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https://x.com/Channel4News/status/1856693525238136909 A former NHS surgeon, who spent a month working in southern Gaza, testifying about children in Gaza being shot by drones.

It's like trying to escape an abusive family by making a deal with and trusting in another devil.. Sadly, it has been a repetitive theme though so it's quite believable that some really fall for it.

That's actually sad and alarming. Short-sighted liberals always fall for this trap. If they are so liberal minded then they better start reading some history.

Very difficult footage to see but citizen media must be highlighted - Bombing civilian tents and burning people alive has been an acceptable practice according to the IDF. https://www.instagram.com/p/DBFUaddoqbf/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/p/DBEas7AgOuK/

I think one important thing that must be highlighted is that most of the archives and records related to Palestine has either been destroyed or hidden by the Israeli military. With all that has been shared on this thread and history books, there is still more that will remain unknown. "Of the roughly 14.8 million files kept by the Israeli State Archives and the IDF, no more than 191,204 are accessible for public consultation, the equivalent of 1.29%" Source: https://www.akevot.org.il/en/news-item/1-29-state-access-israeli-government-archives/ https://merip.org/2019/09/israels-vanishing-files-archival-deception-and-paper-trails/

This channel has some high quality conversations regarding the conflict. I think every Israeli with an open mind and heart must listen to them.

Nobody is denying the existence of Islamisim or Islamic extremism, but trying paint the Palestinian behavior entirely in this light, is not only irrelevant but is also nothing but a fundamental misunderstanding of the entire conflict. The early resistance was secular and they were also painted as terrorists. After almost 80 years, maybe it's time to take a step back and actually question why these people have been resorting to all different types of resistance, instead of dehumanizing them ? Or, maybe after the death of almost 50,000 or god knows how many, it's time to stop giving excuses/rationalization to the ones who have the power to change the situation - no matter how right or wrong they are?

Canada, USA and Australia were all settlers colonies that had no right to exist either. The difference here is that these countries have finally given citizenship to the local population and are no longer actively trying to genocide them. That was something in the past that cannot be changed. On the other hand, Israel at the moment is actively committing a genocide and is still denying the right of return for the local population. See the difference? Israel started as a settler colony at a time most people were fighting for liberation, it was just too late for them to join their other settler friends.

It has nothing to do with Jews or non Jews. it very simple you can't displace people from their homes under any circumstances. 2 wrongs don't make a right. No solution will ever be reached if Zionists don't acknowledge the destruction and violence they caused when they started their project. One they acknowledge this there will be a chance for actual peace. The problem here is the insistance of denial.

That's not the official standing for most of Israeli politicians anymore, including Benny Gantz who voted in favor and Yair Lapid who skipped it. Israel's Knesset votes overwhelmingly against Palestinian statehood as Netanyahu prepares for U.S. visit Palestinians have officially no partners for peace, before it was under the table with the nonstop settlements but now they are upfront. It's clear most support the war. The matter of conflict seems to be the case of prioritizing rescuing the hostages first (but they are free to continue the war afterwards).

I guess those following points should not be open for debate anymore: Israel should evacuate settlements, pay reparations, ICJ says World Court Finds Israel Responsible for Apartheid

You're still glossing over the fact that it's Israel who cornered Palestinians into a situation in which the only type of resistance or armed forces they get is represented by small groups; whom due to their incapability, resort to guerilla warfare tactics. The ethics of guerilla warfare has always been a matter of debate as there is no limit to their tactics. It changes according to each situation, conflict, culture...etc. That's why, even if the Serbia example is true, it still misses the big picture. Their main survival tactic is focused on avoiding head-on confrontations with their enemy, again because of their inferior arms and forces . In the case of Hamas, that's where you see them prioritizing their survival over the Gazan population, or hiding hostages among civilians. Their goal is to resist under all circumstances to force the enemy to withdraw. If Palestinians have their own state and own army, they will be able to protect their civilians, they wouldn't need to carry out chaotic attacks that kills both civilians and combatants, nor would they ever need to take civilian hostages. They would get the privilege to engage in an organized, symmetric and ethical warfare and that is what precisely Israel doesn't want.

Sadly nothing in the horizon as long as people like Netanyahu are allowed to remain in power. I appreciate you acknowledging this.. Hearing some of those Ben Gurion lines, or even worse those religious fanatics who call for Greater Israel from Nile to Euphrates would make any Palestinian or Arab unlikely to agree to any of this in the beginning. Even if Ben Gurion was just a far-right voice and not a representative of all Jewish people but he was still the main rep and leader of the country at its creation. I agree with you here.