Princess Arabia

There's no I.

I am familiar with devotion. I do that spontaneously, but not to anything or anyone but my own being, presence. I put my hand on my heart and feel the presence or however I'm doing it at the time. You're still speaking about devotion to something outside, that's fine, but not for me. In the end, it really doesn't matter, it's just a matter of taste and preference. All I know is I'm all there is. Not Princess Arabia because that's just a name that represents an Avatar. Life itself, existence.

Whatever happens is what was needed to be done. You and others miss the point of non-doership. It's not that nothing is being done or decisions aren't being made its that they are being done without anyone's involvement. It's like a system, this system is just happening just like this conversation. It's hard to understand because the ego wants to take credit for everything but there's no ego so there.

I don't think that's what he was saying. At least that's not what I'm saying. Life and business goes on but it's from a place of what's happening and not I have to do this or else...... Life is taking care of itself and that includes when one thinks they have to do and do and do and not understand that the doing is doing them and not the other way around. There's nothing that needs to be done for whatever is already taking place to take place: it's only the mind that thinks so, likewise its only the mind that suffers.

I like this. Nothing wrong with listening to gurus or Spiritual teachers. For me, it's when they are worshipped or idolized that's the difference. They're the only ones I listen to, the only person I share, the only message I resonate with.....all these are symbols that you're idolizing. If a message isn't filled with love or showing me how to go within and harness my own powers, water my own seeds or is somewhat focused without, to me it's not the real message or it's useless. I'd rather the message that there's no one, no free will, nothing is happening and it's all a dream, nothing matters, you're already dead, all that you can't do anything with and is of no value to the individual, than a message telling me to look elsewhere other than within for anything on the Spiritual level.

I don't see an observation the same as a criticism. I.e. If I say, you're looking for hope when hope doesn't exist, or saying someone is in their ego, or saying you're missing the point about something, or highlighting something about a person to make a point or a suggestion. Those aren't criticisms to me but saying, 90% of the people on the forum are seeking relief and evasion, to me that's a criticism. Maybe I'm being biased, I'm not sure; but I try not to criticize people only point out things they're doing that I may disagree with but not from a trying to tell what to do stance but from just a having a discussion stance and point of view stance and also not try to compare what I do and talk down what they do. If you read my comments, they don't have an air of criticism to them and it's very rare I speak on what most people are on here doing and criticize people for what they do with their time and life and how they practice spirituality.

I think we're over using the phrase "high-value", or it means different things to different people.

Ok when you put it like that. But these guys seem to make it look as if she's screening for a provider and a protector and a CEO at every level, stage and situation in her life.

Exactly, as per my latest comment. It's like you're reading my mind.

We probably need to describe what high-value means, because I think that's where the discrepancy lies sometimes. Is a player high-value. Is a nice guy, a rich guy, a protector, a provider, a guy with a steady income, a business, has status, or what, what makes a guy high-value. I think it depends on the woman.

This is what I mean. A club hopping 20's ain't necessarily looking for high-value, just a cutie she feels hot for to get laid. Point is, not all the time the same woman is screening for high-value. It depends.

Noooooo, i think this is the trick. If this was the case, we'd all be happy and singing kumbaya. This high value talk is being overrated. Women and men sometimes aren't instinctively or thinking high value at all times, attraction is too spontaneous for that. "Non high-value" people are getting laid all the time, then people wake up. Oh he's hot, oh she's hot is getting people laid and then after that wears off, the high-value stuff kicks in and the evaluation kicks in and the logic kicks in and the thinking kicks in.....before that sometimes is just feelings and emotions and people acting out their primal instincts for sex.

Why are you guys so insisting that women are so screening for high-value. At a certain point in a female's life yes, but not all stages, she does this. It's not always about high-value. That's just oh so boring if a woman's entire sex life and love life she's screening for high value. She's not always. What's funny is guys will give women credit when it's about screening for high-value, but in other ways, we're emotional, feeling oriented, moody, playing games, deceptive, etc. Only when it comes to screening for high-value is when she becomes logical. That's a smart thing to do - screen for high value. Why not, it's in her best interest. I think what happens is men think women SHOULD go for high-value men themselves and now he thinks that's what she's doing in every little thing she does. It's instinctual, but only after a certain point in her life not when she's just looking to have fun.

That's true. The guy she really respects and likes is the nice guy. The player gets because she knows he won't stick around regardless, but she still wants to have sex. So, she uses him for her pleasure. The nice guy is the real treasure, but he cries because he wants to get used by her too. It's a silly game but that's life for ya'. Silly ole God playing silly games with itself for eternity,

I dunno, plenty of low-value men are getting laid.

OK. This is what happenes Don't have sex too quickly or he won't respect you, don't give it up too easily make him wait awhile, Men: She's easy and gave it up quickly, I didn't even have to work for it. Ilm bored with this pussy, gotta go hunt for a hot one. Women: Hi. Screens for status incase he leaves her impregnated. Men: She's playing games and won't give it up, she's being deceptive by protecting herself. Dunno, seems a bit chaotic. Why bother.

Had cats all my life, As we speak, she's currently sleeping. I know them very well. Women only play these games because they are trying to protect themselves,. Themselves from the games men themselves play.

You called it her playing games. She didn't. It's only deceptive to you, its real for her. You don't understand a woman receives and that shit can get closed up if she's not in receptive mode, Howls she being deceptive when it's the mind that's dictating the stories she believes.

Yes, but why say she's playing games. If it's survival it's not games to her. It's games to you when her survival hurts you.

Sure, because she feels he will play the game of "next". Still not games. It's how she protects herself. Give it up quick... she's easy, delay.,.she's playing games.....yeah games men invented.

Also, women may stop withholding when they're not labelled as easy or giving it up. You don't realize how women are being molded. That kitty kitty is very emotional and a bit touchy. It doesn't like to be used and abused and discarded so it withholds to protect itself; it's not intended games. It's how we nurture ourselves. Here kitty kitty, lol

Ever think she's just not that horny enough. Maybe a little foreplay to get that kitty kitty wet will make that withholding more "with holding".

Lol. Gotta do something, beats watching twerking on tik tok. Everywhere we go is people criticizing other people. No matter where. Notice? In church, in school, at work, the neighbors, on forums, everywhere, People on this forum are this, people on this forum are that. There's a clue somewhere in this repetitive cycle that humans do everywhere. Ever notice. If you were on Redditt, it would be the Reddit people who weren't opening up to this or that and were too much in the mind. So happens you're on Actualized forum, so it seems you're referring to actualized members in particular, Noooo, you're just a body repeating a script for noone. Hehe

No, you're the one. Nothing sad in what he said. You're recommending taking something over reading something - both are still outside of you trying to achieve something. You are in the realm of the ego, control, thinking you're separate and doing something. I don't need lsd to recognize that the egoic mind is clueless. Lost without hope cannot be the case, it only appears as that. Hope is in the future where nothing exists, so hope isn't needed. Hope is an illusion. What is is. No need for hope. NOW, is Hope. Hope is NOW,

Happy to hear. ❤️