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Easily the tip of it too. I'm sure any sleuth could gather at least thousands of messages sent by him and all the old group chats, archived twitter responses, the courses and videos they sold, even the accounts of all the cam girls and whatnot. He is royally fucked if any of them were underage too and he had them produce adult content. Also keep in mind even if Trump blocks this extradition, when a new president or dem gets in and Uk requests again the process starts over. This is not something he can be magically pardoned for in the USA. Just temporarily halted.

Of course he is gonna try. MAGA is not sustainable in the long run. It's been over ten years. I think we have more years behind us of MAGA than ahead of us, but the torch of the same populist anti-democracy shite could be taken over by someone else.

Yeah but I don't see his point saying that. He's just listing off ways back to oneness. I don't see him saying you need to "perpetually be healing." He just lists off stuff that most people have probably have been shaped by to some degree.

I’m very absolutist from my beliefs and experiences. Life has shown me women are largely predetermined. They perceive you and pick you. You ain’t changing shit about them. You show up and they have already decided and pegged you where you’re at and you move the needle really only by your looks, status and lifestyle. You know within 5-15 mins if you’re in the fuck zone or not and all game does at that point is removes everything in your way from you getting her to the bed or fucking the situation up and getting her to change her mind which is what a lot of guys end up doing. I do not believe you can flip women from a no to a yes. They already have you pegged 5-10 mins after meeting you, sometimes within seconds. Ever got cold eyes when sitting next to a woman in a cafe that seem to not even notice your existence? They aren’t interested in you. You ain’t switching a no to a yes? It happens but it’s exceptionally rare and not worth the efforts

There are positives and negatives to the showing intent and wearing your heart on your sleeve. To be honest I’m impartial to this approach because to me if I was in the game still meeting new women the forward approach 1) sorta gives me a bit more certainty. I do agree that the uncertainty and ambiguity is where a ton of sexual tension lies. Simultaneously it’s also just emotionally laborious for me to sit with uncertainty and I’ve found it’s better to lean more on my physical looks and status and play up the serendipity. It’s just what I enjoy and I don’t believe leaning into my weaknesses and draining approaches is the right idea. There is this notion that you need to always be pushing your edge and making yourself uncomfortable but that doesn’t make sense to me. Why should I feel uncomfortable when socializing and meeting women should be fun? So I’d rather leave a lay or two on the table if it means screen out heavy mind games and putting energy into social situations that are a bit harder for me to read. I’m by no means saying throw all subtly out. A subtle approach and not being so damn direct is key. I’m not so autistic that I can only understand a yes or no. I’m just saying that I know my strengths and weaknesses and I’d lean into subtly but communicate it pretty clearly through honest signals. You can clearly tell if a woman likes you by her body language. I don’t see any point in flipping a woman who is not that interested over to a yes. If that isn’t enough for a woman then I see that as redirection so someone who already perceives me as top. In many ways I’d rather filter and lean into girls who I already can see perceive me as sex god.

The comparison to gravity though I don’t think is helpful. It frames you as a victim being effect by an external source out of your control and as if emotions are not something you are able to actively shape and choose to create by what you believe. This is not me ignoring the nuance of it or downplaying when people feel bad about the very hard things they encounter in life. I say this with compassion. I am not saying that feeling grief or pain when something unfortunate happens in life is wrong. I do believe that we are responsible for our life and our emotions and that a lot of what we feel that is uncomfortable can be let go. I don’t think it’s all about transcending, in a weird way I don’t think that is how it works. Transcending is embracing what is true always even if it hurts a little and living it moment to moment, it’s not just deleting something entirely, but it can be. I think it’s something let go when conscious enough however we choose to come back to the familiar.

I think that is what most guys end up with because they realize it’s unsustainable going out all the time and putting in energy to meet new women. But I think most start out with high aspirations and fantasies of getting laid all the time.

Comparability implies commitment which I think most guys doing pick up are just trying to get laid. You can find a gf through night game but you won’t know you’re compatible until you’ve been together for a bit.

To be honest clavicer (sp?) has probably one of the better setups for an autistic introvert with shite game. Status and looks and lifestyle. That does all his lifting and I’m sure he pulls from it. To be astroturfed into stardom by Peter Theil 😕🥴

It’s absolutely frightening as well at how much socializing many women are able to do. What I mean is that for many women going out with friends and to clubs and bars and to the beach and meeting new people is literally effortless. They aren’t drained by it and they get lots of attention and drinks and support from social circle and going out and have a group of friends a week after landing in a new city. This comes with its own problems though (constant drama and falling outs). For introverted men it feels like a fucking war, nothing about it comes natural to me and it is an absolute chore to go out like this to socialize.

I agree. It’s nice having friends but there’s no guarantee you’ll have a flow of hot girls coming through, you may also burn it down if you move on one and they don’t like you. If you want that you need to go out often too (2-3 nights minimum a week easily). You need to join run clubs and typical social events that young women go to in cities like LA and Miami. It’s a ton of socializing and it’s really only going to be rewarding for extroverted men. Trying to force extroversion as an introvert is not wise. You can absolutely kill it if you are an extroverted man in good shape at a run club. Ideally the best set up for getting similar results as an introverted man is really raising your status, looks and social media and then leveraging that for online game in more introverted European countries. Lifestyle is much better for introverted men and making different things do more of the heavy lifting over raw socializing.

Owen has a one size fits all approach that is good for guys starting out. You’re nervous and awkward and need a hypeman to tell you it’s possible to pull a baddie. That alone is very empowering and can lead to results. I never really saw any point debating the nuance and various refinements of pick up artistry. It’s difficult to even measure and compare success and there’s a million factors at play you can attribute things to. Obviously guys look at raw number of pulls and beauty but even then most students don’t have any desire to sleep with 500 women and go out 4 nights a week for a decade. They just want to get their needs met and sleep with beautiful women which you can with just about any approach. Obviously you’re leaving lays on the table based a lot off of your status, looks and lifestyle. Normies in Vegas game is a different beast and probably requires all the refinement since it’s so competitive and raw. You can have absolute shit game in some countries and cities by the beach and just be chill enough to not fuck it up and pull based on being handsome.

I think sex does actually lose a bit of its excitement once it’s easy to get. Especially once you’re married too. You can be married to a beautiful woman like I am and the sex becomes less exciting. Because usually what drives us, novelty and mystery, sorta deflates some when you get married. Your love evolves more into family love. In order to keep the spark you have to sort of keep working at it and putting some energy into keeping it novel and also opening yourself to more love based forms of sex over passion. Having tons of different women can keep the intrigue and novelty going and can be very exciting but the issue is it’s largely driven by hormones and beliefs we were told that we need more women or else we ar missing out. When you see through this belief and your hormones age out a bit sex doesn’t matter as much. And sometimes this is a bit of a grieving process or sitting with fomo beliefs and beliefs about lack how you believe you need more sex to be whole. Kids aren’t just about survival. It’s about being the creator in human form. And creation = love. So having kids consciously is a form of conscious love and creation. So kids aren’t not just about survival but anything that exists in reality will have responsibilities and yeah if you do not want to be responsible for kids and their wellbeing and upbringing (which can take a lot of time and energy and material resource which could be devoted to other things) then deciding not to have children isn’t a bad idea. I don’t believe you need to have kids in order to live a good and fulfilling life where you walk an authentic path and meet destiny. I just offer another perspective on them. Kids aren’t just an appendage. A lot of people grow a lot in heart from having kids.

Anyone here have any of their old courses or were part of the war room or followed his twitter back in 2017? I remember seeing his twitter back in 2017 and he basically was bragging about being a human trafficker in Romania running sex cam rooms. He wrote about it so extensively and prolifically online and bragged about raping and forcing Romanian women to cam for him against their will. He shared so much of it it’s impossible to scrub from the internet but I remember seeing him in 2017 and he was trying to align with the pick up community and sell courses to them. He even has an interview with the PUA that Leo collaborated with lol.

Ouch 😬 You can only get so many favors. Donald is trying to take care of his own and has his mess in Israel to worry about. He’s not gonna pull strings for someone he doesn’t know and he’s trying to stay as far away from rape allegations as possible. Epstein files is something he can’t shake.

Explain how he is not please

I mean most people are living dishonestly and reactively from the beliefs they hold, formed from what they were taught and the experiences they had and how they were told to handle them. You can label that trauma or whatever you want but it’s the truth of the world. Most people are not living from spirit so really any deviation from spirit into illusion can be categorized as trauma once it becomes emotionally disruptive. Many people have a terrible time with their emotions and creating peace for themselves. The tweet is new age and a bit corny and doesn’t read like something someone who is really mature would write but he’s overall right.

People excel at different things. IQ measures intelligence in just a certain way, disregarding all the other gifts we have and expressions we are capable of. You don't judge people by one test nor their potential or the value of their life. There are people who are physically disabled but very smart and would do awful surviving in the jungle and there are athletes with many accomplishments who can barely read at a 4th grade level. Obviously someone with a lower IQ won't be able to do math just as a person in a wheelchair won't squat 500ibs just as a slightly psychopathic surgeon won't ever be able to love his children as warmly as your sweetheart of a mother.

Yeah, I do agree if he goes to the UK that the chances go up that he is seriously fucked. I am no legal expert and I've only done some research with Claude. I'm just saying there is a possibility that the machinery could get clogged with all the moving parts. Also going to trial vs actually getting convictions. I know this case (with what we know at least) depends a good amount on testimony so if those fade it could be hard to convict him.

lol looks like the trump admin may throw them under the bus

You answered it yourself. Realization. Embracing the mystery. Full acceptance of being whole as you are. Belief. You saw through your beliefs of needing x or y to be whole and saw it as false

Clothing, starting a clothing brand, starting a social media clothing influencer brand that’s built around fitness or running, flying to China to buy cheap clothes and label it as “your brand”

The thing is though it hinges on what happens in Romania to a degree. I believe the uk said they wouldn’t put him on trial until Romania finishes theirs. And if it never makes it to trial in Romania that could affect how the uk proceeds and how the machine goes forward with this.

I did some research and read this whole case may not make it to trial. Romanian investigators apparently aren’t great at dealing with high profile cases. So there’s so much issues in the bureaucratic machine that it’s difficult for this to even make it to trial anytime soon, even though there is a ton of evidence, testimonies and proof of their crimes.

I read Models by Mark Manson and it is an ok book. It was sorta an alt path to game many years ago. Manson’s approach relies more on authenticity and and a sort of “be yourself” perspective which some guys aren’t able to garner much from because they need something more action oriented. Some people just don’t relate to or find helpful what’s being said. Anyways I find Manson to be sorta boring and yeah he isn’t someone I feel drawn towards learning from. His one book was enough for me. His not giving a fuck book I started but was boring and didn’t bother finishing. On the other hand the red pill guys generally speaking are losers. Losers and the few at the top are able to grift their loser fanbase for a ton of cash.