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Yeah I wouldn't classify him as a monster. Obviously what he did is wrong. I do have compassion and understanding for him. He is or was an ego maniac at one point. I really don't know where I sit with his sentencing. I'm not a judge and I really don't know if we have a better alternative to what we have now. Obviously the prison system and sentencing needs an overhaul and we need rehabilitation first and the most non-bias judges but this is the best we got in society.

ok russell brand

Bro the strange part is he had sex with a 16 yo when he was 30 and the dating subforum was trying to explain away a 45 yo member here taking a 19 yo out on a date...

Well it's time to lock in bro. We all make mistakes. It isn't the early 2000s anymore. DUI is something a naive college student does. Thankfully I never got caught so I'm not judging you cause I have made the same mistake when I was in Uni but I def would learn from this and not make the same mistake again. You could hurt someone if you crash.

Oh I really don't know. I only ever saw thumbnails of his stuff and maybe watched 5-10 minutes total of it. He really leaned into the enlightenment stuff and seemed very stage green at the time. He has fully regressed into blue. I have seen it before. There is a type of new age person who turns blue after an existential crisis. But yeah he was really leaning into the mystical stuff.

@Inliytened1 why were you in jail?

Russell Brand? For a period of time he was angling himself as a mystic around COVID.

I don't understand how anyone can not like this guy. He is a guru who has taken Hindu spirituality and made it palatable for the west. He is pretty chill and cute. I like hearing him talk. He doesn't really say anything deep or profound to me but he is just nice to listen to and have on in the background sometimes. I tried his yoga once and it didn't suit me. I prefer Qi Gong. I only see a wise man who has helped a lot of people, not perfectly but he has done a good job. The last time I checked he doesn't run the same kinda cult or whatever that's around him getting sex from his followers or them staging poisonings. He's mature enough to at least keep some integrity in his organization.

The Tates must be shitting their fucking beds at the moment

Damn can you imagine a shit day in prison with shit food, other prisoners talking shit at you, having shit all to do, missing your family back home, wealth, all those comforts of being a spoiled celebrity, the cell door closing at night and it setting in you have 10 years to do... Holy crap that is rough. That is losing your mind potential stuff, it will break his current self.

Look up his seduction book. It was written a bit before the first wave of PUAs and mentioned in "The Game." I don't know if Greene himself was PUA persay as it's understood today but his seduction book is one of the spiritual grandfather books that inspired the whole movement. He is proto-pua

I will be just a bit accusative but as a former PUA, maybe I'm projecting, but that sounds like him washing it a bit to feel better about his original intentions. He was a former PUA / PUA adjacent. We were a corrupt bunch of outsiders.

PA are almost always abused by rich people. I have seen it first hand. It's messed up. They work nonstop. It's basically a job that you think because you are adjacent to wealth and sorta working under the principal of power that it will somehow help you or "you'll have a good contact", but nah, they view PAs the same as cleaners and taxi drivers.

Because they are written from a lower stage of development. This doesn't mean much, and by that I mean my perspective of them being a lower stage doesn't diminish the depth or worth or uniqueness of them. I'm not trying to set up a hierarchy where I just diminish what Greene says or all the work he put into this book. There are a lot of things I can learn from Greene, just by him being able to sit down and actually finish a book is good work. I can still appreciate certain ideas that don't align with my values or what I look for in an author. Red pill a narrow perspective and the ideas Greene writes about will appeal more to this type of person. Counter intuitively I would still try to learn something from Greene if anything he wrote was worth reading but I have read similar books by other people so I don't need a regurgitation. "Thick Face, Black Heart" is a masterpiece and I chose it over Greene and I'm glad I did. Tony Robbins really scratches that itch for more "stage orange" spiritual stuff Tony is just a big fuzzy warm guy and he brings a smile to my face. I really like Tony, he's a big ol' cute guy even if he dumps his millions into AI defense companies that make weapons for Israel and corrupt wall street brokers.

Of all his books (none of which I have read) this one at least sounds the most interesting. The part about him having to write by hand sounds interesting and I do like reading about people gaining insights from challenges in life. You can still learn a lot from other people's experiences if they wrote the book in their flow and with god in mind even if they don't match up to another expectation you have. Never the less I doubt I'll read it anytime soon, I have much bigger stuff in the works.

yall I can see why you guys scared Emerald off 😭

I've seen some increases in my productivity with AI since it's launch. It definitely helps and I do use it often. It's actually great for various tasks. I'm just not seeing my experience match all the hype of people who seem to have replaced every task of theirs with AI and seemingly are doing every task through AI now.

Thanks, I'll give it a listen

Just become clear within yourself and from within you'll find your path.

35 is uncle status, yeah I would not hang out with anyone bellow 21 and it wouldn't be the same type of friendship. For casual dating / sex I'd say the cut off for uncles is like between 21-24 depending on your age. If you're low 30s prob can go start at 20/21. If you're hitting 40s I'd say not much bellow 22 when they finish University. People mature a ton from 18-24. 18,19, sometimes even 20 and 21 are like talking to high schoolers still mentally.

19 and 45, nah it's weird. You would go lower if you could bro. I would think you're a creep to be honest if I met you. They have to have at least finished university. Discipline yourself.

It really is. And a lot of the things that drive attraction and passion and the subtitles of sex can be difficult to map to the way consent is presented in law and legal proceedings. There isn't a romance novel on earth that is written around a woman that meets a guy and they communicate openly and consent is given verbally and they live happily ever after in their perfect little world of clear communication. Most romance novels have a man forcing himself on a woman, kissing her neck, she says no but her body says yes, all that nonsense. Many women are turned on by a men pushing, being the forward force, no words, connection, etc. Law and consent and judgements have a very hard time mapping to this. Nothing I am saying here is excusing his behavior nor that there are real problems when it comes to communication and sex. This is simply all we got though, the best we can do as of now is have our laws and hold a trial.

I haven't read his books but every time I have seen him speak I haven't really been moved at all. Someone in here called his style having a bit of a Machiavellian vibe to it and I would agree. I like writers with a warmth to them. I want to feel like the author is my mom or dad telling me a story. I don't have endless time and energy in my life to find out if every author is worth the time or not but idk I only give time to people who I see as profound, masters of that which they are writing about. I get the sense with him he is good at articulating things and maybe only 1-2 steps ahead of most of his audience. If I want more stage orange type content I'm set with Tony Robbins or Owen Cooke. Takes 30 minutes with them and my reading time can go to someone else who I think has written something more valuable. There really isn't anything new or profound most of these guys can say on stuff like seduction, power and getting what you want, or the like. And if I am reading on spirituality I'm looking for a radically different and mature perspectives than mine to produce original insights, nothing nondual, not any seeker neo advaita tinged stuff or stuff written by gurus, I'm looking for truly niche perspectives that use new language which offer unique awakens that don't fit into usual seeker language, not western perspectives I'm familiar with or mainstream Hindu / usual Buddhist / new age / Jungian stuff. I'm really drawn to Chinese spirituality and people who have been through hell and back like facing a very hard challenge in life. I like spiritual books that are artful, and that teach in koans, fables and poetry. Sounds like Greene went through something tough here so I would probably read this book of his before any of his others.

Something like what Brand did is difficult to judge because what he did which has been deemed to be wrong is woven in a good bit with many other details of his case which would not be considered criminal. I have a bias here which I am wanting to make fully transparent here because in many ways I see many shades of Brand's behavior accepted and valued and seen as a valuable commodity by most women in the dating "market place" (I hate this word). I am going to take some time to do some reflecting on this case and my bias. Sex and passion and things that happen in the heat of the moment do not always map perfectly to judgement and law, which is why we have a legal system and why it isn't perfect. It's the best we got but it ain't perfect.

You have to realize that living in Wu Wei is an art, it is an earned experience. It's not something you pop a pill for. You have to deliberately practice it and cultivate the same thing as anything else you would attempt to master. It is the art of living. You are in for a surprise if you have certain beliefs about the way things should be. They will not always line up with the reality of things. This will make you feel bad. At the same time have you taken account for all the ways you sabotage and create painful emotions for yourself otherwise? Comparing, judging, critisizing, expecting people and the world to be different than it is? At the end of the day this work is not about emotions. You have to see through emotion, cease to create what isn't working and stop living by emotional logic.