Princess Arabia

There's no one to awaken, because who would know they're awaken. That "me" right. So, that me would still be present to know it's awakened. DON'T YOU SEE THE TRICK. Can't you see through the shit. It's a scam. Existential scam like how Trump is a scam, lol. The "me" invented awakening and enlightenment to try to kill or dissolve itself and everybody fell for it. THERE'S NO ONE TO AWAKEN. It's like me waking your body up from sleep and telling you there's no body there. It's laughable. Not a popular message, but laughable. Don't care what anybody says. Anybody that says any different, ask them how the hell they know they're enlightened. Answer: The illusory "me" told them. Awakening is a bit different as one can awaken to what I'm saying but there's still a "me" there unless it has truly fallen away and recognizes it was never there to begin with and so no one really awakened.

Well, do you get conceptually that all you're saying is bullcrap, hehe, (humor there), and that your feelings are arising from a false sense of knowing and to not take it personally and to laugh about it and no need to write posts about it and no need to whither in self-pity and self- doubt and self-whatever and that if you do, it's madness, insanity, neurosis and that that's all OK because that's the only way reality can exist for you and your neurotic self and that you really don't want freedom/awakening/enlightenment/liberation because all that would kill you as the person you think you are.

I get this and I get all you're saying........BUT....Experience and knowing are illusions. They don't go hand in hand. What you experience you are one with, there's no separation between you and what you're experiencing. Take you away, there's no experience, you cannot experience it if you're not there. That's the whole thing you and your experiences are one. So, how can you know it. That puts you outside of the experience. You can't know it either - but only as an hallucination/dream/illusion/ or whatever the word is. Do you see how I'm deconstructing what you think is real, or maybe not. Break it down. Knowledge is separation, you cannot know anything because there's no actual separation. So saying "you can't know it unless you experience it" isn't actually accurate either but only within the realms of separation and there isn't any. P.S. Please note that I'm not saying there's no apparent separation and that we don't live in separation as individuals because I do too. I will also say I know this experience and experience is key etc, but for the purpose of clarity (of which there's none either because there cannot be in wholeness), I'm trying to show you that it's all illusion you're experiencing and not actual. So youre right, I cannot know but neither can you. This is why it's said reality is a dream. Reality is real, but how we experience it is dreamlike.

Ok. I hope you're recognizing the changes in states and how you're perceiving reality in fluxes. You're not going through depersonalization; it's only apparent because there's no actual person there already. "I feel this severe disconnect from myself" is not a disconnection or you wouldn't be able to recognize it as such. You are still connected to the feeling of a "self" to be able to say you're disconnected from self. Hope that's clear. What you're talking about is "you" and a "self" - "my" and "self" implies that. We use those terms with life to communicate and be able to construct our egos identification with a self, but for the purpose of trying to point out something to you, there's no validity to your statement in actuality, because there's no myself to be disconnected from. If I say my cat, my purse, my car, how am I saying I'm disconnected at the same time. It's either they're mine or they're not. That's a mouthful, but I hope you understand what I'm saying. You're feeling disconnected but it's not really the case, you've attached yourself to the feeling and have mentally detached from what's actual.

Ok, then I get your point. I didn't do anything intentional. My interpretation was probably because I didn't fully grasp what you were saying or meant. From the mental perspective, I agree that we are constricted and that there is resistance. From what you are saying, I can say I'm more inclined to think we're referring to the same thing - without going back to your original comment, but from what you're saying here.

So, why do you want to die and why are you depressed.

This is what I'm talking about, precisely.

She didn't feel the same way. She felt loved when you were giving and she was there indirectly giving back. It's call about how one feels. You probably tainted your masculinity from some information you consumed and that made you started feeling used or that she needed to do or give more. A masculine man usually feels good when giving and when it's received with joy, love and appreciation, not by expecting anything else materially as much. She left because she felt you didn't love her anymore. The giving was a form of communication on your part and when it stopped a little, she didn't feel loved anymore. You said 80/20, so she was physically giving somewhat. But the majority of her giving was indirect because giving is receiving and as long as she was loving you back internally and appreciated you with all her heart, that should have been enough for you to feel her love and received her too. It goes both ways. P.S. I'm not saying the only way for a man to love is by giving a woman material things, it's just another way that women can feel loved and since men aren't usually verbal and emotional with these things, a woman can feel it in these ways, if given from the heart. Giving from the heart changed somewhere along the line with you and it broke that communication bond.

There's no such thing as a proper awakening. It's either it's awake or it's not. The body says, I'm already awake, even during sleep. The heart still beats, right. So, the mind can keep saying it's asleep, the body doesn't care. It keeps on keeping on.....until it doesn't....but it never really was but only as an appearance. When it "dies", it will appear as a corpse - still alive. There's nothing but aliveness. That corpse will then appear as something else, idk maybe maggots and a skeleton. Still alive.

I agree with what you're saying to a degree, but I disagree with this. Unhappiness and suffering will still be it's just one doesn't care if it is or not and will not try to change anything for the betterment of the egoic structure.

Nobody seems to mention this when these topics arise but I will set the record straight. The body doesn't care about your awakening and enlightenment. It will act out. It will not want to talk to others and see the world as an enemy. It will throw temper tantrums and shit on walls. It will want to go in a corner and not come out because of what the mind has put it through. When the body thirsts, it grabs for some liquid to quench. Hungry, it eats, needs to pee it pees, burps, yawns, sneezes etc. It has grown accustomed to interacting with people normally and going about daily life. When one starts to interfere with existential matters like awakening and enlightenment it's not used to that shit. The egoic mind wants to come back to homeostasis and wants to be separate and different. It wants to construct and develop not be dead. It wants to live, not die. So the body acts out because the embodiment is so strong and the connection felt deeply, as in this is my body so the body/mind coherence is thrown off balance. Wow, I'm God, no you're not, you better keep on surviving and building your house made of cards is what the ego says. Anyway, without digging too deep, you're not doing any of that the body is, and that's why we go through these changes. The body doesn't care about your awakening, it just wants to survive and will go haywire when the mind does a 360 loop, it gets confused. The body is already awake and there's nothing but now or presence and so-called enlightenment is already the case. It doesn't need your made up construction of it.

No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying why are you chasing happiness. Circumstances in life comes, goes, changes and are spontaneous. If one is only happy from outside stimuli, it's like gambling; you never know the outcome. It's OK to want to be happy, but why not just be happy when the time comes; when something makes you happy in the moment. The opposite too. Why not embrace the sadness. They don't last long. Only if one hold on to the thoughts. Positive and negative exists. Trying to be positive all the time will set you up for failure. It will never happen. Seeing things for what they are is king, as in your words. If something happens that makes you feel happy, fine. If something happens that makes you feel sad, fine. No need for therapy to try to right the negative. It passes. See it for what it is. You don't even remember last year this time what made you happy or sad. It's like the wind it comes and goes. It's best to not try to feel good all the time. It's best to just let what happens, happens and whatever feelings arises arise. That's what life is about. So what. No one wants to feel sad, but you will lose that battle eventually. You don't have to think positively or negatively, just feel the sadness or happiness and every other emotion in between and don't judge it or see ANYTHING WRONG (unless it's causing you or others harm as in anger or jealousy and you're acting out), other than that just let it be. Neutrality is what's behind the scenes and everything arises from that and will go back to that if you don't stir the pebbles. They all go back anyway but they linger less if you just let it be. You're not in control of that but the energetic response is; and because you claim everything as yours, (my happiness, my anger, my sadness, etc) you will feel less or more depending on how the energy responds to itself.

Reality cannot be understood.

Nice try, but there's no me nor any God that's imagining me. The illusion is the me; there's none only a body that appears outta nowhere and nothing, like everything else..

Ok. I guess God is also an illusion.

We tend to want things a certain way or have in our minds ideas about how life should be VS how it is. When it doesn't turn out the way we think it should, we get depressed or anxious about it and create all sorts of tug and war frictions within ourselves. It's rampant and we all do this to a certain degree but some more than others. I see how we are able to create a world from all these ways of being and how the timelines just keep getting constructed and constructed over and over again. We identify something as a problem. We try to fix it. Society already has in place the resources to go to for these infinite problems. I'm referring to the more psychological ones, not how to fix a car. Then those resources e,g therapists, coaches, books etc gives one a place in society and for people to look to to fix their problems they created by thinking it's a problem to begin with. They call it problematic because they don't like the way it makes them feel. All needs to be done, is allow for the feeling to be there and realize it's a part of life. Maybe by supper time, the feeling will be gone. Seeing it as a problem, and the storyline attached to the feeling is how the construction gets started and now we need to hire and bring in the help needed to help build on it. It's amazing to watch how human behavior is and how the individual is kind of creating their life story without them realizing how their doing this. One might say they don't like how they react to a certain situation but instead of just seeing it for what it is and moving on, they want to try and fix themselves so they don't react that way again so they won't have those feelings because it brought them shame or guilt or they felt a way that wasn't welcomed. Now, the goal is to find a therapist or aide of some kind that can help identify the problem by a made-up name that we invented and try to find a solution to a made-up problem. It's mind-blowing to me when I see how the world recreates itself through this human dilemma of problem solving and how it seems to be the driving force for this so-called contraction of energies that have believed itself to be someone with a life and a life that needs to be a certain way. I'm not exempt from this either even though with me, it's not as rampant because I don't tend to make too many issues a problem. I am not chasing certain feelings and whatever feelings arises, arises. No need to try and fix myself to feel a certain way over another way. I don't see life as this is wrong or bad but different. Obviously not speaking about crimes or things that are obviously not accepted when living amongst others.

Well, yeah, this makes sense and I didn't think of that. There wouldn't be that many if they weren't being bred for food and consumption.

Thoughts are not an illusion. Thoughts are just that, thoughts. They appear and disappear just like everything else. The illusion is the one thinking it's thinking thoughts. There's no one thinking thoughts. Thoughts are arising and subsiding on their own.

She says trillions of animals gets abused, tortured and murdered each year. If they weren't used as food then that leaves trillions and trillions and trillions x ten more animals in the world to feed, maintain and looked after. Idk, I don't buy into this stuff. I think they could be a bit more humane in how they treat the animals but rearing them for food should be ok. People have healthy chickens in their yards for food but they still slit their throats when it's time to eat them. There are way more animals than people and these animals still need to be fed and most cannot feed themselves. There's work, time and energy that has to be put into raising farm animals.

Her shirt reads "eat pussy, not animals". What is a cat but an animal. Hehe.

Lol

That's an illusion, and nothing is really veiled. The illusory person is the veil. How can there be spiritual work to unveil something that's not really happening. You're better off trying to build a house. You keep saying things are difficult. You're like an illusion trying to break an illusion but the illusion isn't really there. Take yourself out the equation and everything is already unveiled.

The only reason why it's difficult is because it cannot be done and nothing can change what already is. Keep trying though, and maybe you'll tire of trying. There's no one to be open to anything. All there is is emptiness appearing. It's appearing as you trying to be open to nothing and saying it's difficult.

Doesn't matter. I'm not loving how she looks because it is natural and without surgery or botox or whatever. I'm simply just loving her look. That's it. I don't care about what she did or didn't do to look like that. I'm just loving her look as it is now; not the story behind it. Don't care. Irrelevant.

Nice. I like this. (except for the term 'grow up') but it doesn't matter. It doesn't take away the essence of the message. Grown ups can still not recognize this. Anyway, nicely put.