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Where is this crap coming from? You know how much SA is swept under the carpet in conservative societies? Catholic priests and all the weird stuff they do? You have mischaracterized and attacked liberalism to suit your bias conservative conspiracies.

The issue with this guy is he sacrificed his integrity by basing his belief system in unfairness and injustice. He built his audience by going on fresh and fit podcast which was all about just dunking on slutty girls living in Miami. That podcast basically was taking extremes from both sides. There are some valid points he makes and many of them you can discover yourself by learning to respect yourself and be authentic. His content is a step above fresh and fit and most red pill content but it’s tainted. He’s too afraid of being naive or a sucker so he doesn’t balance reasonability / pragmatism well with the wonder / magic of a relationship. He’s too concerned about fairness and injustice. This subtly disconnects you from actually being authentic because your energy is going into trying to avoid being hurt vs building something intimate.

And I’m debating if it matters much or not now I’m 34, at heart I still feel young and am connected to spirit and the awe of life but my swagger has very much gone into disrepair because I’ve been in a long term relationship that has been on again / off again. Finally we started working together and we are speaking about getting married because it just makes sense for us and I very much value and love her and we are on a similar path now as well. Aside from FOMO because I am a man and I think most men still do crave other beautiful women, I am adjusting to what I see as a loss of swagger. I believe I’m not as attractive as I used to be. I’ve been focused on my career, my social media videos, and relationship for years and I haven’t put energy into my appearance or my social skills. I’m a bit out of shape (beer belly) and I don’t choose to create confidence for myself because I believe I don’t have anything to be confident about when it comes to swagger stuff. I love who I am, I just see myself as sort of lacking that passion or fire a few years ago when I was more horny. My mind and energy has moved onto adult stuff, kids, buying a home, investing, loving my soon to be wife, eating less junk to avoid a heart attack, etc. I do get to travel a lot though which I love. I guess what I’m trying to say is I don’t feel sexy and like I have that passionate drive. I’m starting to feel a little old, like when you see some middle aged normie who is content and doing well and loves his family and his life but also is creating some self doubt over how much fun he is (bored deep down). I suppose I believe I want to build my swagger back, stand out more, be a little more cocky and confident for fun like I used to be. I miss this version of me. But I also want to stay authentic and not be a Peter Pan guy who wants to carry a skateboard around trying to fit in with the kids. I’m doubting my worth, I know these things shouldn’t define me. At the same time I’m only 34 and I don’t want to start going down hill, I think it’s valid to nurture the passion and child like qualities of life. Can anyone relate? How to stay passionate and keep your swagger? I think really prioritizing fitness will help, losing the belly and feeling better and more athletic will help.

Saudi Arabia hates Iran and is mortal enemies with them and if Iran has nukes SA will 1000% go after their own creating even more potential for war.

There is no goddamn way Iran with Nukes is any better than what is going on now...

Dude, Saudi Arabia WILL go after nukes if Iran has them. So will Turkey. Nuclear proliferation. This is the gamble, do more nukes in the region create deterrence? OR a more likely scenario where they get used OR states act cocky and think they can do anything (Russia). Imagine a Nuke'd up Iran. They would fund the shit out of Hezbollah and other proxies and sit back, no one can fuck with them. I see no evidence Iran with nukes will somehow lead to peace. At the same time... here we are in reality and there is tension and fighting... I really don't know what the way forward is with this.

I do not see how arguing for Iran to have nukes makes it better either. This situation is fucked. I see no clear solution forward. Research deep into the ideology and statecraft of Iran. Maybe it sounds dismissive but it's almost silly to suggest Iran with nukes would lead to peace. Their entire state is built on the idea of wiping Israel off the map.

Really? Why? Iran is NOT a country that should have nukes.

I write this as someone who is still working very hard on deconstructing many of my pick up artist beliefs from being associated with the Manosphere since 2016. It’s not worth it. It may seem alluring. It may seem like you are righting some wrong or injustice by adopting these perspectives but it doesn’t work. You will be building your entire relationship belief system on unfairnesses and you will never be happy or find a way to have a fulfilling relationship. It will cloud your ability to even choose someone because you will be trying to control things out of your control and seeing what you want to see until you realize there’s more to it. You will not meet some perfect girl who is a saint and didn’t benefit from all the unfairnesses you hate and you will never be satisfied. You have never seen any of these guys in anything long term for a reason. They aren’t players and most of them suck at socializing and dating, they are attracting equally warped women who further feed their self fulfilling prophecy and in the end you will sabotage your relationship like I have so many times from trying to reach some fairness in this domain of life. I have fucked my life up in so many ways adopting these beliefs, don’t take them on. It may have lead to a lot of sex but also a lot of problems I have created for myself.

Exactly. This is the truth. You cannot build your life on truth if you corrupt it with these energies. It’s like rationalizing drinking one can of Coca Cola a day. It doesn’t sem like much but that one little habit actually affects health more than you realize when reaching super human levels of health, same applies to connection to spirit. These little things are what constantly pull you away from the flow / the Tao. It’s choosing truth and standing by it. He maybe has some insight to share and maybe he will save you getting scammed once or twice if you’re new to dating tricks in Miami but it will come at the cost of your mind being corrupted with negative inherited beliefs that aren’t even yours.

Nah he def has sacrificed the spirit of his work by stooping low to red pill level energy. He went on fresh and fit multiple times. And in his mind he can warp it to believe he is helping men, getting paid big bucks and making good money off lonely guys. All of these guys are a bunch of bastards. They scam incels as much as women do. Red pill vultures have done plenty to scramble for red pill incel bucks, sometimes more than most gold diggers. If you are building a community associating yourself with this stuff, you lack integrity.

This is the issue with red pill guys. They do make good points but they lack integrity and sacrifice it to grow their shit. He milks his social media platform with overpriced consultations. Anyone with a reasonable understanding of life will know no information based session in anything is worth much more than $2-300 an hour, maybe $400. But he’s charging like $1000. On top of that he went on the fresh and fit podcast to build his platform which is pretty damn negative. He makes decent observations about dating and I do agree with him. Modern dating has tilted in a way where women can be far more dishonest and coy than men and take advantage of men more often than women. Do men exploit women? Sure, but it’s the select few with volume and by no means the majority, whereas I’ve found women can definitely manipulate men more. I’m open to this being my bias. I’ve just seen and heard far to much to know this is true, evidence being the very existence of red pill. Red pill exists in this modern world due to the imbalance women now indulge in, but I don’t think it’s an excuse to go bitter and grind axes. The way out isn’t grinding axes and I think this stuff makes life so ugly. Even I will choose to go down these ugly rabbit holes due to the familiarity and perceived sense of injustice the inner child / ego so wishes to hold onto. Basically, if you wanna make yourself angry at life fixate on dating unfairnesses. If you wanna be happy, just accept shit is fucked and harder for men and make peace with that and smile and move forward trying your best. Simple as that.

Dude go out more and work on your life then rethink what you wrote here. If you don’t have a thriving business / LP, a hot girlfriend and cool shit going on in your life you don’t have room to talk about this stuff. Make shit happen and do it the best then you will understand why it exists.

I'm not entirely following the conversation since I haven't really fleshed out my understanding and experiences so clearly into these categories, but I think what he is speaking about is the pure magic and gold you find as you walk the spiritual path and allow this process to unfold with more and more love. I remember doing some meditating while following YouTube videos made by neo-advaita teachers and I find it sort of dry and disabled. It's not enjoyable. It's missing something I really awakened to that was right in front of me that a mentor of mine showed me through inner child / Taoist self inquiry, which is the pure magic and potential that is alway going up, this inherent value one has, like a never ending firework and a gift bestowed upon by oneself for being nothing short of a pure miracle. It's profound and it really sets a fire under my feet to live life fully and embrace my human side while remaining curious about the spirit. My life started going better after this and I started to really understand the law of attraction and started manifesting more and more, and I'm still growing here like I'm seeing things just unfold for the best. I never really found this through those dry meditations where the teacher is like "there is no you", dry bland meditations that did not lead me to True Value.

I think it’s just a bit of fomo, cause I love beautiful women and am a bit greedy, I would just enjoy the freedom to eo what I want here but of course only on my end, cause I’d not ever cuck myself. It’s not realistic so I don’t ask for it. She pushes me to my max to grow and is very good for me. I’ve actually noticed my swagger comes back some when I put energy into it. I think I’ve kinda let it go to the side myself by just getting lazy. She’s very much in the same path as me and really pushes me to do my life purpose which is unfolding beautifully for me, I’m making huge progress and growth in it. I think keeping the passion is just a bit of a challenge. I am glad I’m committing but I do also panic a bit and have a bit of fomo cause i don’t know how any guy wouldn’t with all the beautiful women out there. I don’t want another girlfriend or to be intimate with anyone else or build a new relationship I just want the thrill of other women and to see myself as free to do what I want

Course sellers on instagram

Iran with nukes would mean Israel would be fucked, at the same time I’m not sure I support Iran having nukes is a good idea. Read about their world view.

Yeah, the hell if I know. Same with me! Our family is so close to us. We kinda learn how to press each other’s buttons.

I’ll try to state what I’m saying without hyperbole and extremes. I don’t have much skin in this game. I don’t sell courses or knowledge products like him. It’s just funny to me cause from my observation I’ve seen coaches in these spaces make compelling arguments for their respective sides: money / status / fitness vs social skills / body language / charisma and both do not have any incentive to be truly honest about what works or how this whole domain of life works. Everyone’s teaching on it is somewhat incomplete. Owen is not someone I would entirely believe everything he says. It’s like when you have this idea of how good someone is at what they do or how it is and then you meet your hero and you realize you were making it more special in your own mind. He’s loaded, he can throw mansion parties. There was a point he even started to pivot to mansion / social medie game briefly on YouTube because the market seemed to be wanting information on this, but I guess he’s now back to raw social skill? I’m not entirely familiar with his system or belief system or what he is selling these days.

Sólipsist - people who adamantly say only solipsism is possible in infinity

This issue I see here is that Owen claims that social skill and tenacity and charisma will beat money and physique every time, but the funny thing is on the other side I see coaches saying that money and physique will beat social skill, and tenacity every time in the long run. In fact a lot of those other social coaches will talk about how you don’t even have to go out, just build money and your physique and women will come to you… So you gotta realize that both of these groups want to sell you a course and at the end of the day, they’re gonna believe to a fault that their own system and world view because doubting it means they don’t have a product. They are just selling you beliefs. In reality you have to find what works for you and is authentic for you, inner wisdom. My belief is that the kingdom within is the guidance you need to authentically live and fulfill your desires in a way aligned with the universe. Where you are at peace, always, even during storms. If you are exceptionally in shape and you have a world class body, then play that up if it works for you and is in your flow. Do the same if it is money and you know how to leverage that, same with charisma. Go out a lot and talk to people and talk to women. It’s about finding what’s authentic for you and works best for you. I found my girlfriend by working on my social skills a bit but mostly by clearing beliefs that kept me feeling chronically nervous and afraid of being left. So just by clearing your mental health you can attract beautiful women.

He just has shitty physique and is too lazy or doesn’t have energy to change it, so this is how he copes. I’ve felt this way before too where I didn’t want to bust my ass in the gym because the pay off isn’t always great for dating. It’s true, don’t expect tons of gym training to suddenly make you top tier in meeting women. He knows to play up his business, money, lifestyle and tenacity because it goes farther for him and for most men who aren’t athletic. If you have good genetics and physique it definitely is a foundation most people don’t realize helps them a lot. You can sidestep this somewhat though if you are picking up girls in nightlife and have cash to make yourself stand out, or are relatively cultured and socialized. I do think he is right, training isn’t a cure all for a bad dating life. It should be done for the foundation of an overall good life, absolutely. I think there is a a high tier barrier though to really drawing in large volumes of the best pussy which is being in exceptional shape. A lot of the most beautiful women have really gotten on the wellness trends and want to meet a guy from their run club or whatever. If you want to date an instagram only fans model being in great shape helps a lot on top of being rich. I think a lot of really beautiful women also gravitate to beaches which being in good shape helps a ton if you are in a place like Miami. So I think it’s holistic, getting ripped is somewhat important if you want to live in a cool warm beach place or you gotta be loaded

Todd is the only person I ever spent money on for pick up information, back in 2018. It definitely felt overpriced and scammy. I would not help him. He got what he deserved from this and needs to let this shit go. RSD doesn’t even exist anymore.

Crazy how much drama came from RSD. 20% decent info 80% a scam. This is like being transported back to 2017 and hearing how a coach got fired.

Pick up / RSD community drama in 2025…. have I taken a time machine back to like 2017?