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Financially I have a large amount of savings so I can treat this as a sort of project. I was just wondering if anyone here had already gotten in on it or was dabbling in this field. I'm not sure how much money it potentially will make. It really is still very much far away from being offered on the market. I could see a a number of centers set up in the future offering these treatments but that is still a ways off.

Has any one here invested in this sector ? I think it is a good place to possibly invest in and see what it grows to in 10-20 years. Not sure where to get started and how to. Have any of you found ways to buy stocks or investment in early companies forming this new industry?

cause and effect is true on a relative level. it is second order so to speak. on an absolute level it fades away.

They weren’t his roadhouse. The guy couldn’t even lead his cult/community properly.

Wonder if republicans are going to support a two year long congressional investigation into this like they did Benghazi

For some reason I'm not sold on electric cars currently. They will most def one day take over but I don't see it for a long, long time. Tesla is currently more a status symbol and luxury car brand I'd say rather than an industry standard.

Yes I'm aware that conventional investment in index funds and bonds would bring safe returns but that is not what this thread is about. I'm not talking about saving for retirement or building your standard brokerage account here. This is a speculative venture capital endeavor in what is going to eventually be a standard mental health treatment for PTSD, serious addiction and several mental health issues. I actually disagree with some of what you are saying because you seem to miss the point about what is being invested in here. These medicines are part of the future of the mental health industry. How that translates towards profit isn't quite clear yet but there is money to be made here. Psychedelics won't be administered like usual pharmaceuticals on a daily basis so you are right that a continued return won't be based off of patients taking psychedelics daily. That misses the point of what is being invested in here though. I'm well aware of this. What is being developed by these companies is a facilitated procedure of administering psychedelics in a therapeutic setting, usually a limited number of times, and follow up therapy afterwards. Similar to a torn muscle surgery that then requires physical therapy afterwards. How much it will cost to undergo this treatment will likely be fairly expensive and will require centers set up specifically trained to do such procedures. You're missing the point if you see investing in psychedelics as faulty because it isn't based around a patented medicinal formula developed by a pharmaceutical company that expects to see regular returns on prescriptions filled. That is not what is primarily being invested in here. What's being invested in here are companies that are developing approved ways of facilitating psychedelics in a therapeutic setting and the follow up therapy afterwards. In terms of regulation I do agree. Few companies have FDA approval to run trials and develop therapeutic procedures with backing data. This is just a matter of time. There is some big money, big names and universities backing current trials on administering psychedelics under therapeutic settings. It's simply a matter of time for enough data to be compiled and approved procedures/treatment processes to be developed before regulations are adjusted for these procedures to be held at centers set up properly to do them. We already have one state that decriminalized magic mushrooms. Before more of this happens and these substances find their way into developed/facilitated treatment procedures there will have to be more backing from the mental health industry (by that I mean the academics, researchers, universities and academic journals). The mental health industry and its investors will have to get on board to lobby for these government changes which is the next step from where we are now. The mental health industry are currently a buzz with talks and papers being published in their journals about MDMA therapy and psilocybin therapy. MDMA therapy is not only just being trialed in the US but also in the EU and Israel. I occasionally take a look at clinical discourse and academic journals and it is a hot topic being discussed. You do make a good point in regards to insurance companies. As of now insurance companies in the US don't often cover mental health treatment comprehensively so this may be a big barrier from the general public having access to these treatments. Also since it is new and perhaps viewed as unconventional when it starts to be administered in centers across the country it may not be accounted for in many people's insurance plans. If it is shown to be incredibly effective though and save money compared to a patient being put on a pharmaceutical indefinitely then it may become more widely covered by insurance plans if it saves them money. That is very much the point of these therapies. To treat the root so long term treatment is not required. How that translates financially though compared to an indefinite pharmaceutical prescription is currently not clear. These treatments are likely going to be taken by the well to do during their first several years on the market like most expensive medical breakthroughs. Those who have done Psychedelics and are familiar with what is being developed here know it isn't a matter of if but rather when. When will Psychedelic assisted therapy become conventional, government approved, and have treatment centers set up across countries? I really can't speak on that specifically as it is currently unknown.

I'm guessing they will purchase the Russian vaccine

Rogan is a back ally hooker. The guy will have literally anyone on his podcast as long as they bring ratings or fit his sort of macho anti-pc vibe.

I haven't seen too much of his stuff even though I've been subbed to him for a while. Gonna check out more of his videos.

Jp isn’t funny. He’s a conservative dog whistle.

Why the sudden shift ? He seems shook in the second video. Either one of his family members talked him down or ? Really confused by this.

That is true but that is the case with any early venture. Investing in it thus requires keeping a sharp and consistent ear to the ground as it develops, holistic research and weighted choices in how to financially distribute funds across the sector.

@Raptorsin7 I did a bit of research and found out there are some Canadian, US and UK companies which are conducting research on Mushrooms, LSD, MDMA and other substances. They are backed by some pretty big cash and venture capitalists and several of them do have licenses from the FDA to conduct trials and tests with these substances and develop them for therapeutic use. It's still all very much in its infancy but I will continue to do more research. Some of them do offer publicly traded stocks. I'm looking to invest and this is truly a long erm investment. I don't think this industry will really take off for another ten years or so. I'm trying to get in on it really early while I have a good amount of savings and some money to invest.

Apparently a police officer that got hit in the head by one of the rioters yesterday has been pronounced dead after being taken off life support.

Why do we have to handle her with kid gloves? It sounds like all personal responsibility of hers for the situation she put herself in is being taken away. I think she was a potentially violent radical willing to destroy the democratic process which keeps our country from becoming some form of authoritarian ethnocentric regime. If this was a Muslim people many would say they were a terrorist. I’m tired of MAGA lunatics being painted as some some misguided gullible bunch that otherwise would be benevolent. These are dangerous radicals.

seems like we have no recourse against all the shit trump has done. if it all comes down to some tax fraud trial in NY then we really can only focus on the future and look to limit presidential privileges and focus on the loop holes trump exposed. surely a biden justice department will have the balls to do some investigations and see what they can charge him with. not sure there is anything or how it would go in the courts.

I think the best we can hope for then is some reforming of what privileges the president has while holding office. It really all just comes down to norms and traditions established where the president conducts himself in a way not to overstep such boundaries. Trump exposed all of that.

I'm not familiar with the ins and outs of what laws and statutes may apply to presidential behavior. I don't think there are many laws which covers the presidency and much of what is taking place here has never even been tested in court before. I'm not looking for vengeance but I think letting this go unpunished will have some serious consequences for the democracy. I'm wondering if any prosecutors or the justice department will be able to bring a case against trump for inciting this riot. Or perhaps this will lead to future laws being passed such as further checks on the president.

Will trump face any sort of legal consequences for this ?

I love accessing the darkness. Techno music in the dark with good headphones can really activate a shiva awakening of sorts if you are spiritually sensitive to the auditory.

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