Mosess

no completely bodiless ???

@omar30 I dont know man, i've heard alot of stories about muhammed, jesus and buddha. then i acknowledged that i don't really know which stories were true and which weren't. I ended up dropping all stories alltogether because i simply didnt know which ones to trust and which ones not to trust It felt weird at first because i was in a groundless state of not knowing anything but i got used to it, and a certain kind of wisdom came along with that ?

@BipolarGrowth Its like walking in a crowd full of robots that all share the same core program that you can clearly see, but that they are all blind too freaks me out more than i like to admit lol

you don't need to believe in a sound if you can clearly hear it happening in around you How would someone believe in enlightenment? ?

Other than that, the question itself is stupid any WHY question ever asked is out of confusion, ignorance and denial. Any answer given to a WHY question would be 1 reason/infinite reasons. For example: Why is my dick small in size? Because bla bla bla. When given the reason or answer to the question, we can further ask ourselves: WHY THIS ANSWER? Given "my" answer above, It would only be useful when asked by one self, and answered by 1 self. Since the answer is 1, the self is also 1, then they would fit perfectly together and cause no confusion. (No pun intended) If a self asks another self a question that starts with WHY, it would literally be as if a dog is chasing its own tale. The answer will NEVER satisfy both selves, because the answer is 1, and the selves are 2.

It is but not on here, not on actualized forums, Not when your talking or typing about it, not when your thinking about it. Think of the forums like you are pressing pause on a video game and checking the settings tab. You can't understand the full game because its on pause, the only way to fully understand it all would be to press resume and keep on playing the game, seeing it unfold in action while keeping in mind the settings tab you checked every now and then to help guide you through all the action

Yeah. i do I find absolutely no point in attaining it. You don't attain anything. it is absolutely pointless to a degree that you can't even imagine and so, for that reason, i try to steer people away from enlightenment as much as i can. Those who are not steered away, are the genuine few who do not "want" to be enlightened, but who can't help themselves. You can't even say that they desire to be enlightened, it so happens that enlightenment desires them, and so they need to be directed to it by someone who has went through the process. Other than that, its a waste of time for most people, which is ALOT of people, atleast that is what i think for now

@The0Self stop it your killing him ??

After developing your senses to a certain level which in other words mean; The more conscious you become You can sense a subtle "feeling" or "aura" around the body that extends directly proportionately to the level in which you can sense it, in other words; directly proportionate your level of awareness. The collective has a certain level of awareness in which it is operating at. In isolation, i can greatly increase my level of awareness to a degree where it is well beyond the collective's level of awareness i will talk about "osmosis" as an example for what i am trying to explain, the medium being energy. i will also be talking about levels of awareness with numbers to try to explain what is being said more precisely: When in isolation, my level of awareness in comparison to the collectives level of awareness is 1000:100 When enmeshed with the collective, my level energy gradually raises the collective's but in an extremely ineffective proportion, so my level of awareness will decrease, and the collective's level awareness will increase, until we reach a balance of 200:200. We can see that the decrease in my awareness in relation to the increase in the collective's awareness to reach a balance is extremely inefficient: a decrease in energy of the individual by 800 for an increase of energy of the collective by 100 Is there a way to develop a skill in which you can control the balance of energetic transmutation between the 2 parties, the collective and the individual, where for instance a decrease in energy by 500 for an increase of energy by 500, Creating a balance of 500:500? or Is it possible to control the individual's level of awareness to not effect the collective at all, that is to say to stop the "osmosis effect" from happening?

it is! ?

You could say that everyone is enlightened but very few realize that literally in their actual direct experience. many would just say it while sleepwalking, so they would just intellectualize about it, stuck inside their minds and too afraid to have the ball sack to actually see it for themselves

@sir meowski Its his business, what else would he do lol i think he is just passionate about what he does for a living, which is talking about the non dual and experiencing mystical/alternative states of consciousness If that is what he wants to do so be it, allow him the freedom of doing that don't let that stop you from doing your own work, its your life, not his. For leo, its his life, not yours.

The question is endless lol there is a loophole in any answer because the question is a loop My opinion though still remains: For the fun of it. ? Why do you dream at night? becaaaause if you didnt, what else would there be? it would be boring as hell that there wouldnt be anyone to claim that it was boring as hell. thats how boring it would be! ?

it does not

Look at anything. You are the reference point that is looking at a thing in presence. That is a thing appearing in front of you in space and time. 2 points must co appear simultaneously in order for there to be some thing. "Thing" is a 3rd party observer, that is "enlightenment" in this example. "Thing"="enlightenment", = being "nothing"

for the fun of it! ?

Has anyone tried to substitute sleeping into being/meditating instead? So instead of sleeping 8 hours a day, sitting in silence for that duration What are your thoughts?

@MarkusSweden enlightened people say whatever they want to say

Considering that you opened, i am warning you now, this post will trigger you. All posts on this section of actualized.org are distractions from the real work. All those "stories" and "fantasies" and "enlightenment experiences". This is what i am talking about. Its all bullshit. There is no such thing as an enlightenment experience There is no such thing as an awakening Anyone who claims to have had an enlightenment "experience" is lying to you and to himself simultaneously What is happening is that there is literally an ego typing up whatever experience it claims to have had to distract itself from facing that there is no ego typing up this, and hence there is no fucking experience to be had or to have happened. It isn't wrong to do this, but it is fucked up if you don't know that THAT is what you are doing and so this post is to create awareness on that. i am simply pointing the reader what is happening in here, inside of the enlightenment section. ✌️

@Forza21 it will take some time for the mind to adjust to the realization you had. In the meantime, you can try doing some shadow work, sitting with your emotions, feeling them, all that good shit

@Shin Your sentence exposed exactly how your mind works, how it is defending itself. Look closely at what you wrote, and examine it. you are describing something that has never happened, an experience, claiming it to be "beyond". Now Who is caught up in terminology? You are. There is no such thing.

@Egzoset rich dad poor dad, anything that deals with your financial intelligence/education

@Someone here can we say there is no now?

kill the mind. Drop it once and for all. Detach from it. It will ALWAYS Always always try to find solutions, that is its job. Just like the hearts job is to pump blood to your organs Just like your dicks job is to pee and fuck the minds job is to find solutions to anything that stands in its way.

@Thought Art to anything and everything ever created. All beliefs are false. even those beliefs that come in the form of spirituality. Especially those beliefs that come in the form of spirituality. Its all BS. Its standing in the way of truth, which is what "spirituality" ultimately aims at. in other words, spirituality is standing in the way of itself. Its fucking twisted ?