Lyubov

They keep polishing a turd. I still haven’t seen this shit replace anyone that’s actually doing something which requires the ability to reason and understand the world. It’s like there is this strangely liminal quality that comes through a lot of the responses when the work requires human experience and understanding. You can outsource a lot of repetitive stuff to it and I do admit it is exceptionally handy, but why is all the marketing for it not honest and about this? Why is it all a bunch of lies how it’s the second coming of Christ? It’s ridiculous at this point. Please fucking crash and can the general populace come together to hang these tech nuts?

It’s earned. You have to often times devote yourself to the things which shape your life in this way, right understanding, right action, inner child work, clarity of mind, etc. You have to look deeply, observe your environment and your unique life and chart your path upwards. I wouldn’t make it about trying to hold onto a feeling or state. More about empathy and understanding for your own unique situation and your right to be intrinsically valuable and authentic.

I've decided to delete this app. I believe it does more harm than good. For what I'm doing I don't need it on my main phone. Has anyone decided to detox fro social media and short form videos? I believe I'm done for good with the app. It is just a gross place and it's not worth being there for me anymore.

Does anyone here have a facial skin care routine they follow? Something to reduce redness and make your face look healthier and skin clearer and nicer?

I saw it on tv too. I was 10 and in 5th grade. I was at school and I remember the tv showing the news live. I remember seeing one or both of the towers fall. I don’t remember if we were there to see the second plane hit, I think the tv went on in my social studies classroom after both hit. I do remember watching one or both of the towers fall live. I believe the principal then told the teachers to turn the tv off as it was too disturbing. The teachers were all shook, the librarian too. I don’t remember the lessons from the rest of the day, the teachers all seemed worried. I was in the school library later that day and even saw my dad’s car. He came to the school to check on us but he didn’t take us out early. He picked us up and we talked about it and we watched W give his speech that night.

He claims he had 75 women working for him at his peak. This is a load of shit. In fact a lot of the stories he repeats he will 5-7x the amount of girls in it. You have to assume 80% of what he says is a lie or twisted to make it sound like he had more money or women than he did even when he was trafficking women.

This one is fkn weird. This kid is deeply disturbed. Dude got into a firefight when he coulda walked away.

Yeah, once you reach a certain age you sorta realize you gotta accept it. Whatever woman you are with will have a thing or two that will piss ya off, don't dwell on the past. Obviously you can filter and choose someone who perhaps hasn't gone so crazy that it creates all sorts of issues where you're running into her ex bfs with her and whatnot, but even girls who appear good will have done a few things that will piss you off. So don't dwell too much on the past but get a read on her if she is worth building a relationship or not now. Nothing wrong with pursuing women who weren't promiscuous just know it may be a fruitless effort and not go how you expect.

I don’t know any relationship that starts off perfectly. There’s a good bit of performing that gets it off the ground.

He is also heavily inflating how many women he actually abused and enslaved and had camming for him. I can't put a number on it but as you research and put usernames together it is far smaller than the number he claims. The main woman he mostly trafficked is a woman named Bibiana Hruskova who is the victim that is in the video of her being beat by him with a belt, filmed in the UK (Luton). She is the model mentioned above. This has already been published by The New Yorker and other media outlets. She was underage when the video was filmed and published too... the dude is fucking sick, he even inflates his own rape number...

I'm gonna do some digging, I can probably find some of his old tweets where he openly talks about sleeping with 15/16 yo underage girls, a very serious crime, dude was sick, bragged about it and admitted to beating them too

Lol I found old posts about the models he used to pimp. He would perform on camera too according to this review. He had one "mamasan" he used to plaster and post and talk to on his twitter. She went quiet after Tate got arrested back in 2022, she def could be charged for something as well as an accomplice but I guess she knows this and has laid low since. She is also a victim of his so she probably is being used to collect evidence and given a pardon for her role in recruiting a couple more victims. Take over inflates the number of women he had camming for him. I remember her twitter user name and you can find all sorts of old posts and information about him and his cam business still online if you know their old usernames and what to search. He deleted a lot of the incriminating posts on twitter and I'm sure his old group chats for his war room have been scrubbed but you can find a lot of it still and second hand accounts. There was someone in the pick up online space back then for those who did pick up in Russia back in 2017/2018, adjacent to Tate back then who would mention him and say how he would try to scout girls or whatever for him. idk if that guy is still running around or cleaned up his act. he had a "moscow nightlife" website that was sorta a funnel into that community and of course was a grift as well to teach how to pick up Russian women. Anyone who was doing pick up back in 2015-2018/9 in eastern Europe was adjacent to the spaces Tate would post in and knows about all the terrible shit he would brag about openly.

He's trying so hard to walk everything back. It never took more than an average level of development to see through him and know he's a sex trafficker. I remember even seeing his twitter and videos back in like 2017/2018. He literally used to brag on social media back then about sex trafficking Romanian women and sleeping with underage girls. Does anyone else remember him from back then? His content was very extreme and on the fringes of the manosphere but he had a following and would sell the war room and his pimping hoes programs. He went by cobra tate back then. He tried to clean it up a bit later and moderate his voice cause he knew it would attract more money, then when he finally blew up in 2022 he has tried to pivot hard away from his old content. He admits to everything he is charged with. Anyone who read his twitter in 2017 knows this

This exactly

Careful with your expectations. Sometimes holding onto them can be where your energy goes instead of into the things that actually makes women decide they wanna fuck you. 200 approaches is an unfathomable number. Slow down, tune in. If you’re actually smooth and can read girls you needn’t even talk to much more than 5 to 10 girls the whole night in order to find someone you have a shot with. Quality over quantity. If you’re doing some sorta flash in the pan approach like I’ve seen some guys resort to in insanely busy street party environment then yeah you may need to talk to a few more girls but 200 at that point is the video of that guy say “can I get your number” to every girl he passes. There ain’t even 200 girls pretty enough for sex that you’ll pass in most places in a week unless if you’re maybe in Eastern Europe which if you can’t pull there… lord help you.

I think there will ultimately be a sorta divide where a digital underclass emerges who wholey consume it, a quasi-class who are sorta tied to it consuming while also creating and earning a living, and people who left it entirely and outsourced the consuming and logistics to someone or something else (AI?). Kind like how organic vegetables used to just be food that you pulled out of the ground, but now they're seen as a luxury. You have the money and knowledge to opt out of cheap processed food. Attention I believe will go the same way. Watching reels is sorta the default right now, the cheap thing everyone consumes without thinking. It takes no energy to consume it, the opposite end would be reading a challenging book. So the next status marker on the app will ironically be not needing to scroll at all. Watching less will become how people express that they've made it in self improvement, the way a clean diet did. The people who made it will keep posting and stop watching. They'll outsource the scrolling to another person or an AI to watch for trends and pick their audio. They will never sit through another reel themselves. Producing without consuming becomes how you show you've made it vs now which is more about the content you're making showing a lifestyle and follower count. This will build on that where people will reach this finish line in various forms and basically laugh on a podcast saying they haven't used IG in a year, the same way they were yapping on podcasts they cut out seed oils, or whatever came before that. If you actually value your mind and your time, why feed it reels? The feed is essentially a giant commercial that never ends, we used to mute commercials when they came on the tv when I was growing up. what I see: accounts leading teenage boys towards porn, people dying on camera, strangers lying (everyone knows everyone is lying), doom scroll headlines, plastic surgery, 50% bots, for most people it keeps steering them back to whatever is most divisive because the outrage is what keeps you there. So my prediction is this, the endgame for the people who win on this platform will be a sort of nonchalant exit, quietly leaving. Exiting the feed entirely while still farming the attention of everyone who can't leave. They upload but don't consume. That's where I think it's headed. I give it 2-5 years.

We are going slightly off on a tangent here but I would say that your point assumes that endless reach automatically means better. I would say this is actually not always true, or at least not for what I am creating. Probably some of the best teachers I've met knew a certain level of growth was actually bad for them. Some of the best I know work with only a few, and knew that growth in this domain would actually hurt their message. The top bar of the hexagram in the I Ching, extreme outer boundary, The dragon flies so high into the heavens it gets lost. One loses touch with the ground. I do not want 3 billion people watching my videos. A video made for 3 billion people would lose the very spirit of the video I set out to make in the first place. I would be careful with this notion. It's in part what has made social media grow so much, it equally is what I believe waters the very root of my thread about why Instagram has become such a poisonous and disgusting place.

I don’t believe fear and social comparison should be used to shape your life and they definitely can never ever get you to reach your full potential as I understand full potential. Truth is what gets you to your full potential. Full potential is living authentically, in flow, freedom, oneness balanced with your responsibilities as a human being. I do not believe comparisons and fear (self punishment) will get you here. They may materially get you far but I do not consider that full potential.

Yeah it absolutely pushes naked women, I’ve gotten ads with AI porn and naked women. The app funnels young men, many underage, onto porn pages of onlyfans whores. It’s just annoying. The app is rapey, it doesn’t even ask you if you want this or give you any sort of choice or control just “LOOK NAKED LOOK SEX LOOK GET ANGRY.” It would be one thing if the app was engineered differently where you could choose this and close it off when you’ve had enough but it’s entire design down to the foundation isn’t this.

Yeah, it is really like smoking, it's maybe not the best comparison but it is similar. Constant timeouts for some bit of a high. It doesn't relax me at all yet it's the first thing I reach for after work. I work a lot and am under a lot of stress right now, I have to be careful with both food (sweets) and my phone for managing my energies. I am constantly seeing something disturbing on there or that is repulsive, something lustful like half naked women, no one talks to me in real life like they do on social media, and if they did they would end up best case ignored, worst case in a fist fight. Almost nothing on it is real. It's impossible to even clean it up and set it up so it's healthy, it's designed to always lead you back to scrolling and wound up because it's been engineered to constantly push people's buttons. it feeds comparisons and judgements. I have a theory that social media will largely become something a digital underclass is more engaged with while people who are financially successful and prioritizing their health and wellbeing no longer scroll or use the app much. Think about how health and wellness products became something associated with wealth, living in nature by the beach, not having to drive. Owning a car was once seen as a luxury, now no one wants to be in traffic breathing exhaust. I think the next stage in the social media evolution is a lot of the people at the top with resources just quietly shutting the app off, still posting on it some, maybe checking messages, but no longer a consumer on it, relying largely on their established network of friends and groups they joined, using AI agents and bots to automate a lot of the process of using it. People whose livelihood that is really entangled with it will have a harder time reaching this stage but those who set something up that is more passive in nature (passive income being the gold standard of success in the USA) you will see this crowd essentially say they no longer watch anything on it and just pay someone to upload their content with trending audio for them.

Fair enough, I would just encourage people to not treat is as a benign product that just comes down to how you handle it yourself. Just like alcohol or smoking, really no amount of it is healthy and we even have regulations in place. I would relate more to your point of view if social media was regulated and we had a clearer picture of how it affects people, but we are living in the dark ages of this and more and more research has began to prove how harmful IG is to teenagers. Look this up, it is where the bulk of the research is. It is incredibly harmful to young people's pscyhe. When I have a child I will never let them on social media. Look it up, meta is one of the most litigated companies on earth currently. I can see your hustle and mating strategy depends on it and it's really your only option other than hitting the bars so you will defend it, none of those factors tie me to it so I don't get any of those benefits and only junk fed to me. I mean, you already said yourself even you need to detox and take a break from it... so my overall point is until it's been really studied further and safety has been engineered into it, it should be framed as a product that is toxic for you even if in the process of using it you can build your brand and meet girls through it. Alcohol works wonders for meeting women, but in the long run it takes its tole.

I want to address what I call “the glue.” What I’ve noticed which holds it all together for many people is the idea they need to be on the app or else they will miss some important bit of information, current events or miss out on opportunities social or business. Instagram sells a lot of young people the dream they can become a sorta quasi influencer type if they reach enough followers and sell something, what is that something? Well for a lot of accounts I’ve come across it’s unclear to me… I think they’re selling a dream, or motivation on how to grow your socials. It’s just so circulars. You scroll and post on IG to grow your IG to the point you can eventually have other people scrolling for you where you tell them how to grow your IG... Apart from the multi level marketing crap there are some actual brands on there selling products, clothes, restaurants, tour guides, etc. If you’re self employed then IG is actually worth posting on. It’s sorta like one big commercial though. I remember we used to mute the tv during commercials. Reels is filled with ads and it’s not as simple as muting. I work a lot so doom scrolling is something I’ve had an issue with. It is a very easy was to sorta “relax” after and between work. It’s kinda like taking constant smoke breaks. I’m testing this myself now at 35. I could see it being a lot harder to not be on this app if I was single in my twenties. If I was ten years younger I’d probably have a much harder time being off it. The thing is I still need to be sometimes posting on it which I plan to continue to do. Even after detoxing and getting off the consuming side I still need to feed the beast, it’s just reality now.

This is maybe the one thing of value I won’t have anymore. There’s some decent recommendations for like restaurants and shops. I’ll have to lean on word of mouth more now but even that opens up more for me just by virtue of talking to people. You see? You trade the convenience for earned experience.

You have to put basically no effort into women if you clear the bar in their mind if you are in their fuckzone or not. Effort and pandering is what guys do for women they aren’t able to pull. This is what I’ve been saying here. She knows if she wants to fuck you in 15 minutes after meeting you. The rest is you dancing like a monkey for her enjoyment OR getting out of your own way so you don’t sabotage it and kill her attraction for you. What women say they want “effort, men doing everything, etc” is very different from reality, that effort they only want from guys in the fuckzone and even then too much of it gives too much of your power away and kills the sexual tension. Your batting average is the girls you can pull and what women make it easy for you to sleep with them. Rarely a girl may give pity sex if like they’re broke and you’re always there for them but it’s not a route to lean on or the way to go.