Princess Arabia

I think a right balance here is key; not swaying too much either way.

Well said and I agree.

Make-up has been around for centuries. Most women don't put on make-up for just that reason. Make-up for the feminine is more about an accentuation. To enhance. Accessorize. Like wearing jewelry, to complement. Lots of people do lots of things to feel better about themselves. There's a difference between enhancing one's appearance to lift one's mood or spirits and compensating with something because one doesn't feel good about themselves. Plenty of women who already feel good about themselves wear make-up. What you said is also true, but it's not the sole reason and for most females it's just another accessory and a way to express via art. It can enhance ones features and can make you feel better, sure; but not necessarily because one was lacking in that department initially.

I don't know what i am.

And men are liars.....now what. One woman did this and you make a post saying women are deceptive. How cringe. I've been lied to..... Ok I'll start a thread saying men are liars. How silly. The government is deceptive, lawyers are deceptive, kids are deceptive.....and the opposite is also the case.

Good info.

I've never heard of that. My understanding and education on cilantro, says they remove toxic and heavy metals. Nothing I can say for sure as I've not done any formal studies on such, but I've listened to experts on the matter. That said, the vitamins you've recommended has in the ingredients "cellulose" which is another word for wood pulp and is harmful to the body. Ice-cream and lots of other conventional toxic packaged products on the market and many toxic supplements do have this toxic ingredient and i do not recommend and have also gotten that from the experts. All I've said are only recommendations and have not been approved by the FDA so take cautionary measures as I'm not an expert on such matters.

I apologize for using the word hate in the same conversation and thread we were having. It wasn't necessarily meant for you and your expressions, which I stated before when I said "I'll give you that". I was generalizing. My apologies again, because I should have expected you to take it as my referring to you.

I never once attacked. I'll leave this thread now as he seems to often times come where I'm at to throw personal punches. Happens more than enough times where it's starting to seem personal and for no doing of mine.

Anyone with any reasonable sense who looks back at the whole conversation can see that I wasn't being provocative, attacking, judgemental not criticizing. Only making assumptions, stating opinions and expressing how I felt about the topic, in very rational, respectful ways. Never once did I attack, nor mace judgements only observations and personal opinions. Goodbye

The dictionary describes "provocative dressing" as: Quote "Intended to make someone feel sexual desire". I'm not sure how a suit and vest accomplishes this. Anyway, since you're in attack mode, I'll just exit this conversation and leave you to marinate in your own attacks and let you bask in that release of tension you just had to let go on me as per usual in your communications with me.

Sweetheart, all you do is attack me all the time and i never attacked back once. Whose the one that seems traumatized. I'm barely stating my opinions in herd and all i get from you constantly are attacks, with not once me attacking back. How does what I'm saying here makes me seem abused. I'm not sure, but no i haven't been abused nor do I have any sexual trauma. It's ok though, go ahead and attack, doesn't phase me. I've recognized where that cones from and I've seen no need to attack back.

how is a suit and vest, styling hair doing Botox and plucking eyebrows provocatively dressed. The pastor wears a suit is he provocatively dressed. The librarian in a long dress and covered from the neck down may pluck her eyebrows because they are too bushy, how is that provocatively dressed.

I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you speaking about this thread in particular or the forum in general.

how does a man provocatively dress to attract women. I'm not being defensive, I'm opening up your minds to other possibilities.

I'm not struggling to acknowledge anything. We tend to project, and because we notice people that dresses provocatively, we assume they're seeking attention. I assume people with green hair are seeking attention, do I say it or project it, no because I'm aware that's just my mind assuming and may not be the case and I leave it at that. This is why guys tend to want to call at every provocatively dressed woman because they assume she's seeking attention when she could just enjoy dressing that way because it makes her feel a certain way.

Why is always that one is seeking attention who dresses provocatively. That's not necessarily the case. They might just enjoy dressing that way just like how they might prefer apples to oranges. Personal choice.

You have strayed from the issue at hand. No need to walk around naked to have self-expression in clothing. Yoga pants are pants. They are fitting. That's it. Anything else is thought.

Please stick to the issue at hand. I never said to let people do whatever they want. Yes, I'll give you that that you never mentioned the word hate; that's my doing. I'm simply stating opinions and beliefs not suggesting that anyone is trying to suppress me. I didn't take this convo personally. It's a forum and I'm discussing. I don't even wear yoga pants and I don't dress scantily not even when I'm working. Don't need to.

Freedom from what - your own mind. Freedom from the thoughts we entertain. Thoughts about the world. Your world. There is no other. Yes, we need rules and regulations not talking about that, everything else is our own doing. Mentally.

This isn't the problem. The hating on the women for doing this and blaming them for it is even worse.

They hate on hookers, they hate on beautiful/ugly women, hate on insta models, hate on models, call them dumb, hate on fa* women, they don't want them, hate on other men because they get all the women, hate on porn, hate on women that reject them, hate on women that are too forward, hate on yoga pants, hate on cleavage, hate on mothers, sisters, daughters, uncles, friends, lovers, gfs, gays, bi-s, trans,......we hate everything even ourselves; then we say God is love. This is hilarious. And we try to make sense of the nonsense.....don't get me started. Lol

Had to look up what a burka (burqa) was. I don't pay attention to what doesn't tickle my fancy. Different strokes for different folks. Who cares only the one that does. Neither are bothering me.

Maybe to you, but not the Millions who wear them nor the manufacturer that makes the millions. Lots of things looks or seems foolish that doesn't create a stir, but yoga pants do...i wonder why. We have a Spiritual practice called Yoga and we encourage this practice but not the pants that makes the practice comfortable. The comfortable yoga pants are foolish.

Tell me something that isn't. It's the knowledge that we attained that made us believe there's a truth to seek. Baby is born - knows nothing - acquires knowledge-I am here, boom separation. That's the start of the seeming ignorance of separation. Truth is here now, that which is the case, what's appearing. Everything else are stories and imagination. Ignorance of truth is a concept. Even if someone's lying that's truth. Truth cannot be escaped. It is what appears, nothing else exists. Knowledge isn't needed for truth. Truth cannot be known only lived. Life is Truth and life is living every ,moment is fresh and new. Thats truth.