Princess Arabia

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There's no room inside my head. My head is also made of nothing. I'm not in a room. The room is inside of me.

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As in Awareness?

The nothingness is Everywhere at all times and is in every thing. So, yes the nothingness is there in the field. You're asking me to point to the nothingness in the room, but you can't even locate or point to a room yourself. Whatever you point to will be an object in the room. How can nothing be pointed to, You cannot point to anything physical. What you'll be pointing to are parts of that physical thing. Keep pointing and deconstructing and you arrive at nothing. Everything is made of nothing. Go to the atoms. What are they made of. Scientists doesn't have an answer because there is nothing there. It's all mental structures.

How can you deactivate the energy of thought. Energy cannot be destroyed. That's also a thought trying to deactivate a thought. It's all energy. I know you didn't say destroy; but, to me, that's the same thing. How can you separate thought from the real thing. It's a part of it. It's like saying, let's separate the fire from the wood after the ash has been formed. The ash is a result of the fire and the wood. What remains after the fire burnt the wood is ash. Now you're trying to get back the fire and the wood from the ash. They are intertwined and became one. Seems like you're trying to do the impossible.

The Morning After I Killed Myself.....is beautiful.

Yes, but it exists for you right now, and you're experiencing time in a linear fashion. I don't see "no time", but I know there's no time. Telling the lady giving you a pedicure there's no time, why aren't you done is ludicrous, right.

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@HojoYou say this nothing isn't there. Then I say it is. Then you say point to it. Then I say point to me, then you say are you a room, then I say point to your room. Now you're stuck. I'm sure you see a room there, right. But can you point to it. No. So your logic about point to it just got debunked.

Ok, point to your room.

Point to me.

The nothingness is the room.

Yea, you're right. True and false perception doesn't matter, I was trying to make a distinction that it doesn't matter what he or I think in relation to commenting and responses and our perceptions of Reality in the relative sense. There is already no self it's a mental structure, like you said. Where is the mess. You already know it's a mental structure. You're not realizing it's the mental structure that's trying to get rid of the mental structure. That's what you're not getting.

You did the same thing I did, except I didn't use the word needn't be. That would be like me telling OP how to go about his life and how he should see it. My comment was suggesting ways to go about it and how I personally go about it, not telling OP he needn't do this or that and telling him in the way he described. From your comment, you're telling me I don't need to approach life the way I am approaching it, which I think is way different than suggesting ways to go about it and how I personally go about it.

@Thought ArtIf you notice my responses were my way of seeing things and not once did I suggest the other ways were wrong. I believe I still stuck to the essence of the thread and didn't veer off topic. I specifically stated I understood their pov, just to show I wasn't saying I was opposed to anything. I can only respond to how I view things and from what state of consciousness I experienced the question from. My opinion about holism is seeing things from the whole and that's equivalent to starting from the top down which is also seeing things from the whole before you chop it into pieces. So, I'm seeing it from the holistic pov its just it's holism at it's purest. I respect your constructive criticism and do understand where it's coming from, but please also take note that we are all at different levels of development on the relative scale and some of us will view things differently. I believe that as long as one is not aggressively opposing the other's way of looking at things and are also open to seeing things differently, then how that person expresses themselves, as long as it's within topic, there shouldn't be an attempt to correct or alter their response. My comment wasn't trying to alter the OP's perspectives, it was me simply expressing my own.

Nothing is there. It's exactly what allows for something to appear. Without nothing, there cannot be something. That something needs a contrast to be visible.

Nothing personal for me. I like you too. You bring a different flavor to the forum, just like everybody has their own unique flavor. I don't expect to agree with everyone and vice versa. That's the beauty of life. How boring it would be if we all agreed. Geesh, we would be pissing each other off on purpose just for the contrast. This is how I know that my perception isn't the right one and neither is yours or anyone else's, it's only true for us. If it were Universally true, everyone would perceive it the same way. That's the definition of Absolute Truth of which we are all expressions of. Understanding this allows for true Spiritual growth and understanding and for the recognition of what's actually true or is the case which is nowhere visible in what's appearing.

I understand your point of view. I like to work from the top down. I'm a simple kind of gal. We choose how we want life to go. I choose the simple way. Not saying it's not tough or hard, it's just it's in a more smoother tough and hard way. You can either use your fingernails to chop the wood or use a saw, I'll use the saw. In this case, i'm the wood that's already chopped while reversing the motions through the experience of watching the saw do the work. If that makes sense to you.

Coming from a schizo it's not harsh. I didn't even take it harshly. Coming from a sane person, now that's a different story. @Schizophonia

The problem is thinking it's a problem to begin with. No amount of solving a problem will solve the problem of problems. Notice after one gets solved another arises, even within that same "fixed" problem - another arises out of that. You get healthy, now you need to maintain that, you find a gf, now you have gf problems, you get a job, now you have work related problems, you buy a car, now you have car problems, you get plenty of sex, now you have sex problems, you solve being lonely, now you have people problems. The thing is to not see problems. Life is life and things are happening. You only need to fix that chair or that broken table. Life is happening in succession; one thing after the next, after the next, after the next. Respond accordingly and see the world as one big happening. The very notion that there are problems and that there's something to fix is what's creating the problem. Note: I'm not saying there aren't challenges. All i'm saying is calling them problems is a cycle that will never end and one solved only creates new ones within the circle. Just see life as something to live not problems to be solved. There-in lies internal peace.

Awesome, huh. See, you're choosing what you want to agree with and what not to. You're the trickster of the Universe. That's why you put that clown emojii just now. The signs are everywhere, you trickster you. I won't start that shit today, though. Enough already, hehe.

That's what you think. That's why suffering occurs. That's why confusion arises. That's why we feel like victims. It's the exact same reason why it's possible to construct a world. It appears that way but in actuality, there's no Reality apart from you. Show me where the separation is where there's a you and there's a reality and where there's a you in reality. There's none. It's the mind that makes the distinction and it's got you by the balls, like I said.

Hehe. You're right about that. We balance out the normal so now we're perfect. So there😛

Guys will say all the time, you're a female so you can't understand and blah blah. I don't know the physicality part and what it's like to have a penis or hair on the chest and a mustache, etc; but what they're failing to see is that I'm on the receiving end of the emotions and the mental stuff and as a very observant person by nature, I notice things. I know the importance of observation in respect to how I respond and also when I'm feeling things and why. It's called being curios about life.