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I wish I could get it sooner. Wish the rollout would speed up. I'm in the last group eligible for it since I have no health problems and am in my 20s.

Yeah, I noticed the dynamic is just different these days in the US. I’m assuming this statistic is from the US? Dating is kinda strange in the US rn. The masculine/feminine dynamic is odd and the women just don’t seem that interested in men in general and men seem to sort of act the same. Just this weird neutral dynamic where men don’t pursue like they used to and women seem more on guard for their safety. I’m comparing this to what I’ve seen in other countries. The dynamic definitely feels different in the US compared to other places. People ofc are still dating but I wonder why it seems like a lot of guys are having problems? It’s apparently gonna be a huge epidemic in China and India where there are more guys than girls. In the USA it’s at least even.

I've noticed this myself and then I saw someone in a post effectively say this yellow admires blue green admires green orange admires red blue admires purple red admires orange I've noticed in my own introspection that I find healthy blue to be incredibly interesting and aspiring. Anyone else notice these trends?

It's more so my own grief surfacing and anger I've been holding onto. I'm feeling a bit better now but lets see how it goes.

The entire country was originally colonized, pillaged and overtaken with guns. That conqueror don't tread on me bullshit has permeated the culture ever since.

if you're dreaming a human body you're dreaming all the physical laws as well since they basically collapse together with the very notion of there being a limited human body that can and cannot do stuff. Wanna float or fly, learn to astral project.

Yeah that is sorta why I wrote this thread. It made me feel better and understand how I'm feeling more. I'm focusing on whatever comes up and feeling it. This whole thing is making me feel incredibly angry, jealous and like I'm not attractive or good enough so I'm just noticing that come up and feeling it fully and express itself w/o getting carried away. thanks @Preety_India

I agree. This thread seems like a pity party I'm just exhausted of this weird dynamic and it feels like they are playing mind games with me or using me for some sort of approval sometimes. I can't say I'm innocent here. I've gotten a feeling of not being alone when lonely and having them to talk to but I just don't se this going anywhere and after the first time we fought I'm not interested in doing it a second time.

I feel I'm being a little toxic now but at the same time this is what feels most authentic to me and I'm tired of handling things between us with kid gloves. It's annoying and fake. I really don't care if it confuses them. Not my problem if they can't take a hint or have some degree of understanding of what's going on or why I would feel hurt. I need to take care of myself first. There is just something at it's root deeply dishonest about this relationship if I told her I like her and I'm talking to her cause part of me is holding out for something to happen between us. I don't want to have to deal with her drama getting pissy cause I don't wanna talk to her. She was so dense the last time she couldn't take a fucking hint when I wasn't replying to her messages daily that obviously talking to her would no longer be my top priority. This time whatever. It's over and it's time to move on for me.

yes, I'm 1200. trying to get to 2000 one day.

I don't think that's true. Sometimes it feels this way when life gets hard and relationships don't work out. We can get sort of locked into focusing on negative patterns and get caught up in these illusions.

The "ego is the enemy approach" often cuts people off from awakening to unconditional love. Maybe it works and resonates for some people to get them to a certain point but I've noticed the people that preach it sort of have a rigidity to them and a poor level of systems, holism and integrative thinking when it comes to spiritual modalities. I outgrew the enemy ego stuff a few years ago and it lead to much deeper growth for me.

Gay men play game A just as much as everyone else lol. They have their own jargon and use the same rating system and are screening and judging their options and playing the field just as much as the next person. Being gay doesn't mean you are playing a different game. We are just more open and accepting and allowing people to play game A to fulfill desires we didn't used to allow be fulfilled. Like I said I'll read the thread a second time but all I see is you stating your green values and preferences for a partner and labeling it as something different than what the rest are doing when it's fundamentally the same, just different values and preferences. The logic behind your game b follows the same classic green trope actually where they think all is love if we just put the guns and nukes down and come together lol. You haven't solved game A which you are intrenched in.

I will take a second look through the thread to see if anything changes my mind but I'm really not seeing anything in here besides dressing up / interpreting classic game A survival in a way that makes it seem more appealing and in line with your own personal values and desires. This is an important part of survival. Putting it into context. I still only see in this thread a discussion on game A with the willingness to play it consciously and focus less on stuff stage orange people like vs green.

@Preety_India I just don’t see many points in your distinctions for what game b is. You said yourself you don’t really have a fixed vision for it. Game B isn't a thing. Just as not having to survive doesn’t exist for something that is living. You are still playing game A in all your posts. You are just listing compromises and preferences for what you want in a relationship and your willingness to not have to unconsciously manipulate and scheme for them. There is only game A. Playing it consciously though is a choice and I agree with this.

there isn't one, just as there isn't one to working for money or taking a shower/bath to clean yourself. When you find solutions to those let me know. Game B is wherever those are.

Also stage green is playing game A just as much as the other tiers. Don't kid yourself or think this is something which reaches holism higher on the spiral. They just value different stuff. A nice car, luxury watch and a ruthless go getter work ethic will impress a pretty orange girl working in finance. A beautiful house in nature, a successful business selling smoothies that gives 5% to charity and a healthy masculine guy not afraid to express his feminine a bit will get the beautiful green yoga teacher. These are just some male examples, there are ofc ones for women and LGBTQ, etc.

They see excitement in obtaining the relationships, sex, intimacy and all the benefits of having a relationship and it's worth playing game A for it. Basically a large part of this thread can be reduced to "I wish I could get all the benefits of this domain but not have to do anything for it or face that challenges that arise from it." That's basically what pondering game b is. Maybe one day society will be so conscious this changes just like people not having to work much cause society as a whole has gotten rid of scarcity. Not gonna happen anytime soon or even in my lifetime.

No one wants A. Just as no one wishes they had to work or take care of themselves or put in survival work. It is a requirement however as a finite life unless you wish to fall apart and go through something worse than up-keeping your survival.

The question of the thread is : Lets discuss how you want Game B dating to look like? The thing is contemplating these things is interesting and does lead to some insights but let's be honest.... no one is playing game b... you're a fool if you think cause you are wanting to play this game others will automatically as well. Also a tremendous amount of self bias thinking you yourself even know how to play game B or if you are secertly still playing game A. You're going to be the odd one out of the group holding the game controller sitting alone at the tv while the rest of the kids put their's down to go outside and play tag. In fact they never even came inside on your invitation to play. If you think you can go out into the world and everyone is conscious enough to be thinking about game b you are fooling yourself. The majority of people are playing game A, especially in this domain. There are game B people for sure but you have a better chance finding fulfillment playing game A consciously and not being a downright manipulative devil than trying to contemplate what isn't. Thinking about stuff like this expecting it to go how you wish is just bypassing what is : Game A aka all is fair in love and war.

After pondering this for a bit... I disagree. Just about everyone has it hard. Guy, girl, LGBTQ, asexual, etc. Some have it noticeably worse due to some sort of extreme circumstances but this is classic survival. People who have it better will just be playing a more advanced survival game. There are other challenges that arise beyond just getting a date. I really don't care about how hard other people have it. It's hard enough as it is for me. All I can do is try to better my situation and do so consciously without falling into "all is fair in love and war." That in and of itself is a challenge and most people have yet to even fulfill this.

This is what the mafia will do to you Basically several thugs in the government got together and murdered someone and stole 200 million dollars in taxes. Since the government and mafia are basically fused together there are no checks or justice for something like this if enough of higher ups are in on it. People think Putin has supreme power inside Russia but that actually isn’t true. Far from it. He has more power in foreign affairs than domestic. He is more like the leader of his own faction/group which is considered superior and the leader of all the other factions/groups bellow it. This allows for stability in a country that doesn’t have institutional stability or a solid rule of law. This does require that he has compliance from these groups to keep his as the leader so the power distribution domestically is actually quite spread out since to keep compliance it requires bargaining with the other groups bellow his. This is why you won’t see any oversight in Russia. Often times these groups will bargain for get out of jail free cards. This is how corruption works. its kinda funny when a lower level person gets sent to jail for corruption. A couple years ago some higher level government guy working for the state owned railroad there had his own little scheme going and took like 2 million dollars and got sent to jail for corruption. Guess he didn’t have enough support by the various mafia factions in the government. Keep in mind there is also infighting between the various factions and it is a dynamic system with bartering and allegiances. It really is the Wild West so to speak. Russia is blue but many in government are/were red. Since a ton of money owned by theses mafia factions has been frozen they have been sort of stifled and weakened in the west. Since they have got their bag from plundering I think a lot of them are now trying to transition to blue through nationalism.

I'm hurting right now a lot and feeling sort of the same way after a girl I like went quiet on some plans she expressed interest in with me only to find that she now wants to do them with another guy. It's a similar feeling of rejection and being used and not feeling like you are enough or worthy. I think the signs are there sometimes with certain people. You can sort of get an idea of the type of person who will make you feel this way but it's trickier than that since often we give the benefit of the doubt to people and emotions can get wrapped up in it. I don't think neurotically obsessing about ways to avoid it is healthy. That can lead to a closing down from fear of everyone potentially doing it and missing out on all the opportunities life presents. I don't think it is something that can be simply reduced down to knowing how to avoid it vs not. I think having a more a holistically understanding relationship with the domain of relationships will tend to lead to more fulfillment in this domain and less occurrences of this happening. A keener awareness of the signs of this happening and just not overly investing when they pop up. Sometimes this happens out of nowhere and it hurt and we just have to feel the pain and give ourselves compassion and care. I'm writing this partially to you and myself as well. It hurts a lot for me cause it triggers this feeling like I'm flawed and I am not good enough. Have you learned anything from going through this?