Lyubov

The USA left makes little room for men and masculinity. The best you can hope for is to caucus with the left and sit as a centrist or center left and you will still be shit on by these leftists and called a racist. It’s been turned into a “safe space.” stage green in the USA is a mess.

He’s paranoid and doesn’t trust his own people

I know it’s corrupt there, but I know it’s better there than it used to be because the EU has standards for it’s members and there is an effort from both Brussels and Romania to clean up corruption in Eastern Europe. Especially since the war started a lot more power and attention is being brought to that region and we are seeing a much stronger political alignment in that region with western democracy over corrupt mafia rule the east is used to there. By the way I’d love to visit your country. I heard it’s fun there and there is some good night life and great people. Also Transylvania is great to see and the history.

I don’t think that’s the primary force behind his arrest though but it’s a nice consequence of all this. I think Romania is trying to shake the corrupt Eastern European country look and their rule of law there is much stronger now. I’m glad the EU holds their member states accountable to uphold lawful standards. Tate is not actually very clever. If he was he would of kept off social media and been fine for years to come running his shady sex trafficking operations. Sometimes I wonder how much easier the survival and comfort part of my life would be if I threw all ethics out and ignored my heart and got into some sort of scam buisness or selling some sort of vice because it seems like it’s so much easier to lie to a million dollars than creating actual value that contributes to the well-being of everyone.

I’m still kinda surprised this thread is as long as it is and this guy went as viral as he did. I remember hearing about him years ago and he was a nobody with almost no following and just flexing online from all the women he rape sand enslaved and I never thought he was special in any way in terms of charisma or what he had to say. I think the outrage factor and left wingers like Hasan platforming him made him big. Left wing social media loves the clicks they get for platforming these guys. they are not above rolling with pigs in shit and have some responsibility in what they platform. A lot of red pillers have kept the quiet part quiet. They will take the convo up to a point but won’t escalate or just blurt out it’s ok to rape women like Tate does. Anyone remember Roosh V he basically had the same outrage factor as Tate but was a broke PUA who made all his money from books sold on Amazon. As soon as he went viral his books were removed and he went broke. Would actually be funny if this trial basically made Tate broke and him in his brother get out of jail in some years broke. Thing is I think he laundered his money to Dubai so he probably has some stashed away.

Too loose and you will really feel it when you’re broke Too tight, you might have some stability but you will probably miss out on some beautiful experience and some worth while purchases that will genuinely improve your life. Balance, like what’s already been mentioned. And also make mistakes and learn from them. Do not be afraid to make mistakes. We learn from mistakes.

Agreed, Tate will forever be “the guy who never seen star war because he’s a multi millionaire” he was a meme before he went viral on tik tok

They’re impressed by his wealth. Roosh V basically said the same stuff over five years ago and he got straight up buried cause all his income was linked to Amazon sales and he never had the same amount of cash.

I think this is the reason why he was mass canceled. A large portion of the people who made him popular were young guys (14-21) on tik tok if I’m not mistaken? I’m 31 and I don’t even use that app. He also does seem to have an older fan base as well. Seen them on Facebook.

I don’t believe what I’m doing is bullshit but I do have my beliefs, double standards and preferences and I am working towards having a more truthful relationship with less self bias to it. It’s not so simple I believe at first but it definitely is something I can work on. There are a number of choices I’m making that I am working to become conscious of, reevaluate and change. I am complicating the relationship (so is she) but I’ve found that happens when people haven’t worked through all their beliefs. Relationships can be very messy and complicated sometimes when people want different things, double standards, or pasts, beliefs, we even bring what society says what a relationship should be into it as well. I won’t try and say I’m above that and I have the most conscious relationship where neither of us are creating negative emotions out of thinking we aren’t worthy of love. comparability is interesting because I think this can change over time and sometimes it takes time to real come to the conclusion neither person is compatible. At that point both people can be very intertwined and ending the relationship and starting over can challenging. I don’t think it’s possible to just have one or two relationships and then just magically find the perfect person, maybe it happens for some and not all. We need to make mistakes and learn from them to relate to people better and be right within ourselves to maintain these healthy relationships. probably 90% ofwhat I originally wrote just comes from the belief that I don’t want to get married yet and still want to date around while she is ready to have a man fully commit to her, but I don’t want to fully commit right now at this stage in my life.

I think people do it for a number of reasons in their mind. I don’t think it’s just “TRAUMAAAA” but it definitely can and does play a role for many people. I’m not sure this post could list off every single belief or reason why people cheat. There is also cheating in the moment and having an affair. I personally think it’s best to avoid living a life that lacks integrity. That comes with a lot of problems. I agree. Both people have to be aligned with their true spiritual value instead of societal value, or else their beliefs will always lead back to some form of “not being good enough, “not worthy of love”, “not being capable”, these type of beliefs.

I don’t think either of you are totally off. There is some truth to what both you said about Russian women and my gf. She does have low self esteem and past traumas. I’m doing what I can to help her boost it, but I can’t magically “heal” her. She also wants me to fully commit but I’ve stated it clearly to her I’m not interested in planning out my future with her and don’t want one relationship for the rest of my life. For the record I’ve never cheated on her and I don’t want to live a double life like that. I think it is more a patriarchy style type of relationship I have and Russian women have in general, and I could be exploiting her in some ways (I believe she is doing the same to me as well) but I don’t know any sort of alternative to this. I don’t yet have the life experience like that to choose some ideal relationship free of beliefs that are embroiled a lot with what society has laid out. The only alternatives being sold to me now are stage green feminism relationships which look utterly dreadful. I don’t want to date a woman with a manly vibe to her and I might as well turn in my balls if I’m going to date how I see them do in New York. I believe this alternative ruins the passion. I would like to hear about some alternatives and your thoughts on this because I want to be with someone who is arousing and passionate for me and I feel like a man around (my beliefs of what a man is, maybe could use some working on) and when I’ve tried on beliefs to do with stage green relationships it basically kills all, what we can call “old school” sexual tension of being with a feminine woman.

Meh I’m not interested in going that deep into this rapist’s life. Im sure there is wisdom there but I have other stuff to learn about. I’m not convinced he’s more than what I described him as but I do agree prison will do him some good.

Taking notes can help. Also, I think broad strokes of the right material can be remembered and brought into your belief system. I think if it’s book you are forgetting, it might not have been very good or helpful in the first place. I would like to read more. Do you have any tips for making reading a daily habit?

No, need protein if you want to be strong and do anything

What are some useful counseling certificates or diplomas that can be done fully online ? How does one go about getting training. I’m wanting to start a business as a coach/counselor helping guys who have “incel” problems and are unable to make friends or get a girlfriend.

What do you believe there is to learn from Tate? I’ve watched some of his vids and it’s either very generic responsibility pep talks or a culture war rant. There is very little depth to anything he has to say. He is a simple man’s idea of a sophisticated man. All the chess and talk of history does not fool me. I don’t believe the women are victims. They may have been abused but I also think it was their choice to associate with such a shady person. I don’t believe they are to blame but they are responsible for chasing a shady lifestyle like this. I’m sure plenty of red flags were there and many of them made the mistake of sticking around. It’s not an excuse and Tate is responsible for his actions but these women are responsible for not playing the victim card and taking responsibility for their emotions and not repeating the same mistakes.

My gf is Russian as well and said it’s fine to take another girl into the bedroom for a threesome and wouldn’t be that mad if I cheated on her and she is fiercely loyal and aludes to it being open on my side as something that wouldn’t be relationship ending for her. Really feminine energy loves to serve and care for what the masculine desires. I’ve noticed this when both people are really on opposite ends of the pole. I believe men can enjoy multiple women but it’s going against nature the other way around, although it is fine for women to explore if they wish but many men aren’t really open for this role to be reversed if both will then have a traditional relationship together. Most guys don’t want a woman that has had so many guys before but the other way around is experience for a man and seen as attractive by women.

I for one neither hate him nor consider myself as a vigilante. I don’t know him. I envy his bank account but that’s it. All I’ve seen are some of his tweets and some news since he blew up. This guy I recall was an absolute no name for years before this where he would occasionally pop up on a red pill circle and even then he would say tons of toxic and hateful stuff, I’ve always been developmentally above him. I personally don’t need a masculine role model to look up to, which I guess he has a ton of simps that do? I don’t think he is evil. Every person has value and is loved by god the same amount. I think someone like Tate would of been a savage war lord a couple hundred years ago that goes into a town and murders every guy and keeps the women as sex slaves. Back then society was aligned with this behavior so this was just seen as normal and fine. Times have long changed however so his savage behavior won’t go unnoticed and even a conservative country like Romania has had enough of him.

The thing is most guys who watch Tate pick up all the toxic beliefs and disgusting personality Tate has built for himself. They don’t have the ability to differentiate (or they do it poorly) much at all. I’d say there is literally nothing I could learn about life from Tate except not to make the same mistakes he has. He doesn’t really teach anything except the basic premise of taking responsibility for you life and then flashes his wealth as his sort of social proof for that. That’s an age old lesson being repackaged over and over. Men need to hear it for sure but it’s basically an adage he just hitched his wagon to in order to sell self help courses. He took responsibility and directed it towards raping and exploiting. He did not use that to build something solid or truthful. Looks like he’s going to be serving some hard time perhaps now too so let that be a lesson to all guys here, learn from his mistakes and don’t make the same. Tate ended up teaching us something after all here.

I’m fine with poly when it’s open on my side and closed on her’s. It’s a double standard but I don’t care. I believe if a guy can offer a ton of societal value he can find a relationship like this.

I can’t think of a situation as a man that men hate more than when their girlfriend / wife is assaulted by another man. Fuck this guy. Basically we were separated at one point. She asked for directions from a group of four guys who said they were headed in the same direction and they would walk her there (like a two minute walk on a crowded street). As they were walking one of them grabbed her butt while she was wearing a miniskirt and tights. She freaked out, called the guy an asshole and left them straight away. She got a little lost too and it took her time to find her way there alone. She said even the friends of the piece of shit who touched her didn’t approve of his behavior. I keep brass wrings on my hands so if I have to throw a punch it will do 10x more damage. I haven’t had to throw any punches yet but I would of totally clocked this guy if I was there. fuck anyone that does this grabbing girls like that, she literally only asked for directions . rant over

Because Tate is part of society and is aligned with society values and every person here is part of society and most are still aligned with society values. I’ve reflected a bit on this myself and I’ve come to the conclusion Tate’s behavior is disgusting and I believe the best course of action for him is prison. The guy basically is a serial rapist and online webcam pimp. It’s funny how people like Trump and Tate are arbiters of “traditional values” in 2022. Neither of these two individuals are traditional.

Wow this thread has gotten big. I think this is basically a culture war with Tate at the front representing the red pill and anyone that trashes him is on the other side. cause tbh I don’t see anything special about this guy besides he’s good at being offensive. He doesn’t say anything really interesting. He owns all the usually designer stuff and the sort of typical sports car a 14 yo boy dreams about owning. He is kinda like Dan Bilzerian only more political, more toxic and he seems to be a rapist and making his fortune off exploring insecurities of guys selling bogus self help courses. Dan inherited all his wealth and then lied about making it all playing poker. I think tate ran a web cam studio too which can be used to abuse women. But also let’s not paint women as victims here, they need to take responsibility for associating with such a shady character. Dan got caught lying about owning that mansion in California. I guess these guys start falling apart when they get famous? Tate kinda reminds me of Dan but I think Dan is far less toxic and kinda just a chill guy who smokes a lot of weed and throw expensive parties and sleep with Instagram escorts.

They are definitely not useless. Results may vary though. Your photos, style and physical location play a huge role however.