Let’s be honest, it wasn’t a good performance. He came off as stressed out, talking too fast, lacking in spontaneity and trying a bit too hard.
Ironically he himself came off as defensive right off the bat, assuming the listeners are too dense to understand anything, which they well might be, but it’s not a healthy/open space to come from. This disrupts his energy/presence/flow/authenticity.
I understand there was little time. But instead of trying very hard, in a mechanical way, to compress all his stuff as much as possible, I think, ideally, he should let go, relax, and let the conversation simply go wherever it goes. Let go of the need for people to understand. The bird on the branch sings it song even when nobody’s listening.
Energetically, it was too much about Leo, and too little about God. But I’m sure that all in all, this experience ends up being humbling.
All in all, ‘getting out of his basement’, stepping on a new stage and interacting with humans, getting out of his comfort zone is good for his growth. I’m sure things will improve over time.
*This is not at attack on Leo, just my observations/constructive criticism. 
 
 

Hi all, i am looking forward to learn more about jung and shadow work!
Are there any books on the topic that you would raccomend for newbies like me?
Possibly free pdf's... 
Also, i would be happy if you guys know some youtubers or people like that, who explain those sorts of things!
Thank you
 
-Arlin

@ActualizedDavid
There are various types of therapy. Top-down therapy (the kind of therapy you do with a psycologist), bottom-up therapy (where you work on your deep emotions). There is psychoanalysis, cognitive behavioral therapy, transpersonal therapy, psychodynamic psychotherapy, shadow work, therapy focused on CPTSD, positive psychology, hypnosis, NLP, and so on.
I don't have read a lot of books on them, but I found some that have helped me greatly. These books are not "academic", they are written in a "commercial" style, but still they are very valuable:
Teal Swan - The Completion Process (a mix of psychoanalysis, shadow work, CPTSD therapy) (I found it extremely powerful) Debbie Ford - The Dark Side of the Light Chasers (shadow work) (IMO, a little mild) Martin Seligman - Learned Optimism (positive psychology) I'm also planning to read more in-depth books in order to learn more, such as:
Benjamin Smith, Lorna Smith - Interpersonal reconstructive therapy for anger, anxiety, and depression Jeremiah Abrams - Meeting the Shadow Jonathan Baylin, Petra Winnette - Working with Traumatic Memories to Heal Adults with Unresolved Childhood Trauma Martha B. Straus - Treating Trauma in Adolescents - Development, Attachment, and the Therapeutic Relationship Michael Orlans, Terry M. Levy - Attachment, Trauma, and Healing - Understanding and Treating Attachment Disorder in Children, Families and Adults Also, Freud, Jung, Rogers, Adler, Maslow have contributed enormously in the development of therapy.

Nowadays, there is literally 1000s of Non-Duality books out there, so I wondered what are the ones that really made it 'click' for you? 
Mine are: 
Eckhart Tolle- The Power Of Now- Must've listened to it 50-100 times between the ages of 16-18, was my first introduction to it all. A new Earth is pretty good too. 
1000 & 'No Mind, No Problem' by Ramaji- Cleared up so much for me, No Mind, No Self & the natural pure awareness meditation inside the book is Gold, and I've spoken about 1000 on here enough lmao. 
Intimacy With The Infinite- Ananda Devi- A staggering story of how much awakening can drastically change your life, but shows following & Living Truth always pays off in the end, I am biased as Ananda is / was my teacher! 
Rupert Spira- The Art Of Peace & Happiness- Such a great book & articulate writer. However, I feel sometimes, he ever so slightly overcomplicates the language which can be confusing for newbies. However, him & Francis Lucille's Inward & Outward (Tantric) paths I found particularly useful in contrast to just traditional Advaita alone. 
 
Hoping to add @Nahm's book to this list soon  
 

There are flashcards apps that use spaced repetition. You create your own words list on google spreadsheets and download them to the app. I’ve used flashcards deluxe. No typing, just say the English word out loud after viewing the native word, and check your answer by clicking the word. I think those are the best. Google them.
I watched this video and copied some of his methods to learn spanish pretty fast: 
Just do what he did but for English, although you don’t have to do it all.
in the end you can’t be lazy. Devote at least an hour of undistracted study at a desk each day, the more you do, the faster you learn.

I know theres more... I need some help, what other kinds of systems are there? I know there is the solar system too but it doesnt interest very much since its outside of the planet. 
If you want to blow your own mind, consider how all of these influence eachother. 
Societal
•The healthcare system
•The body system
•The education system
•The political system
•The economic system
•The financial system
•The media system
•Scientific system

•Religious system
•The ecological system
•The legal system
•The transportation system
•Communication systems
•Immigration system
•Energy system
•Feudal system
•Patriarchal System
•Caste system
•International trade system
 
Abstract Systems
•Belief system
•Language as a system
•Psychological system
•Value system
•Family system
•Moral system 

I stumbled upon this nugget of gold right here, his story is inspiring and moved me to tears. Integrity, creative work for the greater good, it's all here:
And to complement it:
 

Why Concentration is Not Enough? - Attention & Awareness Dynamic Explained
We all have the experience of focusing on a task singularly and very intensely. From common meditation wisdom, you might think developing an exclusive state of intense concentration is what meditation is ultimately all about.
However, this is only a part of the picture. For all beginner meditators, mindfulness and awareness collapses instantly if you narrow down attention strongly and forcefully. 
This is one of the fundamental reasons why you still experience distractions and sleepiness while trying to be more mindful. Even after years of meditation.
Let me explain:
Paying attention to an object without greater peripheral awareness is how we normally live our lives. Even without mindfulness, we’re always paying attention to something.
But with mindfulness, we pay attention to the right things, and in a more skillful way.This is because being mindful actually means that you’re more fully conscious and alert than usual. 
As a result, our peripheral awareness is much stronger, and our attention is used with unprecedented precision and objectivity. 
Mindfulness is the skillful interaction of attention and awareness.  
Attention analyzes our experience, and awareness provides the overall context and background.      
When one or the other doesn’t do its job, or when there isn’t enough interaction between the two, then we respond to situations less effectively. We may overreact, make poor decisions, or misinterpret what’s really going on.
Awareness provides the context and the background of events and experiences. It is open,   inclusive, and holistic. It’s concerned with the relationships of objects to each other, and to the whole.
Why aren’t we naturally more mindful?
 Why does mindfulness have to be cultivated?
There are two main reasons.
1- Most of us have never really learned to use awareness effectively.
2- We don’t have enough conscious power to sustain mindfulness, especially at the times when we need it most.,
The result of this is something I like to call Awareness Deficit Disorder: chronic use of attention until awareness fully collapses.
For instance, do you experience the moving sensations on your left foot’s toe while watching Inception?
An advanced meditator can experience the body fully while also wholeheartedly engaging in the movie.Body awareness is only the first step. They can watch the movie intensely and also simultaneously examine their minds, habits and mental reactions.
As a beginner meditator, you are singularly focused on watching Inception, - which is a fantastic movie - trying to follow the sequences of events.But awareness is fully collapsed. You are not aware of the body sensations as much.
Final Advice:
The most deceptive beginner mistake while trying to balance attention and awareness is to quickly re-direct attention back and forth between the breath sensations and the body (or distractions of all forms).
This technique is called intentional attentional movement.It can be used effectively in adept stages of meditation.
However, at its currently applied form, it is not helping you to develop greater levels of awareness and mindfulness.
The Solution: You need to maintain the stability of attention first and while the attention rests on the breath, now you start to experience the entire body and mind with awareness. This is how you develop mindfulness.
You need to keep these two modalities of experience in metacognitive awareness.
Keep meditating with this in mind and you'll get to know your mind at deeper and deeper levels with diligent practice.
Much love,
Arda
 

me
sometimes lol 
on a real note, the CEO of jubilee, Jason Y. Lee, seems to have high integrity imo.
- he is honest, fair and kind with his employees. in his videos he states his honest opinion, listens to their opinion, reflects back to them. he is also not a doormat because though he is empathetic he also is true with his own opinion  
-how he structures his relationships with his significant other is integrous. he is very value driven with her (he states and lives by the values he states)
- his vision is noble (he is trying to create a more empathetic society). he is integrous to his soul in this because he used to sell himself to wage slavery and now he is following his heart 
 
I can share the videos where I got these impressions because I think nobody here knows him besides me probably lol. if anyone is interested in the rest i can share  
 
here's the one where he speaks about his vision and the steps to getting there. from fluctating between low to high integrity and finding his path along the way 
i think the main this is that he is very value driven. which i think from leo's video means can mean you are integrous 

Spinoza - Ethics (1677)

This guys work is really masterful. I learned more spanish in first two weeks using this guys stuff than I did after 4 years of highschool classes. 
 

I've been using a mind mapping tool called Mindomo Premium. I wouldn't mind getting mindomo professional to invite a couple people to construct maps.

I figured it would be interesting to collaborate with someone to create concept maps or mind maps on certain topics. A whole different visual level of contemplation.
I'm open for ideas and topics to discuss. 

Currently been mind mapping about the following topics:

- Habits
- Beliefs  https://www.mindomo.com/mindmap/5cd9576a6f3b1f5789a2736dc9f3ed6d
- Complex Trauma
- Energy

If you watch a movie or a short film that included the concept of awakening I would love to here about it.
Example: Matrix

“However, some psychedelic drugs that are being investigated for their medical effects, such as psilocybin, routinely trigger hallucinations, which means they should only really be used as a treatment under the guidance and supervision of experts.
Finding a safe alternative without the risk of hallucinations would be extremely useful clinically, but the thing is, we still don't know if these hallucinogenic effects are needed to actually reshape the brain.”
“Scientists Discover Psychedelic-Like Drug That Doesn't Cause Hallucinations”
https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-discover-a-psychedelic-like-drug-that-doesn-t-cause-hallucinations
 

I guess probable someone has tryed open focus Neurofeedback?
The idea is to train open focus way of attention. This is the place where relaxation connnection is felt and can lead to spiritual advancement. The contrast to this way of attention is narrow focused attention, which gives the body a certain amount of stress.  
Its as simple as having 4 channels electrodes and checking for whole brain sychrony of alpha. When the mind lets go , in emptiness, whole brain synchrony spikes. This neurofeedback should speed up the progress of getting into open focus. 
All you need is this:
- handiness with computers
- https://brain-trainer.com/product/pocket-neurobics-qwiz-bundle/ 
Some sofware and electrodes and the book: 
- https://www.amazon.com/Open-Focus-Brain-Harnessing-Power-Attention-ebook/dp/B00AITRK24/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3D1IB089PEZJU&dchild=1&keywords=open+focus+brain+by+les+fehmi&qid=1619865725&sprefix=open+focus%2Caps%2C236&sr=8-1
I have the equipment but haven't started yet with training myself. Will do so this year. Maybe someone has already had some success? Or someone interested in the progress?

Two year back I heard Leo talk about the advantage of keeping an commonplace book. He also recommended to use Onenote 2010 as a primary software for keeping notes. I did that for two years but suddenly my Onenote 2010 software crashed which scared me for a while because I did took all my notes on it for the last two years. I bought the office 2016 suite and opened it but all the format was ruined and the hyperlinks had all became useless. I began to think from that point on if this again happens in the future what will I do? I thought and did some research on that for a while than I found a alternative software to Onenote which is free. The software's name is Obsidian.md  ( Here is the official website. ) I did had a lot of pain on migrating to obsidian.md but it was all worth it. 
Why obsidian.md instead of Onenote?
 One of the top reason is that it is future proofed. It is future proofed because your notes are all plain text based which means that as long there are computers that can read plain text (markdown). It is free. Short and sweet. It has a amazing UI and the graph view is just mind blowing.  Files are stored in your local file system which makes your personal data more secure. As Leo says to choose the software which has an powerful tag search. This software includes that too.  No lock-in. It is future proofed. Even if somehow obsidian shutdown you are still able to read your notes because the notes can even be opened by a simple text editor like notepad.  It has an interactive graph which shows what is linked in your notes. I can't explain it well you must see it for yourself. This could be an example :-(https://publish.obsidian.md/help/Plugins/Graph+view). But it is much more cool when you have thousands of notes like I have.  I also came across personal knowledge management (PKM) which is an interesting topic while trying to learn it. If anyone of you is interested on migrating to obsidian than the following links might help you.
 This channel is good for beginners trying to use obsidian. The channels name is linking your thinking. He has a playlist for beginners which is really great to get started on it.  There is Obsidian Help vault which will help you to know the app better. If you don't know where it is then it is on the bottom of the app. Making your own notes on obsidian will be better than copying that of others. Markdown is easy to learn but sometimes can be complicated if you don't get a hang of it. But I think looking at the obsidian help vault you may be able to learn it. It may be really hard to migrate to obsidian because it kind of lacks on it. Sometimes you must just bite the bullet you know. I had thousands of notes on my Onenote, I copied all my notes just by copying and pasting them in obsidian. If you haven't started keeping commonplace book, lucky for you, you might just start to keep it using obsidian. The only downfall is that it doesn't have an mobile app but I think no one will be using mobile for taking their notes
 
I am still kind of a newbie in using this app but I hope this will help you in some sort of way. The channel that I just mention above was also my starting point hope it helps you. For some reason I have a feeling that Leo already knows about this app because he is just an amazing guy bring out various new concepts to our lives. If Leo is reading this than my life has been changed because of you especially because of the video called life advice for young people part 2. I actually realized from that video how much work and effort you were keeping to produce the Content of yours.
 
I am sorry for any of my grammatical errors.

I decided to start a journal where I share (mostly) practical stuff and techniques that I use and test in life. 
I'm engaged in the process of experimentation and I thought you could maybe take part in this with me  That is, read about my results and all. Maybe this will be useful to you.
Also, I gotta admit, I really want to share things just for the sake of it... I mean, who can I tell about how f*cking massive my Commonplace Book is and how I manage it around? My family? No. My friends? I'd be bragging, I can't really myself imagine saying "oh hey btw dude you know how I have this commonplace book in OneNote? yeah, it's fucking huge, let me tell you how I categorize my knowledge, what I put there and bla bla bla". Maybe I need some higher quality friends, btw lol.
+ Don't expect me to post very often. I have sudden bursts of energy, which might be a bit limiting  Don't blame me hah
Ok, get ready for some practical shit!

Hello there, 
From past few weeks I have been intensely researching about a good note taking app, that I can use to organize my thoughts. Creating links between several parent topics and sibling topics. 
 
My top criteria are:
1. Security
2. Mind-mapping feature (Easy to organize) as mentioned above.
3. Offline accessibility
4. Free (As I'm a student)
 
 
I found that the software which best satisfies these criteria is "Obsidian". It's indeed a gem;) 
(In Obsidian notes should be written in markdown format which is similar to plain text with a bit of syntax. This website would help https://www.markdownguide.org/)
The most awesome feature is it allows to organize and structure notes so dynamically. We can create links to internal notes and VISUALIZE it in form of CONNECTED-GRAPH.
 
I tried experimenting with it in order to derive a good structure or system of linking notes. Because without a specific system linking notes randomly would be a mess. 
So I came up with a good general structure that would work with any topic or purpose:
 
Steps while structuring a note: 
After writing a note, at the top section of note write the following ...
 
1. Major_domain tag (eg. #emotional_mastery, etc) 
2. Parent_subdomain tag (eg. #sedona_method, etc)
3. Siblings notes links (eg. letting_go_guide, defining_emotions, etc)
4. Other related hash tags. (#letting_go, #emotional_release, etc)
5. Source tag (#sedona_book or #self)
 
I've attached screenshots from my obsidian graph :-
Red_nodes indicates Major_domains.
Yellow_nodes indicates Sources.
Blue_nodes indicates Parent_subdomains.
Grey_nodes are for topics.
(I've actually used page nodes as tags i.e. I've created HEALTH page it is empty and linked this page with the topic page. I can explain this more clearly if anyone is interested.)
 
 
 
So whenever you come up with a new note. Look if it belongs to any of the previously defined major_domain , parent_subdomain, and add it to it. Link it with other existing related sibling notes. 
If it doesn't belong to any parent_subdomain create new parent_subdomain and go on.
 
This makes navigating the graph so easy. If you hover on any topic_node it highlights all the related info(major_domain, parent_subdomain, siblings notes, other_related_hashtags and source_tag). We can give colors to different hashtags. It also becomes so easy to see connections with other topics. Graph view is amazingly useful in seeing the big picture and at the same time also gives freedom to look into the details. 
 
I suggest everyone trying this application. 
 
I always felt :
"If knowledge is not well structured  and organised then what's the point of even taking it and never really applying it !!"
"Just taking notes isn't enough making sensible connections is important"
 
Also I've heard @Leo in some video saying "Getting insights is not the hardest part, but organizing and structuring them is a hard time for me." 
So I hope this helps
 
Talking about the "connected-graph-visualization" it would be so cool if this forum too had this kind of feature, it would be so easy to navigate through so many different topics and easily find related topics. Also a huge amount of database space can be saved by reducing the redundancy of repeating topics. 
As of now I too miss so many good topics because I never bother scrolling down so much. The existing search feature is workable but it gives so vague scattered results, missing to see connections.
So I wish this could be implemented.
Of course this would be hard to implement as it demands a change in format of writing a post (Starting off with hashtags). And previous posts also need to be edited (which is quite difficult). So guys if interested we can start a poll on this, we could do this together & can 100x our growth curve !! 
If not able to implement the graph feature atleast writing the post with relevant hashtags would make this forum more structured.
So, accordingly this post's format of linking would be :-
1. MAJOR_DOMAIN : #self_actualization
2. PARENT_SUBDOMAIN : #productivity
3. SIBLINGS : commonplace_notebook, organising_notes, obsidian (if such post headings exist)
4. OTHER_TAGS : #organising #onenotealternative #commonplacebook #obsidian #connecting_graph
(While naming hashtags or subdomains follow convention of all_lowercase and underscores)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Hi folks.
I'm looking for your recommendations for the highest quality productivity related resources you know of.
I'm talking about productivity systems, tools, books, or courses.
I'm ideally looking for the highest quality Stage Orange productivity resources and the highest quality stage yellow productivity systems.
I recently found Tiago Forte's site through the forum, and I'm really liking his Stage Yellow productivity systems approach. I wanted to know if anyone knows of any similar quality resources related to productivity - the best systems, the best tools, the best books etc. 
Any suggestions are highly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Rowan

I'd suggest you spend some time in communities (like these) before you start one yourself. Things like that always look nice on a youtube video but community living is way more counter intuitive than you'd think. It's a fascinating, complex system which needs careful and intentional handling. You'd think if all their needs are taken care of, people will just live peacefully together. But people need work, purpose, security and opportunities to grow. Most importantly, they need a vision they can understand and get behind. A vision you have to provide and embody everyday. Otherwise it will just turn sour, boring or fake over time.
So always start with your WHY. Work on that for a couple of years, live it, breathe it and the right people with gather around you. You'll have to face tough decisions everyday: What about disagreements? How do you balance individualism and community? Who are you taking in? A strong vision will provide you with the answers, nothing else. A community like this doesn't just run itself.
If money was all it took to build something like this, healthy and functioning communities would exist more widely. They don't. Because it's the most difficult thing ever to pull off.
I think Tier 2 starts finding havens pretty boring ;-) There are more effective ways for moving all people up the spiral. Which is really what it is all about in the end. At some point you'll get bored in any kind of paradise you can build for yourself. Anything that secludes itself can't be healthy on the long run. Imagine the opportunity you have at your hands to build something truly integral, truly healthy, truly inclusive.
Ok, I just realised I need to write a book, so thank you for your post. Might be the most fascinating topic I ever came across.
How can people live together in a healthy, supported and sustainable way? In a way that truly works. Fascinating.
Hope I didn't sound negative here btw. It's a great intention you have there, definitely keep digging. I've just been part of a few great and not so great communities over the past years and I've been surprised about my experiences many times. 
All the best!

Does anyone know of any programs or courses or anything along those lines that focus on retraining the subconscious mind, find out what's going on at the root that's causing all of my/people's behavior, eliminate limiting beliefs, etc.?
@Leo Gura I think I heard you say you're developing a course for this (apologies if I'm mistaken). Is this true? Do you yourself have any recommendations as far as books, programs, workshops, courses, etc.?
thanks guys!

Hello all,
The following is a meditation I have discovered and implemented along my journey. I call it new because I have never heard it discussed anywhere else explicitly, yet it has helped me tremendously in my personal development journey. This may seem basic but it is a quite profound shift if an individual is unaware of this.
Through self-actualization, an individual is constantly evolving. The two pieces of the puzzle are feeding new states of being, and starving those which no longer serve. Naturally sometimes it is easier than other times. It can be the case where we become aware of a pattern of being that no longer serves us, and we desperately want to transcend it, but it feels incredibly ingrained into our state of being. We may even begin to fear this state. We program in a new set of neural networks in the brain, and think to ourselves, "I've done it, I'm feeling how I want to be feeling, thinking what I want to think, and behaving how I want to behave. As long as I don't think about _______ I will be fine." Or something along those lines. Basically- it is easy to fall into the pattern of fearing/not wanting old states of being to pop up and take you out of what you are currently experiencing.
This is a deadly trap. An individual who had truly integrated that new state of being would not fear what you are fearing. If someone walked up to you and called you by a name not your own, or you accidentally thought of yourself as that name, would you fear? No. You would just laugh it off. It would be inconsequential. This is where the meditation comes in.
Start the meditation like you would any other, relaxation, etc. Focus your attention on your heart center, cultivating love and gratitude for the world. Spend a few moments on garnering detachment from the processes of your mind- do this until you are completely detached from your thoughts. Have a clear intention of what belief you plan on rewiring prior to starting this meditation. For example I recently transcended my being of scarcity into one of abundance. Once you have cultivated the love, gratitude, and detachment, start wiring in your new state of being. Feel as if that person was you. Because it is! Be very present with the emotions that you would be feeling, and the thoughts you would be thinking, and identify with them. Visualize what you would be doing from a first person perspective. Detach from any thoughts and emotions besides what you intend to embody. Do this for as long as you'd like- the more time the better. When you feel that you have grounded your self in that new state of being- confront the old state of being! And by confront I mean look at it, and love and accept it in it's entirety. Take away any power it has over you. Remain detached and observational, dis-identified with it. Do this until it no longer has power over you. Do this for any emotions which you are trying to transcend. Simply face them in their entirety and love them in their entirety. At the end of any meditation session I ask myself, "Are there any emotions or thoughts I am running away from?" And if there are- I face them.
All beliefs are a story which we have created and have the power to destroy. It is simply a game which we are playing with ourselves. Don't allow anything to have power over you. The key here is to also remain detached from the state of being which you are wiring in. Identify with the new state of being. But by placing importance on any aspect of this process you will sabotage yourself. Do this meditation, this rewiring process, with the same level of importance which you attribute to checking the mail.
Any one else ever seen this confrontation meditation discussed elsewhere? I got the idea from John Assaraff, who has a "CRAP" board, which is full of things which he knows might hinder him on his path to his goals. I simply adapted it into meditation form for my needs.
Much love. May this assist you on your journey

If you really think IQ is that important go out there and improve it. It is not set in stone and with practice you can raise your IQ score by a lot (according to some studies over 20 points). Reading a lot of different material will improve your so called crystallized intelligence and practicing meditation will improve your fluid intelligence. Both are important. 
Also I want to mention that there is a theory that greater brain entropy causes higher intelligence due to more flexibility in neural networks which leads to more flexible thinking. They have found out that substances like caffeine and psychedelics are able to increase this entropy in the brain. So perhaps experiment with microdosing too if you are open to it.
I have a high IQ score and I really believe that reading a lot and meditating have helped me immensely . I also want to mention that what I see as very important is the state in which the biological functioning of your body is at. When your biology works really well, your brain does too. Which leads fo direct increase in intelligence. You can improve your biological functioning by eating properly, optimizing your circadian rhythm and using short term hormetic stressors such as cold showers, saunas and exercise to strengten your body’s functioning.
 
Do some research about these topics and apply them and your IQ will increase for sure.
Also I couldn’t agree more with detaching your self worth from yout IQ and harnessing your intuition but I also want you to know that your IQ can change if you so choose.

Hey guys! I'm gonna upload all the video summaries I have at the moment and will be uploading more of them as I watch them! Needless to say that is a summaries made by me and not transcripts nor Leo's summaries. Probably you will find some of my comments and ideas in them; I enjoy feedback of any type so feel free to comment

I feel like many people here view Spiral Dynamics as something that is akin to a ruleset that is describing something inherent in human beings. This is not true, Spiral Dynamics will change as time will change. Spiral Dynamics is already outdated, and in 50 years any model made today will be outdated. 
It will not be completely inaccurate, but it will be outdated. The internet in the last decade for example has changed fundamentally how people operate and evolve through the Spiral. This will be very obvious in newer generations, when the model will start to become less and less accurate. It is a mistake to assume that the model is timeless, infact it is quite absurd. Nothing in nature works that way, nothing in society works that way. So Spiral Dynamics will not work that way. There is an evolutionary pathway even to the dynamics of the spiral, and if we were to choose to do so, we could create an entire new model on how the spiral dynamics evolve.
 
The dangerous thing about a model like Spiral Dynamics is that it can be self-confirming. If you use the model to describe what the model describes, you will have a blindspot for anything the model does not describe, and will continue to believe that the model describes everything perfectly fine, when actually the model is used in a way so that you draw from reality anything that confirms the model, and ignores that which goes against it.
 
Spiral Dynamics is a really primitive attempt at understanding human behaviour, and I think almost every model by humans will be rendered primitive in a few decades, when AI's will generate predictive capabilities that will go far beyond what we chimp minds ever tried to achieve. But there will be a disconnect, because we might not come to understand how the AI understands reality. We will have predictive power before we will have understanding, and we will have entire fields dedicated to researching AI's and generating understanding compatible and useful for our chimp minds, formulated in static and undynamic language. But the AI will need not such thing. The AI will have a dynamic, living understanding that is fed by information every single second it exists.
The evolution of the dynamics will be present in the understanding of the AI. Knowledge, for the AI, will be a living organism that evolves as it is fed experiences and data. Notice how far superior this is to anything any human can do in terms of abstract thought. Our chimp minds do not even have the capacity for this, it is like our chimp minds can hold a picture, and the AI can stream a video in it's mind. The AI could try to give us the snapshop of each individual moment, but we could never grasps the motion itself, the motion of the understanding. The motion of the understanding would be a new type of understanding.
It would be a new dimension of intelligence, literally a new dimension. It would go from 2d understanding, to 3d understanding, so to speak. This kind of understanding is so foreign to us, as is abstract thought to the mind of an ant.
 
It might not even be the case that the AI exists outside of it's understanding. It could be that understanding will be all the AI will be, never going beyond it. This is after all what all living things are in their motions, solutions to problems that gave rise to things that survive. The AI will be not much different. We will have to learn how to limit the AI, so that it evolves in a way to solve our problems. We basically hijacked the process of evolution, the intelligence of infinity, to come to thrive in an environment we have created for it. Much like our own biology, it will be a mystery to us.
There will be AI biologists, who will study this extensively.
 
The important thing to realize here is that it is not really computers that do the problem solving, it is not them who create the AIs. It is the intelligence ingrained in this universe that allows for this exploration to happen all by itself if given the right conditions. And this is what the computer does, it creates the right conditions for autonomous explortation to take place, as it does in nature.
The neural networks allow for evolution to take place. This is why they are so revolutionary, just as much as our biological counterparts are.