No-Thing

I'm missing the joker archetype here ;-)

staying in the heart space

@Leo Gura I feel you! I also struggle from some chronic issues that I don't even have a name for. Here is what brings me relieve from chronic fatigue: Coffee enemas (have you tried them?) Ashwagandha Cold showering (completely surrending while praying for example) Fitness (pushing myself beyond my comfort zone, it works on mental + physical levels) Take care!

suicidal depression lack of motivation fear of loss (pain of being unworthy)

Here is a talk by Ram Dass check out especially the last 2 parts. "When we (I) are all enlightened there is no universe anymore because there is no desire and the universe is created out of desire/love but at that point it doesn't matter because nothing is desired by no one" If you want to know god and stay there all desires must go even the desire to know god

Nice way of putting it. I also felt his perspective and I do get it. This is very confusing and painful to the mind and being safed by Jesus seems like a good option.

I read your new text on the blog! I liked it. Reminded me of https://highexistence.com/mind-blowing-story-talking-to-god/ But isn't this voice not just another party of yourself. So you were talking to yourself :-)

I hope it turned you on :-*

@Rilles Nothing bad about that. I said in a way of "look at the stars and look at this formation of stars" and then you assumed what you assumed. And I am currently lying to you.

It's good to face opposing perspectives to check how grounded you are in your own truth. It also shows you where your ego still lies hidden. If you watch this video and feel anger or resistance within you, it shows that you still have an ego around meditation or leo's teachings as such. Otherwise I'd like to hear your ideas on his perspective. Enjoy!

@Leo Gura Looking forward to your (our) integration process. Through sharing content we are already linking up our minds but I sense there is a deeper link to be made where the whole system of a group of people or species is vibrating at the same frequency. Are you planning to meet groups in physical form? If you allow me feedback on one aspect of your sharing. There have been a couple of moments where you shared something and clearly strongly felt in the moment what you were sharing. These moments often have a greater impact than creating mental constructs. I feel the more capable we are to feel a sensation or emotion while speaking, to communicate a message not only on the intellectual side but also the body side, the more powerful of a communicator we become and the greater the capability to connect with people through sharing body sensations.

Leo recently shared this video on his blog: I watched the first half of the video and my seeking voice flared up saying, "I need more psychedelic experiences, I need to go deeper". The second half of the video struck a very different chord in me. In most spiritual seekers there is a deep yearning to transcend this world, to go back to the source. It's the first spiritual movement, it's what adyashanti calls "up and out". It's the recognition of your divine nature. The second movement, "down and in". Is the integration of this recognition into your current physical form. What I want to bring to you through this post, a realisation that Christopher Bache also shares in this video, is that the point of this physical life is not to transcend it but to integrate the transcendence in your current form. In his blog post Leo mentions the 70+ trips and depth of this mans experience and compares it to his pursuit. When Christopher Bache talked about his trips, it was something very interesting to my mind and it even reactivated my seeking energy. But now after finishing the second half, what I am left with is a sweet energy of a loving and tender being. Maybe we can have a discussion about this here: Transcendence vs Integration Even though Leo has probably gone further than 99,999% of all human beings in terms of transcendence, I would still say someone who integrated divine loving energy even without these experiences is further on the spiritual path than him. (So maybe you don't need push the envelope as far as you thought, and rather work on anchoring stillness and love in your everyday experience)

Here are my favorite ones:

In the video the guy stated "the voices in my head were convincing me that whatever I was thinking is the new truth but I was able to be sober enough to remember that I was on salvia". Here is where the misconception lies. He has this idea of what is truth, like he is this man in this world taking salvia and entering the salvia space. But in actuality neither the salvia space nor the current apparent reality is true. If you take something like salvia you come to realize that an altered state of being feels just as real as your current state of being, so you start questioning your current reality. That realization still has nothing to do with enlightenment. The path of enlightenment is the path of stopping to react to the dream as if it was real. Every thought and every sensation needs to be seen through as illusion. ultimately you reach the primordial thought/sensation "I AM", which also also has to be seen as illusion. Then you collapse back into who you actually are and truth is realized. The problem is that the substance of what you currently think you are is the reaction to the dream so how can reaction stop reacting? As a sidenote. If you have an interest of exploring psychedelics, then that is an interest in the mind which is the opposite direction of enlightenment. For absolute rest all interests need to come to rest. (I'm still full of shit for writing in this forum thinking there is anyone out there needing my advice. Just an old pattern )