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The best place to start for newbies is books. Go on amazon or audible and read all the self help classics and top rated books in a specific domain. They are cheap and hold all the fundamentals. Very little unique information to be found in most self help video courses that are incredibly expensive. That money is better spent going towards a very specific skill or class or retreat or therapy.

I'm not in denial. I've just given it more thought than you have. You're making the typical false equivalency most people make who think they know anything about politics. You probably believe in conspiracy theories too. Bill Bar is not an example of deep political contemplation, he is a comedian. Expand your information intake and start reading books. You would be singing a different tune if you were a child born in Mexico with immigrant parents or invested in climate change or a low income person heavily reliant on Obamacare, list goes on.

a poor distinction. actually look up the policy put into play during these two administrations and how they affected people. I'm not going to educate you out of your "both sides" stance a lot of fake woke hippies who haven't actually contemplated or done much research on this domain claim.

first message, what girls say they want... then they get it and all of a sudden they aren't interested second comment, what attracts girls but then leaves confusion for guys ok my last gender wars comment

Center right compared to a lot of European countries Quite liberal compared to most other countries.

So I am doing a bit of contemplation and it seems like homelessness is a systemic issue that is not overcome when there is a stage green majority. Certain societal issues seem to become less prevalent the higher up on the spiral but it doesn't seem like this issue is really solved at green. Perhaps more citizens need to become green in order to solve this issue in California? California is pretty green but also there is a lot of orange there as well. Each systemic issue is unique so I don't think it solely comes down to the spiral level. Is this a case study of the limits of green or is California not green enough to solve it?

Call me shallow but I would choose as a partner any day of the week a woman whose physical beautify far exceeds my preferences/standards but has some healing to do and causes some friction between us on a regular basis over a really conscious woman that just barely meets my own personal preferences/standards. Seems like most women would do the same with a strong/confident man vs a meek man.

I do agree there is a difference between the two but on the contrary you could switch out big tits with physical preferences and if that is absent then from the masculine's perspective there will be no desire to contain her in the first place. I think it's a prerequisite as well. I don't desire to contain or bring out the feminine in any woman but one that I find physically attractive. It plays just as big a role even if they are different parts of the process.

Well, not every woman that is for sure. But some women may be attracted to the dominating qualities a bully has. It's sort of a low quality toxic version of strength but strength none the less. Also, I was not there at your social situation so it may have just been interpreted as some light hearted teasing or a funny situation. Not trying to gaslight you. You're justified in feeling the way you did. Sometimes people can say pretty nasty stuff to each other. Just saying others could have seen it differently if it wasn't directly blatant bullying so don't draw wide conclusions that all women will laugh or find this attractive.

Can you say in a few sentences or less what exactly women are attracted to in men?

This is pretty much exactly what Leo mentioned in that same post earlier about how "they get offended and call men gross and shallow and sexist for wanting it." The word shallow is what I'm talking about here. I don't care if I'm labeled shallow. It's what I desire and I'm not going to settle on anything less than a physically beautiful woman. I only want a girlfriend that has an amazing body, cute face and fits for the most part towards my physical preferences in women (fit body, nice ass, long healthy hair, tan, etc). Nothing wrong with that and it's just the other side of the coin to woman saying they want a confident man.

stop with the false equivalencies

I think CA attracts a lot of homeless there as well cause of the weather and liberal culture. I heard that they had some homeless people find their way there cause they would freeze to death if they stayed in some shitty mid-west state. It's really visible though. I wonder why you don't see it as much in NYC for instance. It is there for sure in NYC but it just doesn't stand out like it does in LA. Are there more homeless in LA in general and how do they define homeless as well? What percentage are locals that fell on hard times due to addiction and prices? I know some "traveling kids", those sort of counter culture hippies that play music on the street and are on drugs maybe get counted in the group when they are more so choosing or pretending to be homeless. California just is the perfect place to be homeless too. It's expensive and if you have issues and end up on the street you will be relatively okay compared to some other places where the police will beat you and kick you out of the warm subway during the dead of winter.

so you had sex with a granny?

this is getting posted often on here. it's really insightful and helpful.

Leave it to men to blame women for not spreading their legs for them and starting wars cause of it ok I made my one simp post But for real though, I think guys sometimes see the less desirable and unfair aspects of dating when they start trying to improve at it and maximize their chances with their most desirable partner and take on a sort of negative confirmation bias about how the entire domain is. yeah, some pretty perplexing stuff does happen sometimes where you feel like you were being vulnerable and she took it as weakness and was turned off. I don't even see any point in trying to understand it. It is a lot for one person to understand... yet alone this thread where plenty of people are trying to make sense of it lol. I think the best thing you can do as a man is just focus on yourself and create and create and create as much as possible the best qualities you want to experience in yourself and often times naturally this will attract your most desired partner.

hmmm yeah good point. it can be a little tricky though cause passion can be so powerful that I just get sucked in and then am a little worried about seeming weak and turning her off.

Attunement leads to understanding and is a goal of it but I think a man also has to be careful to not get sucked in when trying to understand, becoming ungrounded. I've done this before with becoming overly agreeable or trying to solve her problems. Understanding should not come at the cost of the man maintaining himself and I think a lot of guys make this mistake and thus fear being "simps."

I think what @Emerald is describing is to be attune. I differ with having to understand her being required. I think it's more so about listening and acknowledging how she feels to the best of your ability. You don't have to get pulled in necessarily or even fully understand, just listen. I think guys fear this cause they can get sucked in and start becoming servile. I don't think you have to do that to be a good listener.

Doubt I'll see this in my lifetime but you never know. It's going to start with an overhaul of social security in the US. My generation, millennial, is gonna be near broke or have very little come retirement age. In 40 years I don't know what society is going to do about the massive amounts of elderly with almost no savings. I hope by then healthcare has been expanded and comprehensive including medications. Elderly currently get Medicaid which is decent and we see this system being advocated for expansion to other groups and universally. I'm guessing some sort of UBI system will start with the huge amount of poor elderly and will then be expanded eventually universally, think 100 years from now.

Hmm okay, interesting. Yeah I’m starting to see this not necessarily a green issue but still orange at play here. I just wonder if this problem is mostly solved when green has a strong footing or if it still is prevalent. If anything it seems like green handles it better and more compassionately even if it doesn’t solve it. They will hand out food and offer medical care services that drive around. I know in blue society they basically will bulldoze them away and let them freeze in winter.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I noticed a lot of really feminine girls spin this sort of love fairy tale about how her man magically fell in love with her, etc when from my perspective it seems like her guy was just on the hunt and sort of made things happen. Why doe girls sort of spin this fairy tales around this? take this conversation I was having with a friend (open image in new tab). basically this guy broke her heart a few years ago that was a player and she went on a sort of reckless sex filled spree after of partying. apparently he still texts her. is this just passion? it doesn't really seem like a sturdy form of a relationship.

they sure are to me

So you have any advice how a man can navigate a woman’s desire to do this, allow her to experience this, but also not get sucked in or overly indulge her or manipulate her when she feels like this? Does it just sort of have a natural design to it that if you are a man with healthy grounding, good faith and good self esteem you won’t get overly sucked in?

oh yeah, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. I just think a nice balance is needed so one doesn't get so wrapped up and attached to these notions that when the eventual heart break occurs jadedness and resentment sets in. I think of it sort of like a healthy diet. Some cake and candy sweetens it but you can't just eat that to stay healthy.