Princess Arabia

I think we're over using the phrase "high-value", or it means different things to different people.

Ok when you put it like that. But these guys seem to make it look as if she's screening for a provider and a protector and a CEO at every level, stage and situation in her life.

Exactly, as per my latest comment. It's like you're reading my mind.

We probably need to describe what high-value means, because I think that's where the discrepancy lies sometimes. Is a player high-value. Is a nice guy, a rich guy, a protector, a provider, a guy with a steady income, a business, has status, or what, what makes a guy high-value. I think it depends on the woman.

This is what I mean. A club hopping 20's ain't necessarily looking for high-value, just a cutie she feels hot for to get laid. Point is, not all the time the same woman is screening for high-value. It depends.

Noooooo, i think this is the trick. If this was the case, we'd all be happy and singing kumbaya. This high value talk is being overrated. Women and men sometimes aren't instinctively or thinking high value at all times, attraction is too spontaneous for that. "Non high-value" people are getting laid all the time, then people wake up. Oh he's hot, oh she's hot is getting people laid and then after that wears off, the high-value stuff kicks in and the evaluation kicks in and the logic kicks in and the thinking kicks in.....before that sometimes is just feelings and emotions and people acting out their primal instincts for sex.

Why are you guys so insisting that women are so screening for high-value. At a certain point in a female's life yes, but not all stages, she does this. It's not always about high-value. That's just oh so boring if a woman's entire sex life and love life she's screening for high value. She's not always. What's funny is guys will give women credit when it's about screening for high-value, but in other ways, we're emotional, feeling oriented, moody, playing games, deceptive, etc. Only when it comes to screening for high-value is when she becomes logical. That's a smart thing to do - screen for high value. Why not, it's in her best interest. I think what happens is men think women SHOULD go for high-value men themselves and now he thinks that's what she's doing in every little thing she does. It's instinctual, but only after a certain point in her life not when she's just looking to have fun.

That's true. The guy she really respects and likes is the nice guy. The player gets because she knows he won't stick around regardless, but she still wants to have sex. So, she uses him for her pleasure. The nice guy is the real treasure, but he cries because he wants to get used by her too. It's a silly game but that's life for ya'. Silly ole God playing silly games with itself for eternity,

I dunno, plenty of low-value men are getting laid.

OK. This is what happenes Don't have sex too quickly or he won't respect you, don't give it up too easily make him wait awhile, Men: She's easy and gave it up quickly, I didn't even have to work for it. Ilm bored with this pussy, gotta go hunt for a hot one. Women: Hi. Screens for status incase he leaves her impregnated. Men: She's playing games and won't give it up, she's being deceptive by protecting herself. Dunno, seems a bit chaotic. Why bother.

Had cats all my life, As we speak, she's currently sleeping. I know them very well. Women only play these games because they are trying to protect themselves,. Themselves from the games men themselves play.

You called it her playing games. She didn't. It's only deceptive to you, its real for her. You don't understand a woman receives and that shit can get closed up if she's not in receptive mode, Howls she being deceptive when it's the mind that's dictating the stories she believes.

Yes, but why say she's playing games. If it's survival it's not games to her. It's games to you when her survival hurts you.

Sure, because she feels he will play the game of "next". Still not games. It's how she protects herself. Give it up quick... she's easy, delay.,.she's playing games.....yeah games men invented.

Also, women may stop withholding when they're not labelled as easy or giving it up. You don't realize how women are being molded. That kitty kitty is very emotional and a bit touchy. It doesn't like to be used and abused and discarded so it withholds to protect itself; it's not intended games. It's how we nurture ourselves. Here kitty kitty, lol

Ever think she's just not that horny enough. Maybe a little foreplay to get that kitty kitty wet will make that withholding more "with holding".

Lol. Gotta do something, beats watching twerking on tik tok. Everywhere we go is people criticizing other people. No matter where. Notice? In church, in school, at work, the neighbors, on forums, everywhere, People on this forum are this, people on this forum are that. There's a clue somewhere in this repetitive cycle that humans do everywhere. Ever notice. If you were on Redditt, it would be the Reddit people who weren't opening up to this or that and were too much in the mind. So happens you're on Actualized forum, so it seems you're referring to actualized members in particular, Noooo, you're just a body repeating a script for noone. Hehe

No, you're the one. Nothing sad in what he said. You're recommending taking something over reading something - both are still outside of you trying to achieve something. You are in the realm of the ego, control, thinking you're separate and doing something. I don't need lsd to recognize that the egoic mind is clueless. Lost without hope cannot be the case, it only appears as that. Hope is in the future where nothing exists, so hope isn't needed. Hope is an illusion. What is is. No need for hope. NOW, is Hope. Hope is NOW,

Happy to hear. ❤️

This is what Cardozzo said "You are overreacting too much for a guy who has dating/intersexual dynamics under control. Your views are appreciated but don't try to boss around with your intellectual superiority complex" Your response: "Actually incase you couldn't tell, I am mirroring them, except I am being authentic about it. Lol". All verbatim Then he went on to tell you what and how we should be looking at around this issue, then you told him respectfully what you thought. No need to quote it all. It was a very respectable conversation on your part after he chewed you up. @bambi Total different tone when you speak to us women then when you speak to the males here. I've noticed this before, but felt like pointing it out today as I see you're picking on @Emeraldand @Etherial Cat. Seems as if you only have strenght for females. This is all im going to say on this issue. Just wanted to point something out that I feel is very important to point out. I will not sit around and see a certain member only speak to females a certain way and not his male counterparts. Not advocating for anyone to speak disrespectfully to anyone but it doesn't gets checked as the females do and we are penalized for sticking up for ourselves.

Not true. Plenty have welcomed her advice and no one has a problem but you. You have spoken down to @Emerald Etherial Cat and to myself. I have seen Cardozzo practically reprimanded you here in this thread, and you didn't respond negatively or in the same tone you do with us ladies. Anyone can look it up. I'm responding here because my name was mentioned, but it is a trend with you that seems to only talk down to the females here.

Romance is not the issue. He just said men have figured out what women are attracted to and use this to get laid. Nothing about how the woman wanted to get laid as well as if men are tricky women left and right to get laid. To me that insinuates that women are easily tricked and easy to take advantage of and we don't like to hear that hard truth. Very condescending of women and their abilities to decide for themselves if they want to have sex or not without being tricked by men who figured out what we're attracted to. This is why the women here on the forum object because it's simply not the general case. Women don't always want romance from men. Sometimes we just want to fuck just like men it's just it takes more than muscles and a hairy chest and the sexual chemistry is needed.

By the time the week is done, it's time to prep again, so no one is saying to eat foods that has been laying around for a week. Salads can be cold, a microwave or oven can be used to heat up and foods don't have to be prepared all the way as in a big batch of rice for the week and prep veggies and sautee as needed. Listen, there are ways and that's why there are coaches to help people or advice on forums to give and life goes on. Resources are plentiful and so are excuses.

Ok so you. This is not everybody. Topics like these are not general and everyone's life is different. There are people who only work out half an hr day. Some work from home. Some use a treadmill at home while on the computer. Some only eat raw foods, some only eat lightly and foods are 10/15mins to prepare. Some.......i mean this topic is highly customizable and it's not one size fits all. No sense in us going on and on about our individual lives on the topic because that doesn't prove these things aren't doable.

That wasn't my point. The same time and energy it takes to order Chinese is the same time and energy it takes to order a Greek salad.