspectives. I do respect your presence here on the forum and have even thanked you in the past for being here because you always share some valuable insights and pov's so i'm not the least bit undermining your stance, but I just think it's a bit limiting to only share stuff from just one gurus perspective and can cause us to be blinded by certain aspects of the Truth.

It's lack of self-respect to put people down. Understand that and you'll stop judging. Watch this. The opposite is also true.

This doesn't say anything good. You think it does, and you're saying it with a lot of "yeah, I'm the real deal give me the real deal". What happens when you're horny, what happens when there's no compliant person around, what happens when you don't have a gf or even when she doesn't want to atm, what happens when you get sexually frustrated, what happens when......I mean you can use porn as a substitute for when the real deal isn't available. You're either not getting it a lot or have a partner who has the same sex drive as you or just not that into sex. I'm saying this because it sounds like the guys who hate strip clubs and call it a tease and prefer to go to prostitutes to get the real deal instead of having some innocent fun without directly cheating on their other half. Also I notice you're always calling something disgusting. Watch that mind of yours, it's doing some disgusting filtering.

Thats not the point. Obsessions is a form of love, hate is a form of love,, blah blah blah blah. We're still here in the relative domain having a discussion. If you want to go there everything is One, its all the Absolute, you are me and i am you, this discussion is pointless since I'm just talking to myself, so is life and everything in this nothingness of a nothing hell hole. There's your love. Hahahahahaha

I see obsession. But it doesn't matter what I see, all irrelevant in the bigger scheme of things. You're defending maybe because you have a similar obsession or see it within yourself somewhere.

I clicked on this to see if Sadhguru was an influence. If his name would be mentioned. And walla! This is total obsession. But you do you. It's an observation, not a judgement. He does have some great things he says and knows his stuff and is a great teacher and influencer but there are some downsides to being obsessed with a particular gurus teachings.

When you look up to another human being you're looking down on yourself its automatic. He has obviously put Sadhguru on a pedestal. If you watch the beginning of this video you'll understand the effects of doing that.

@Buck EdwardsYou also have to realize that just about everything in life is that way. It's all about perception. Anything that is perceivable will have it's challenges and differences of opinions. We are all looking at Reality through different lenses and it depends on the type of lens you're looking through. If you're looking through tainted lens, you will view what you're looking at as tainted. Yes, these lens can change their colors but it still depends on the state of consciousness one is in that will determine the transformation. You are like a projector and are projecting from within unto without. That's how consciousness and awareness works. It's impossible to be any other way. If you change what's within, what's without has no choice but to also change. That change is also going to be interpreted by a limited mind blinded by it's conditionings and programming. There are going to be upsides and downsides TO EVERYTHING. Yin and yang. What you focus on you expand so if you're focused on the downsides, you'll become aware of more downsides, not forgetting that it's the mind that is determining either sides and not the truth. We cannot escape these polarities as long as we see ourselves as a separate entity who is in a world that is apart from us. Everywhere you go you're there and there's nothing on the outside that determines what you see when you look, it is always coming from the lens you're viewing from.

yeah but you're doing the same thing too. Language is a barrier and is dualistic so certain things cannot be avoided. The alternative is what? Go around life like a zombie and not engage in interests? Isn't it scientifically proven that energy cannot be created or destroyed, i'm not sure, so please note i'm not saying so definitively. You quote Sadhguru a lot and it seems you're obsessed with his teachings also, so you're still coming from a place of "things you've heard, beliefs and biases just from that fact alone. Just about every video you've posted is from him, even the book you posted in the audio book section is from him. If you've noticed, and not saying this is right or wrong, but I'm not limited to only a few but I spread my wings a lot so I'm not susceptible to any one particular style of teaching or one particular person's ideologies, beliefs etc, I like to explore all different channels so it makes for wider perceptions that aren't limited to a particular style. This, for me, allows me to be more flexible, open and to expand more easily as i'm not stuck into a particular paradigm. All that said, I am not downplaying what you've said as I have never did any studies personally on the nature of energy and I don't know for sure if it can or cannot be created or destroyed or even defined so I will leave that open as a possibility that my assumptions are incorrect. P.S. I just noticed even your signature is about Sadghuru. You're obsessed with him and that isn't good when it comes to your own truth and ways of being.

Yes, I even started a post on this a while back, maybe 6mths ago because I noticed it too.

This makes no sense, respectfully saying and not as a judgement. You are just parroting phrases without even understanding what they really mean as in "letting go" and "acceptance".

I thought energy cannot be created or destroyed.

This works because you're cute and it takes balls to say something like that to a girl, it shows confidence that, you're not trying to impress and shows you're fun to be around and don't rake things too seriously. If a guy had a certain demeanor about him, he was nervous, looked a certain way and had some inner intention of just wanting to fuck her and that's it, it definitely wouldn't work. But yeah, I could see you pulling off something like that to the right kind of girl.

Or change the way you play the game.

Don't ask, am I interrupting something because you are, but it doesn't matter if its a nightclub, bar or something of the sort, that's the beauty about these places you can just talk to people without a reason, just talk but make it spontaneous and flowy. How you're saying it here is too polished and please NO WHAT DO YOU CALL A .......JOKES. You had to even explain your joke in parentheses, hehe.

Noooooooooooooo, dont you dare start an approach like that. What's wrong with you. Can't you hold off on yourself for awhile and not get into your wonderful philosophical talks that may or may not bore or scare some chick away. Be playful, spontaneous, go with the flow, be in the moment. Whatever is happening around you at the time speak on that, the music, the people there, talk about the place you're at, ask her where she's from, tell her where your're from blah blah blah. Save that other shit for later even if it's the most important thing to you. Get over yourself in these moments and pay attention to what's happening then and now.

I respect all that you had to say and I understand your pov. I still stick to what I'm saying, keeping in mind there are always exceptions to any rule. Not saying this is a rule, just a figure of speech. Yes, men will feel that way too. I used the telemarketing example but getting a girl's number is at least a start and shows she MIGHT be interested. Not always. So you take it from there. Hold a convo and maybe set up a date. See where it goes. This is not a true statement. Anyone who understands the differences will tell you otherwise including John Gray who wrote the book Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. As humans, yes, and certain general characteristics that both sexes share but when it comes to intimacy, relationships and sex we are not the same. Each individual has their own unique personality and likes and dislikes pertaining to relationships etc, but there are vast differences between the two. It's just how nature intended. Even nature has differences between its feminine and masculine characteristics. There's a reason for that. It's not about knowing ourselves or not. How many people are idiots, assholes, insecure, liars, manipulators and all the negative traits people have, if they knew these things about themselves how does that make for better relations with others. If that's the case then they'll just be better at being assholes, idiots, liars, manipulators to others in a comfortable way. So this statement doesn't hold up. Even if they had very positive traits, we're still dealing with other beings who have their own personalities and have traumas and issues and insecurities etc. It's being comfortable in your own skin and not be influenced by fearful thoughts and insecurities we have about ourselves. I'm not saying girls don't approach at all, some do but it's not the norm or we wouldn't even be discussing this. I'll tell you this, though, just about everyone I've heard guys say this, the next sentence that comes after is but she wasn't my type. Even Thought Art, our mod, said that in his thread about going out last night. Every time i've seen it on here too, but she wasn't my type. At the same token, I've seen guys say how they were attracted to a girl that was not normally their type and went for it. Not always, but subconsciously guys will like the idea and it boosts their self-esteem and make them feel good but it's not a trait that most masculine men find attractive in women. Automatically, she's not going to be your type for that reason alone, unless she's super hot or really your type, but the value still went down. I even read on here where a guy said he slept with a 9 then slept with a 10 and now the 9 looks like a 7. If a man doesn't have to work for something he finds valuable it doesn't become as valuable to him if it came too easy. It's all good when you're young and cute and teenagers are all over you and beenie bop girls are coming on to you or drunk girls or girls who are just being playful, but i'm speaking on a much higher level. It's just how we're made to survive, not just physically but to keep the species motivated to keep this reproduction thing going and the attraction process, in so many words. Study animals and it's the same kind of thing.

This is magical. I hate it sometimes when I feel bad about something, not because I don't want to be negative but a bit guilty that this is so beautiful and my petty little egoic concerns seems so trivial compared to the magnitude of what this is. I know it's a part of "this" but I wish sometimes to not have to deal with petty little human bullshit. Seems like there's always a lesson to be learnt or something to be transcended. Somehow I think us humans secretly or unconsciously love our challenges and suffering because were afraid to fully open ourselves to what we truly are and we keep playing this silly game of trivial pursuit because of boredom and we need the adrenaline rush as fuel to keep the dream alive. It's so deeply ingrained that we deny ourselves and keep looking for the next pursuit like zombies knowing damn well that it won't matter in the grand scheme of things as it won't last because we all "die" eventually and go back to where we came from which is nowhere. Then again, there's no one doing anything; its existence existing.

That girl in the black was eyeing you out and smiling real hard. Was that you she was looking at and was that one of the two that approached you?

Very nice. Sometimes when there's nowhere to go but up, this is the result. Someone else could have had the capacity to even go deeper down the hole but as the saying goes the Universe doesn't give us anything we can't handle, you were at your limit, which can be a beautiful place to be if it results in this. Unfortunately some give up and Crack, you opened up and expanded. Lovely. Nice post.

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Yes. I can see how the mind has a hard time with this and creates confusion for "itself". The egoic mind, that is. It is what creates separation in the first place and if we're not conscious enough at all times it can confuse itself and go right back into duality while trying to process and think about certain things. This is why no mind is a feat to try and accomplish for this reason and to only use it when logic and reason is needed or to accomplish certain tasks. Don't use the mind to get rid of the mind, it won't work. What is needed is to be in a certain state where the mind is silent. Is that correct.