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@James123 no no no, i dont care whether or not you break through via meditation or via drugs. Meditation also has nothing to do with awakening. Look at the buddhists on dharma overground and other such forums. They are absolutely delusional, narcissistic, sucking off buddha's dick and thinking they are enlightened because they do "vipassana meditation".

@Girzo again, you dont know anything about me. Ive "broken thru" dozens of times, i can "merge myself with the divine" on demand, without drugs, but, so what? It has nothing to do with truth. It's a subjective hallucination. Thats why no awakened person will accept bullshit like 5Meo DMT LMAO Leo is so f*ing arrogant, he think "peter ralston doesnt wanna take 5meo cuz hes close minded", NO LEO ITS BECAUSE WE DONT WANT STUPID FUCKING FLEETING EXPERIENCES. Why do you guys attach such meaning to psychedelics delusional experiences? Serious question.

@James123 am i the only one who sees this forum as a feedback of loop of craziness? I dont know how you call this in english but its like someone says something crazy and gets applauded by his/her members on the forum and then whenever someone like me who comes in and speaks simple, common sense stuff, gets looked at as the weird one? Wtf is this shit hahahah absolute delusion.. everything you are saying is mere speculation, none of you know what happens after you die

@Leo Gura no Leo, you are complicating something that is extremely simple. You want it to be complicated and "deep" because you dont want the search to come to an end

@James123 ive done all of that and some more, what im trying to say id that a tree is a tree, a duck is a duck. Yes, the concept is not "the thing" but to claim you are not a human is absolute dissociation. A lot of ppl get stuck on this middle part of the path and tell everyone "i dont exist" and "im not a human" which shows they arent really "there yet" Psychedelics have absolutely zero to do with enlightenment. Deconstructing childhood trauma, yeah sure, but absolutely zero to do with the e-word

@Brenzo2 if he was awake he would shut up. of that you can be certain. Instead, he thinks he has "the way" and looks down at ppl who tell him otherwise. Again, no different than the Christians from my past "Oh brother, i will pray for you!! The devil has got you!!" Why the fuck do these ppl wanna pray for me? Anyways, i digress.. Yes, its subjective but what Leo is trying to do is to take away his own AND HIS FOLLOWERS' humanity by turning them into dissociated freaks of "infinite love consciousness". The fact is that biological beings empathize with each other because that's how we're wired. For whatever reason, Leo thinks "enlightenment" is about transcending the laws of nature and materialize stuff out of thin air, which he himself has proven he CANNOT DO. Ever heard of SaiBaba, the guru who claimed he could materialize gold? He got exposed as a fraud. Bentinho massaro, who claimed he could levitate? Utterly debunked. All these ppl just talk about infinite love blablabla but can never EVER show it to ppl around them. Why not? Because its a fantasy. Somehow ppl fall for it, i dont know The mind control of spirituality and religion goes deep and ppl cant see through it because they are in such a deep dissociated trance. I know, when i was a christian, i couldnt see beyond my crazy beliefs. It took some time to deprogram myself, but when i did i was like "huh, i was CRAZY!!!" Maybe something similar happens to Leo, but i doubt it

@James123 "i hit nonduality 3 times with meditation". Lmao. Theres no way a person could tell themselves they were in a nondual state. Mahasamadhi? Again, lmao. The whole thing is predicated upon the fact that you're a soul. @Leo Gura no, actually YOU are not "awake". You wouldnt talk about the shit that you do if you were and srsly do you not know that the stuff you are saying has been said ad nauseum in the 80s and the 90s in books like "law of one"/"ra material"? "We are one, we must align with god's will" blablabla You are parroting nonsense Leo, at least i admit my shit, while you keep peddling it. And not only to yourself... But to others as well!! No different than Osho, that bastard who lived off of delusional hippies giving him money. And to say corona virus is love - again, children make up stories to explain the horror of reality away - which is what you are. And you even said you "could make it go away but you didnt because you realized it was love". Lol. And you blessed fetuses of pregnant women. Ahahah. Absolute DELUSION

@James123 umm excuse me. Do you know anything about me? I studied non duality for years and came to found out that all so called "non dualists" were actually dualists. "You are too human"? I am a fucking human. You are as well. You're just lost in a spiritual story and are completely dissociated. That's why you have to keep READING BOOKS and listening to spiritual teachers etc. So that your delusional story gets reinforced and you can keep experiencing the same stuff over and over again

@Osaid unconditional love is a fantasy created by adult children who cannot accept reality for what it is I lived with people who talked about "unconditional love" and took psychedelics etc.... They were no different than the average Joe

@James123 "love" is an experience within the thought structure. You can only experience the things you have knowledge of. Experience doesnt exist

@Leo Gura lol trust me i know all about the "love experience" i was a christian, ppl getting "slain in the spirit" and passing out due to "divine love"... It's a sensual experience. Has zero to do with liberation. As long as you have the idea of "love" in your mind, you will be bound to hate. You're a dualist, essentialy - soul inside of a body. No different than the Christians i grew up with The mind structure looks at nature and sees that it is a horror and thus creates the story of "everything being love" in order to cope with the harsh truth of it. I wanna see you look at a malnourished child in africa and tell him "it's all love". This "love" you feel is a projection of your imagination (it's very convenient how you say EVERYTHING is imagination - that way your metaphysicak stories can continue to exist) Concepts like "God" and "Love" have done more damage to the world than ANYTHING.

@Leo Gura i wasnt expecting any better response than that since you just believe what you WANT to believe and keep pumping up the delusion that keeps you and your followers on an infinite staircase to nowhere.

@Leo Gura love is a concept. You will experience whatever concept you believe to be true on psychedelics.. .and then you come to the real world... Which you deny exists. Lol!