AtheisticNonduality

Okay, let me use my Te for a second. The philosopher educated at Duke University and who wrote an eight-hundred-page tome on this topic has literally no idea what he's talking about? Or the high IQ upper-Green-level person . . . ???

Clear Light.

But Nietzsche said those who believed voluptuousness was spirit were led astray. His concepts of value-enforcement seem more identity-based, not based in dissolving one's identity into Nature. I would say postmodernism is actually post-ego, although not as fully as God-states. Modernism is when individual identity becomes more valued than group mentality.

No, it's because the relative doesn't stop existing when it's realized that the Absolute permeates it and is its nest. Some actions have different consequences than others, in "good" against "bad" and other such dualities. You might see that all these are the Same, but they are not the same.

Above Eckhart Tolle levels of mysticism certainly. It's advanced by the top. T4 though would involve some modification, perhaps paranormal-seeming degrees of compassion or infinite-like applied intelligence. Once human genome editing is legalized it's basically all over, in one ignorant point of view. And then truthfully, alternatively, history goes on forever, until the climax when God is produced.

And so understanding the self as a transcendental agency (a la Kant) is more modern, rather than immersing yourself in a pantheistic Nature as planes of immanence (like interpretations of Spinoza), which is more romantic. So of course you would side with the more pre-self way of spirituality (ecocentric) instead of the "black magic" Left-Hand Path (egocentric). But the main point, the issue, that I'd have is that the ego is actually a higher development than ecology and that immersion in ecology is healthy but not final, and that it is not the highest spiritual ascent. The means of pre-self spirit is not able to jump up to post-self as effectively as self, because post-self is more consecutive with self and has its functioning understood better by an ego than by a pre-ego, though the failure to develop an ego in the first place (or a regression which would be basically identical) ostensibly resembles this realm of transcendence we call God more.

So the "black magical" path of the self emulating the Self into/until they become One?

Because he was, indeed, conflating the absolute and the relative.

Okay, so consider a person experiences spiritual (emergent) phenomena, goes to a medical doctor, and is misdiagnosed with psychosis or another sort of disorder. That is based in ignorance. The purpose of the program is to scientifically study, model, and integrate spiritual states to avoid mischaracterization. For example, if someone has a vision of fractal geometry and sees a bright white light, rather than being misinterpreted as psychosis, mania, a temporal lobe seizure, a hallucination of some kind, there should be had an understanding of why that is spiritual, by mapping out spiritual patterns (ie. the stages of insight), phenomenologically and with fMRI machines. There should exist a proper understanding of the physical and "spiritual" importances of these states and how they work and what they mean and how they relate to meditation and noticed stages and such. That's why it's the Emergent Phenomenology Research Consortium, Emergent (in relation to spiritual states emerging) Phenomenology (studying phenomena, inner phenomena) Research (rigorous scientific validity involved) Consortium (organization come together).

@thisintegrated With the Wilber model, aspects of Tier 3 are there, if not entirely. Assuming the human brain is left untouched deep-structurally, there are more stages beyond Turquoise.

@thisintegrated Do you know how to read ? ?

Then he = Yellow, by your definition. Somebody at Green would think of these things religiously, not understanding their place in a wider systematic framework of pattern recognizability and potential integration. This is his main project at the moment, very post-Green. https://theeprc.org

Not history specifically, combat. I know an ENTP that collects military memorabilia, like old helmets and a jacket with a bullet hole and some blood, and who's memorized a lot of different conflicts.

It sounds more like a human being, rather than dissociated information. How should we distinguish high IQ upper-Green and Yellow itself? All of these graphs map the insight stages, according to him (cyclically).

The speed changer is an alternative means that modifies Youtube into something it isn't, desecrates it beyond repair. No, the insight stages are more Yellow than Green. Remember, the Arising and Passing Away is 4/16, is lower on the temporal hierarchy.

I don't use any alternative means of listening. I'm stuck with Youtube for him. You just can't tap into that wavelength then.

But Leo, couches can't talk.

Yes. They go back to sleep.

No, I thought "Citations????" was completely seriously.

It's not a technique massively over-reliant on luck since the infant actually became immune, so specific parts of the genome may be targeted. The other infant which didn't receive immunity, to my knowledge, did not come out with flippers and Dolly the clone sheep levels of disability. I understand this is not something people are ready for. But how much of it is based in anti-eugenics fearmongering deontologically (human genome editing is strictly unethical) versus an actual technical issue (the technology is not yet ready; the techniques are imperfect and might have unintended genetic consequences . . .)? We're able to slaughter tens of billions of animals each year to sustain ourselves. People are able to have extraordinarily unhealthy eating practices (corporately orchestrated) and die off by the millions. Our society is run by scum in the state and dangerously unempathetic and unintelligent magnates. And yet we can't edit a few infants to give them elevated capacities of empathy, or even intelligence? But partially, ?'s advocate.

@thisintegrated The one that singlehandedly deleted Big 5 from relevancy and debunked all of modern psychology without any citations is asking for me to cite my sources . . . .

So all things are One but can only exist unconnected. ???? The two realities of two moments share the same over-Reality, and their connection is not just through concept; they actually form a chain, even if two links of a chain are "otherwise unconnected." A source is required since your position was based on something you heard. The quality of the information you were receiving needed confirmation. You're imagining that you're imagining that you're im--- . . . etc. Conflating Imagination (divine) with imagination (human merely) is a shame. But that is probably not what you're trying to do. You could say the light only exists in a human mind since all the other moments besides the present Now have no reality of their own (they are "otherwise unconnected" or imagined only conceptually), the same way you cannot know other perspectives besides your own to exist (solipsism). But the analogy to solipsism doesn't work because the experiencer has the ability/potential to witness multiple moments (via the equation experience as we know it = motion).

How can you have a timeline where the time-points aren't connected? Cite your source. "Who cares if one more light goes out in a sky of a million stars? . . . I do."

That level of nonduality makes all things identical, including rightness and wrongness morally but also ontologically, truthfully, really; that is, if you say there is no moral difference between two acts based on your nondual perceptions, you must also admit that the supposed "truth" of this statement is equally imaginary with its opposite and permeated by the same God, you must admit Evil and Love being the same is the same as Evil and Love not being the same. And of course, Evil and Love have different forms, though they are attributes of the same substance. If you are moving from one reality to the next, both realities are real, or existent. They exist, such as 1 exists and 1 exists, therefore 2 exist. One moment exists and one moment exists, thereby meaning time as them together exists. The only way to collapse motion, moments strung together, is to deny what your experience is. You have never seen a frozen "single-moment" in your life, just motion.