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You think you’re being honest when you try to play the subjectivity card? How about I shoot your family and say it’s subjective what just happened? I’m not yielding ground to your lunatic argument. I know Jews too. Everything is pragmatic and sensible about the way we think expect this delusional fairytale claim to this land. There was a place called the kingdom of Israel before the Roman Empire. It would not be remotely understood today as what we call a nation. I can’t believe this is even considered a valid point of evidence in this discussion. Why not colonize and create a Jewish state in Africa, don’t we all have roots going back to Ethiopia 300,000 years ago? Why would Arabs accept a proposal for land they seen as stolen. It’s like you coming into my house and taking one of my rooms, squatting and then to prevent things from getting violent you wish to force some legal ruling. The whole claim to the land Israel is built on exists outside any sort of reasonable legal framework or school of thought or rational minded thinking. What Israel has done has nothing to do with morality: it has to do with survival.

I also do not support deconstructing or the destruction of Israel. That would equally cause a huge humanitarian crisis. But resolving this problem in the Middle East can not happen until Israel is honest and awakens from this denial and dishonesty that is the story behind the founding of their state. It’s a ridiculous stretch of the truth, it’s a lie. No reasonable or honest mind can justify the story behind Israel, I can’t educate you on it here. Just read any “history of the Middle East” text book from a university that isn’t inside Israel. to solve this issue - Israel needs to come out of this delusisonal story they’ve spun to justify their state - all USA militarily funding must be cut including defense - Israel will be forced to come to the bargaining table - land back and all settlements demolished - defensive structures can be built and there can be a treaty to protect Israel if they are attacked, but only after West Bank is returned and all territory that as been gained since 1947, obviously this can be applied flexibly if there needs to be some exceptions.

I’m sorry but it’s this victim mindset that has poisoned our people’s psyche for ages now. My great grandpa killed himself in captivity in Berlin. I know we were treated horribly. I know it was terrible what my family went through. But I value truth above all else. And I’m not going to spin some bullshit story and think me as a white European has claim to some land because some distant diaspora tale from some magical bible book says I do. It’s pure madness. You really believe because some European Jews interpreted their holy book saying they have the right to land FROM ROMAN TIMES 2000+ years ago that it’s ok to go in and remove the people who have indigenously lived there for over 2000 years? It’s pure madness and a massive lie. To live as an Israeli and believe this is to live a lie and I don’t live lies. At least countries like the USA and Brazil are coming clean and being honest about the ethnic cleansing and don’t spin some story about it. They have owned up to it and don’t have to create a mythos that literally no other country on earth has to in order justify the creation of a state. The only reason Israel continues to survive is because of the backing of the USA and that’s because it’s strategically an incredibly important point of interest for the USA. Also no captain from Hamas there would exterminate me because I’m not colonizing their land and where I reside now I am perfectly legal and understood as an honest inhabitant of where I’m living. I’ve not deprived anyone of their home. I would also not hide behind platitudes and ad hocs on subjectivity. Many Israelis actively believe in Zionism and are taught a ridiculous fairytale about why they are entitled to occupy the land they currently live on. Zionism is very much alive and well. Please share your position. why do you believe a state can be built by refugees from WWII on land that had indigenous inhabitants on it that lived there going back 2000 years, up until the 1940s, just 80 years ago?

I have no problems with being Jewish. I have a problem with Israel. Why do Zionist Israelis think they can speak for the entirety of judaism? What’s worse is I have to now look over my shoulder because of them due to their genocide.

I would not hide behind subjectivity if I were you. If I came over to your house and kicked you out, killed one of your kids and then claimed I had the right to because 2000 years ago in my magical book it says my people lived here, I can tell you now that is dishonesty not subjectivity and you would know how dishonest this is. History will not be on your side here.

There is no country on earth with a bigger bullshit story for its justification and existence than Israel. They even surpass those Russian enclaves and break away states in former Soviet Union countries, and trust me those places have some ridiculous bullshit justifying them. White Europeans think they are entitled to that land because their magical bible book says they are cause people 2000+ years removed from them once lived there.

Brother I’m Jewish. My grandma was sexually assaulted by Nazis. I have German citizenship due to restoration laws. I’m probably the most open minded non biased Jew there is. I applied for Israel citizenship then withdrew my application as soon as I researched the history. Israel has the biggest joke of a justification for its history based on complete and total victim mindset, colonialism and make believe history.

How can you rationalize that land belongs to you because your ancestors removed by 2000+ years had a place called the kingdom of Israel there, not even understood in the same sense we frame countries and people today. It’s pure delusion.

You have a really people pleasing attitude towards this. It’s not her right to tell you what to do but also at the same time honest communication is key and she may not want to be in a relationship with someone who uses these substances. I don’t like girls who use stuff much. So I think if you want the relationship to work you both have to communicate honestly between you both. You may not want to agree with her requests though. Maybe you want to use these substances and you have every right to. Keep in mind she has every right to want to be around someone who doesn’t. You have to come to some middle ground or agreement and keep the honest communication going.

According to the ZoG definition in the book “the big leap” it’s not defined as that at all. It’s defined at what makes you super passionate and when you’re doing it, it doesn’t feel like work, unique talents and abilities. It’s not always too hard to get on the path towards your Zog. Just ask yourself what part of any tasks you do is fun and doesn’t feel like work. If you can’t provide an answer you need to try more things or work on resolving inner issues to gain more clarity. When I was like 16-21 I had no idea what my ZoG was cause all I did was play video games and sit on message boards discussing them. I would make graphics arts and loved it but would deny myself this talent. I realized as I’ve grown I love to make art and tell stories. I’m now into videos.

Dude your perspectives suck. We are so blessed to be here.

yes, i agree, but it's not a drastic difference at least in more metropolitan, sexually liberal cities. Safety is maybe the first thing and then it is not wanting to see themselves as a slut / easy as second. Apart from those two hang ups sex isn't that big of a deal for women and used often as a bargaining chip / leverage initially and throughout the relationship. In privacy many girls will act like major hoes and you'll never know, just even by looking at them or even by their lifestyle. I've met totally introverted girls who don't party who are hooking up with several new guys a week for periods of time. Found out from other girls spilling the tea on their friends. Girls in general are no angles on this topic and they hide it out of fear.

Israel isn't a good example of a democracy. You ain't a democracy if you build an ethno state and ethnically clean the land of natives. It's like how Trump people think their ideology is democracy, demonize and clean the other side, then have everyone who agrees with each other vote.

Thugging it out. One week down. It’s gotten better.

My experience as well. Women will only create these boundaries if they don’t really like you or want to sleep with you and it’s uncommon for her to flip on them once they are there. It even comes down to the date. A dinner date for example, one that a girl insists on, it is a sign she ain’t that horny. Horny girls will meet you on the street at night if they like you. Just screen for that. And from my experience if you ain’t finding girls like this in your screen it means you need to work on things that make you attractive. The raw “game” skills are actually quality limited and not complicated at all if you 1) know how to screen 2) are relatively attractive in an area with women you are attracted to 3) know how to just shut up and get out of your own way and not fuck it up or overthink it. I don’t even bother with restaurant dates anymore if I haven’t slept with a woman. Just take them to the beach or a bar and you will know your answer in the first 30 minutes if she wants to sleep with you.

I agree sex isn’t as a big of deal for women as it’s understood by most men, but I do think on average they take it a bit more seriously and take on more physical risks which they are aware of, the dynamic which most women have sex also makes it so that they also tend to get a little more quickly attached and fall in love quicker than the man. I’m not sure I entirely agree with this but generally women will go after men they see as above their pay grade on the dating chart in their mind while men date women at their pay grade or down in their mind. So it sets it up so the woman has more invested in it in her expectations than the man, at first. So you see a lot of women this make a big deal after sex when it doesn’t work out, cause to them they lost an opportunity.

Guys, maybe the new normal election is having an incredulous closed minded boomer ranting about the good old days. Maybe it’s not new but these sentiments were always here and just recently got emboldened? I think a majority of the country was always running on fear and never had appreciation for democracy. It just took the right amount of economic instability and a certain politician gifted at campaigning and blaming to exploit that.

Whenever I had a girl come over I used to get sloppy and put a clean unfolded pile of laundry on my one seater so there was only the coach. This was years ago. Do not follow my lead.

Oh, yeah dude. In that case I would write such students off. I don't think it's really productive this dynamic. It's one thing to encourage students to wake up, and take responsiblity for what they believe and why they believe it. And if they find what I have to say isn't for them, go their own way, but if someone comes looking for help and my perspective and then they just want to argue with what I say, yeah pass.

Think about it! There is huge untapped potential for teaching spirituality and healthy inner work models to young men ages 16-30. There is a huge blue ocean for potential. There are very few communities like Actualized, which from my POV is a spirituality and self improvement group largely for young men, and I believe there is more potential now than ever to help young men in the english speaking world widen their perspective. In a way young men have really been let down in the west when it comes to dealing with their mental health challenges. We have sky rocketing rates of porn addiction, incels, guys who have no clue how to talk to women, guys with no friends, just a huge portion of the male population that believes they are hopeless or living entirely dead end existences. There have been voices in this space which are deeply corrupt and idealogical and go to extremes, pick up artistry, dead end gym grinding, this sort of hyper masculine try hard shit. Not many people have really taken this side of stuff and brought it together with spirituality, "trauma healing" and balance. I believe it is possible to find my audience and niche down and actually win many of these guys back with truth, honesty and integrity. I think basically what you have to do is become a personality and face on the internet but then actually specialize and hone down your skills to actually offer perspectives that help young men resolve inner issues. We see a lot of guys solely focusing on money as the solution, and they rage bait guys by then shitting on women. This space could use a more balanced male perspective and it's untapped because so many people are like sheep, just looking at the guy shitting on women or the guy grinding in the gym that validates the world view of the person who wants to feel bad about life being hard. I've included this video down bellow as an example of how one may build a young men's wellness brand.

thanks for the info!

yes, these are some of the exact problems I'm looking to help solve for some people, since I know I can't help all of them. What would you call an entitlement issue? in my model I use the word the "inner child" for the word "ego" and the inner child by nature usually acts very entitled, it's about integrating and balancing it with the higher spiritual self.

It is indeed bro, I can see it slowly forming and coming together, surprises in store. I think there’s definitely leg work to do in the meantime and it’s painfully obvious how little attention this market has gotten. It really is true when people say “we gave up on young men.” I think there’s definitely room for more holistic and integrity based approaches that bring spirituality in, bring in money and fitness, relationships with women and all that, but don’t have this political ideology and hyper capitalist, hyper try hard gymcel wolf of wall street vibe to it. It’s way out of balance. Young men are some of the lowest demographic to actually seek help with solving deeper issues that need resolution through love and wisdom. Actualized and Leo’s work is one of the few communities that brings it all together. I know Leo has said he is more interested in explore the edges of reality and cognition, pushing his perspective and perceptions into radical unknowns, he’s not really looking to create a sort of “healing” model or system that encompasses day to day living. He’s laid the groundwork in many ways by bringing spirituality into manosphere / self improvement. But we need more people from this community now who are interested in day to day life and getting fulfillment from helping people to now create their own models that can appeal to the wider audience of men. It’s largely dominated by scammers, hyper capitalists and culture war shit. I don’t think genuine holistic self improvement is some niche most men won’t touch except the long haired hippies or soft guys, it needs to be explored but this demographic is definitely underserved and change can happen here.

thanks!

This is an interesting notion. We did get slavery alongside spirituality. That is true.