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I don't know about this. What about mothers who abandoned their kids and still feel that special bond. Or people who aren't there anymore but you still feel close to them or even just meeting a stranger for the first time (e.g man/woman, but not limited to) and we feel a certain attraction. Instantaneous attraction, or even the opposite,

This is why I'm not very fond of men who live in the gym, have a ton of muscles, are too handsome (I mean like the model-type looking ones), wear too much nice fancy clothes and walk around like "hey, I'm attractive come and chase me". Ever seen the American Psycho movie, he's like a perfect example. Lol. Nothing wrong with trying to maintain your health, if you're already born handsome and wearing nice clothes, but I have a keen eye to detect the ones who are doing these things and expect the woman to chase after them because they're so attractive and feminine that it's gets to be a turn off. Give me that rugged construction worker type who ain't afraid to get his hands dirty and develop those muscles naturally and wears clothes that are not screaming I'm trying to impress you while still looking decent with a natural masculine body odor that I can rub my soft-luscious lips all over without that toxic overly, bearing toxic cologne smell that just stays in my hair all week. A nice very expensive cologne is probably fine but no drakkars please.

You have no idea what it means to be the prize when it comes to women and dating. It's pretty much just a figure of speech and nothing to do with an actual prize. Go read how @Emeraldexplained it because she explained it well. Her comment was to Dauntment.

This made me laugh so hard. The Universe is so illogical, it made room for the logical brain to figure out what it forgot to add in. It said, I'm tired right now so ill invent logical men to do the hard work and trying to figure out my madness and chaotic mind. Problem with this is, the logical brain is also a part of the chaotic mind so it's like a double whammy. I have no idea what I just said but its OK, logic will figure it out.😂

Hehe, had a good night's sleep. Thanks for asking. I see this thread is still going hot. Howls that logical brain of yours going. Lol

Phtt. Another demand-sounding comment about a woman's role in sex. Be available, have great sex, please me, look good, be attractive, take care of your appearance, help with things, be my sex slave. Ugg. How about thank you for choosing me and i promise to love, cherish and take care of you the best I know how. This is the problem when men keep chasing after any Ole woman just because she's a woman. Now she has to fit into your fantasies.

So well said, I probably don't even have to say anymore about this part of the discussion because I might do you a disservice.

I was reading through the comments and was not going to comment till I read them through, but I had to stop here. This is it. All that I'm reading from you here in this thread is logics. That's it, logics. Thought this yesterday but now I can verify by you saying it out your mouth. Logics. Basic logic does nothing when it comes to relations with women. You're not trying to compute a math equation. You sound so stoic and mechanical. No passion, sensitivity or feeling. Strictly logical. All in your masculine energy without compassion. Tap into your feminine energy a bit, it's a part of the equation. Relationships, sex and bonding isn't logics. Nothing wrong with being logical but tone it down a bit when it comes to the opposite sex and your relations with them. It doesn't work.

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Now I see how you arrived at your Avatar picture. Didn't make the comparison till now. Hehe. Thought you were just throwing up in the forum bathroom.

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Yellow is pretty high on the scale and I believe is right under turquoise. So a yellow shouldn't be the type to want or need anything in a relationship but rather be in it to share life experiences with. Not that any other stage doesn't do this but the difference is you're saying give what the person is looking for and what one wants. A perfect kind of relationship is where neither is wanting anything or looking for anything from their partner but companionship and then however they view that to be. Not what one is looking for and not what one wants from the other.

The type of man that has this mindset will carry over other personality traits in the relationship that has the same type of characteristics. If you're not the type of woman who wants to be with a man that sees you having sex with him as your payment for his so-called love or as a chore you do because that's how he feels loved, better beware and move on because this attitude will bleed over to other parts of the relationship. I feel a man who sees you having sex with him as him wanting to pleasing you because him pleasing you makes him feel good is a better candidate. I know men who didn't even cared if they came as long as the woman came, or would only do it if she wanted to, or will make sure she was comfortable doing whatever they were doing. These men were the same way in other parts of the relationship and the ones who treated it as you must show me your love by having sex with me type were terrible to deal with outside the bedroom.

I think what you mean by this and what I assume you meant by this is somewhere in between. I read it as you meant she should be at his beckon call. It seems you meant that she should be the type of woman who is willing to have sex with him and not just like a platonic-like relationship or to expect that he won't want sex from her. If that's what you meant, I apologize for my outburst because as a woman saying we should be available for sex when you want it just seems a bit psychotic if that's the right word, So, excuse me for my all caps and use of expletives.

You said be available for sex. That's not the same as two people in love wanting to share the art of having sex together. All the rest you said up there is just horseshit. That's to me and not limited to anyone else's ears. Don't take it personal. You are entitled to your beliefs and opinions, but it's just horseshit.

Hit the nail on the head here. Most guys who don't understand this are the ones that are like the ones you described above. This is why women who do this end up being left for the woman he can work for and provide for. Men need this dynamic to feel masculine.

I stopped reading here. WOMEN ARE NOT SEX FUCKING SLAVES. No one has to be sexually available, man or woman. People should be having sex if and when they choose to, end of story.

I just checked. It's him. Lol. Funny how us women can sense where a particular dating rhetoric comes from. We can tell because it doesn't sound true to the one saying it. Just like how a preacher has to shout at his congregation because he doesn't truly believe what he's preaching. You can tell the ones who listen to dating coaches and are just parroting them, not the true coaches but the ones coming from a place of hurt and revenge.

This just sounds like something I heard that man that's popular with guys who watch dating channels, I forgot his name, he's a doctor or phychologist. Sounds like his kind of rhetoric. What's ironic is the amount of guys on here who can't get enough of pick-up, cold-approaching talk, how to attract women, constantly asking for advice on dating and those that aren't have either given up or are working on themselves. Some even talk about moving to another city. Doesn't sound too much like replaceable and can get 10 more of the same and that you're the prize from what I gather that you're saying here.

This is not true. So not true. It may be believed to be so but when put to the test will fail. I'm not saying you don't believe what you're saying in your entire statement, but the relationship will not last nor will it be a healthy one. All you're saying is how you'd like for it to be but not what actually works. The only reason you'd like it to be how you're saying is because of past hurt or mistakes or for another reason but not because you have tested it to be the best type of relationship dynamic that you know to be healthy and long-lasting. I'm referring to your entire statements from this quote and not just this quote.

Yeah, I agree. While writing that, I wasn't sure that masculine was the word because they do have some feminine qualities but I just stuck with masculine to be on the safe side. The ones that came to mind, now that you're saying this I did notice them being comfortable in their feminine side. I didn't mean they reject a certain type of woman, they just aren't attracted from the jump. Not that every woman won't have a particular guy that will like her for her, but that each respectively will know which one that is.

@digitalkaineGlad to see you're doing much better and things are working out for you. I think what is happening now is, before you were fearful because you weren't doing well and you were depressed and saddened by that and now you've made drastic changes; but now the fear has emerged again but this time it's fear of losing what you have accomplished. The cycle never ends. Fear is fear no matter what is being feared. I suggest you don't listen to what the mind is saying, don't attach to it and just keep on keeping on. Don't even be concerned with Leo's comment, and I believe I do remember that, but it's irrelevant to you and your situation. None of what anybody says is relevant to your situation. Not even what I said and recommended. How? It was going to happen anyway. I don't take or not take credit; so neither should you be concerned with a comment that has nothing to do with you. It's just a comment. You can give it life the same way you gave life to what I suggested of you can ignore it. Either way, what will happen will happen. Have no fear either way and just keep on keeping on.

That's because you don't understand yourself and your relationship to them. It's not the women you don't understand it's how you are in relation to them that you don't understand. What I mean is, you know what relation you are with this forum. You start threads, makes comments, answer questions, browse categories etc.. You just don't know how to relate to them.

Men are too. Almost as much as women are especially the older ones. Also, nothing wrong with this, there are worse things to criticize the sexes about, if that's your style, than them worrying about their age. You say you like young women but you criticize women for trying to look young. You see, our own biases and hatred for certain things breeds the same.