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So by vaping you can sort of gently and gradually condition yourself psychologically to take a leap of faith? I think this would be good for me since I don't handle extreme sudden changes well always and I have to cope with those enough already in my daily life. It's good for me to go slow and get used to an environment and practice a bit, gently parent myself so I'm taking off from a really stable launch pad. It's the reason I hate Ayahuasca retreats. It's far too chaotic and messy with any lack of rules or structure to them. I prefer to go it alone from the safety of my home.

No, I wouldn't agree with this. From my POV, awakening is the opposite of that junk. It's the most beautiful crystal clarity of the mind, a feeling of coming home, fullness, being set free. Timeless, boundless, alive. Everything makes sense yet is unknown, an invitation to explore a mystery where challenges await but a sense of endless expansion calls out. It is true sanity. There is nothing insane about it except trying to bring along any issues, then yes you can start to drown. Release them. Float and swim. Carrying around problems though will drown you regardless whether or not you pursue awakening (unlearning).

Well this is the issue. This is what I would recommend you really explore, why you see your self worth this way and if it’s even true. Why do you choose this?

No, you choose who you follow, you choose what information you intake and you choose what you do with your mind and wellbeing. Your creation. My one bit of critique towards Leo would be putting more safe guards into the community to keep guys who may not be ready for psychedelics and this type of work from trying to partake.

I think calling it a collapse is a bit over exaggerated. Probably similar to how people now keep saying the Ukraine front line will collapse. This conflict will most likely be solved diplomatically and it will likely result in Ukraine losing the annexed land. I think Russia will stop fighting when it really starts to feel more economic pain. I think both sides will ultimately experience some form of pyrrhic victory. I don't think either side will really be able to claim much and the fighting will likely stop where it's currently geographically at more or less. I think Russia will give up some of it's conditions like neutral status of Ukraine. There will be some sort of security guarantee for Ukraine.

You sound very attached to results. Women absolutely do pick up on that and it does not attract, it repels. There is a big difference between the guy who subconsciously has all sorts of expectations and is hinging his wellbeing on getting results and the guy who is free in this regard. I would focus more on foundational work around your worth as a man and connecting with your true spiritual value. You don’t sound like you’re having fun. You need to connect back to why you want to relate to women in the first place and start valuing yourself first. Men like this radiate an energy that is fun because they genuinely are having fun and not putting pressure on it. Tap into this.

If you feel worthless, look toward your inner light and spirit. You don’t need other people, family/friends or women to make you valuable. You are innately valuable as you are regardless of what role you play in the human society game. If you lose track of that and have to look elsewhere for justification you will be chasing a ghost.

What Leo said is correct, and is really the culmination for all painful emotions and experiences where you’re not as one. I think some people each have a different story and all of our lives are different so there may be some different story or painful experience but it culminates in the same thing. You are spiritually valuable whole and one as you are. The human / ego / inner child side really needs shepherding, this is where yin and yang come in. You are gentle, loving and accepting of your human side who believes it needs people’s attention and approval to be whole, that’s fine. We accept that and recognize that aspect of human life. We then focus our energy beyond it towards that which is always whole here and now and will never leave you or change (unlike people who do come and go). There will be this natural flow and recognition where you start to align with what’s true and feel at peace. Keep in mind this isn’t a race and doesn’t have to be forced. It’s little by little each day with no timeline or finish line. I myself am still working on this amongst the plethora of other beliefs I have. A lot of mine circle around me being a “bad person” due to disapproval from my parents and beliefs that I can’t cope with the changes in the world and not being good enough because of this. The thing is that we live in modern society with responsibilities that offer us each a unique path back home. Trust the natural unfolding with your uniqueness.

Don’t worry, you guys will unite around ethnic cleansing and stealing more Palestinian land and killing more Palestinian citizens on the land you stole from them. Nothing unites a group of people like a genocide.

Wasn't there some bust of some monks selling meth once?

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I wouldn’t say it’s certain. There’s a real possibility Israel destroys everything around them and builds up such a strategic advantage that it will be swept under the rug. Think about what the USA did to natives. But I think what’s more likely is some degree of aid will be cut and international support will be so overwhelming that they have to scale back their Zionism. It’s not likely Israel will have to give back all the land they stole.

Keep in mind there is no path towards peace and likely won’t ever be. Because peace means capitulation and surrendering to thieves who stole your land and killed your ancestors. There is also a LONG fight ahead too. It’s generational and Palestinians won’t forget this war or all what’s happened before since the Zionist inception of “Israel.” Palestine and the Arab world far outnumber the Jews in that region. There is a possibility of Israel gets it’s aid cut (very likely as boomers die) and other states recognize Palestine that Israel will be forced towards a day of reckoning for their crimes.

It shows how little Jews actually learned. Wanting to always be the victim. That’s tough and at the same time they became the nazis themselves now. I’m Jewish btw. My grandma had to flee Germany for the USA. Was stateless, lost her dad to nazis, etc. I see Germany/Poland as my ancestral homeland. Genealogically we were there for 800+ years. I don’t need to spin a tale about a made up country that isn’t even 100 years old and how I’m indigenous to it.

The thing is though that's usually a conscious and natural choice that is made with ease after someone has let go of a lot of the beliefs that tie them to society for things like approval, validation, etc. So in a sense it's sort of a form of transcendence. It's not them being edgy or trying to be above society. I don't think the guys here who are posting in the dating sub forum should be thinking about this.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/23/business/sports-gambling-risk-young-men Has anyone noticed how rampant sports betting and crypto betting has become among gen z and gen alpha guys? ESPN and UFC has marketed this shit to their viewers so much. It used to be illegal to gamble like this and you definitely couldn’t advertise it. Now huge brands, large social media accounts are marketing draft kings and similar shit. This is absolutely disgusting. Not only can young guys not get laid in the USA anymore but every single brand and vice looking to scam them are like vultures, just waiting to catch them with fear based hooks and easy dopamine. There’s even a trend where guys who work minimum wage jobs will film themselves gambling their entire days earning on a blackjack hand. Discuss this problem and share any information on this new wave of gambling addiction.

Ain’t this the truth. I learned this one the hard way after thinking I knew better with every person I interacted with when talking about life. I do think there’s one thing we always can do though when we meet someone we believe isn’t really valuing truth, stay silent and not engage.

While I agree with your assessment that many people choose to not connect to something greater and not live a life aligned with truth, I think your tone is too outward focused and not really as aligned as it could be for yourself. Even if the world wants to play a fools game, so what? The point is we ourselves don’t have to get caught up in it all. You seen the herd run off the cliff. Be the one that stays back and lets them. That’s the only way they will learn. We ourselves are learning as well. No need to doubt ourselves. We can cope no matter what until the day comes until we don’t and it doesn’t change our value. No need to get wrapped up in ideas in what the world could be. It is what it is. Just focus on yourself. There’s still an infinite amount of joy and reasons to live even through all the mistakes people make. Keep in mind how hard life was prior too. Relatively speaking we went a bit soft, we got to have more gratitude for what we have and do our best. A lot of people went through some tough times jsut for us to talk on the internet like this. This is at least my thought process when I see all the negative news on my phone.

@trenton First off I hear that you’re struggling and I’m sorry about all this. This is not easy and to have your family hurt you and have a conflict like this is not something that’s always easy to live with. I would invite you just to be open to the possibility that regardless of all the mean things your family has done and problems you’ve faced that you are valuable and enough exactly as you are. And that you are loved and appreciated just as you are, and that it doesn’t hinge on whether or not your family approves of you or treats you right. It’s just true that you are valuable and good enough as you are now in this moment. The truth is that even if we go through times where family don’t approve of us or we are not in a relationship or having people showing signs of love, mirroring back what we have already, it doesn’t change we are valuable. This also doesn’t change or diminish the challenges you’re facing. I would go easy on yourself and not doubt your greatness especially during a time like this.

I’m sorry if my message came off as demeaning. @Twentyfirst is not a donkey but a person who has his own beliefs and point of view. Yesterday was situationally a very unfamiliar and challenging day for me so I was not of the clearest mind and made a mistake. Simultaneously I do not wish to engage with his posts in this thread because I do believe his point of view is sort of half baked and not really worth discussing because there are some fundamental disagreements we won’t be able to get past to have any meaningful exchange.

The thing is I don’t have time or really the will to work with strange cartoony / mind bendy stuff. Not saying there isn’t any value in exploring that. Just where I am in life or what I wish to create doesn’t align with that now. I’m excited though to discover new substances that sort of match the rhythm I’m on. I heard mescaline is very gentle and a very grounded experience for self inquiry tripling. I hope to do some work with this in 2026.

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You said a lot of things here. I won’t reply to every point but will say you are doing a great job. We often times build a world view around beliefs that weren’t even ours. We just took them on due to our childlike reasoning and lack of perspective. Now that you are older you are working on that. To answer your question, I would address why you feel lonely. Can you come from a place where you are responsible and have some perspective on why you create an emotional you label as loneliness? There are very likely a set of beliefs behind it worth exploring, usually around your worth and beliefs on how relationships complete your life. Now I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with feeling lonely nor are relationships unimportant or something worth putting time into. What I’m saying is look into your perception of yourself, beliefs about yourself in relation to why you choose to feel lonely. I don’t think it’s really worth putting energy into thinking about how others will perceive you with this. Just build that relationship with yourself more and more and take care of your self, really address why you choose to feel lonely, and much of your issues around this will resolve.

Could you be open to the possibility that maybe as you live life and as it is unfolding you become more and more alive, and then when the day comes that your body returns to the earth and story you lived comes to an end that you are the most alive you could ever be? I want to tell you now that death is not bad or a problem. It’s just a changing of seasons. In fact you were drawn to this community so I think you know deep down that you are being guided towards these truths which are bringing you more and more to life. I know endings can be hard. I feel sad about family that has passed, how one day my 75 year old dad will pass on, my story here will come to an end. It is a bit hard and frankly I want to say something I wish to create sadness over since my life has had its ups and downs but I genuinely believe I’ve lived a good life, I really hope to continue this and pass it to my future kid(s). But it of course will change and that’s ok, if you believe in spirituality, you too can become aware it’s just a changing of seasons how it’s autumn now and the leaves turn brown.