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A little update: The energy hasn't decreased at all. It's absolutely insane and remarkable how intense the experience still is. I got kind of used to the vibrations in the body. They are not really unpleasant. (Someone else told me it could also be a sign that my body is still in panic / Fight or flight mode). Tinnitus is really loud. Hard to get used to that one. 3 times now I heard a sound of a deep singing bowl in my right ear at night. Very interesting phenomena. First time it kind of freaked me out. Now I'm meeting it with curiosity. Focusing on the sound as an object for meditation doesn't do anything special. Trying to distract myself from it works during the day. The emotional turmoil, disorientation and confusion is what's most challenging. I am in such an open state that I feel everything very intense. A lot of fear is there. And I don't really know why. It seems like all spiritual practice and understanding I've learned over the years is being tested or has to be re-learned from scratch. The foundation of my life has been my sense of purpose and that is being shaken (a lot) through this heavy earthquake. It's hard to grasp onto anything. There is a sense of groundlessness. I have been searching for my old sense of self, but there's nothing there. It doesn't exist (obviously). Still, it's a very sad feeling that comes up, recognizing it's loss ( "I" really liked that version of myself). Interesting sidenote: my girlfriend felt disconnected from me while we were spending time together. (Maybe that was also because I was sick and driving 30hours to Spain), but still very interesting. (And sad). The openness had also a positive side to it (but less so than the suffering and struggle). I went to a mantra singing circle, chanting Sat Nam Mantras. And it resonated as so much Truth that I cried and cried and cried. It was a big release. Still. Tripping for almost 2 months now is very exhausting in a sense. Hard to find a balance between doing something to resolve that state, focusing on it and making people in my surroundings aware of it and keeping it to myself ( I don't wanna bother people too much with it, displays a certain sense of self-centeredness), just going on with life (sadly away from my purpose) and ..... I don't know. There are many more details but that's about it for now. Blessings

Your are not gonna have tolerance if you just do it once a week.

Personally, I find other psychedelics to be more effective for that purpose.

@LSD-Rumi I took a good amount of Vitamin C and 5-HTP supplements for a few days after the experience.

Thanks for all the responses! They helped me a lot! Okey, a little update: @Breakingthewall Wow, LSD + 5-MeO-DMT sounds very intense! @Leo Gura Now it has been 1 week since that experience. The intensity of the aftereffects has not decreased at all. Maybe even increased in intensity at times (it comes in waves). But I am less afraid of it. There is still very intense vibrations in the body. I wake up at 3 AM completely electrified. Feels like I am charged with so much energy. Even at daytime I am shaking a lot. Feeling it all the time. My guess is it´s coming from the 5-MeO-DMT, as I feel like I am on a modereate dose of 5-MeO 24/7. I feel a little spaced out. Extremely aware. Similar visual distortions. I spoke to a friend and he reminded me of the concept of "Kundalini -Energy- Awakening". It does sound very similar to what I am experiencing. But I don´t know too much about it. Anybody here who has some advice on how to move that energy? Work throgh it? Release it? Ground myself in that experience? @Razard86 Thanks for sharing these words. Intellecutually I knew that permanent changes should be expected from this work. Experiencing such intense, radical changes in perception without psychedelics for the first time just caught me a little bit off-guard. (Wow, now I just start to begin to apprechiate the work some of you guys do here, of tripping for a month straight, back-to-back, for a month.) I asked myself:- -What is there to be afraid of? --- Nothing! -What am I not willing to face? -Could I manage to live in this state permanetely? -- Yeah, I could manage. Maybe focus on a lot of practices to calm the nervous system (Yin Yoga, Slow Breathing, etc.) to find my way back to grounding and peace. Through that I am now able to allow that which wants to unfold to unfold. In it´s own time. Letting go. Trusting. Surrendering into it. It is still very intense. I can´t really work or focus. Cause all my attention is drawn into this process, when I am not distracting myself. There is also and underlying sense of suffering and very challenging emotional labor that I notice. @Jowblob Yeah, I notice that I was kind of attached to my baseline state of conciousness. I really liked it. And I really apprechiate that, grounded, peaceful state that is able to enjoy the little casual things in life. It is good to let go of that attachment tho, as this work requires letting go of the attachment to any state. Not prefering any state over another. @OBEler Could you share the interviews you refered to? It was not my first "Breakthrough" or God-Realization. I had a few before on different substances and also on -MeO-DMT. All had different flavours to them. The experiences I had here were not too shocking in the moment. Just intese and very beautiful. I was not in shock, but in absolute awe. @BlurryBoi Both was not the case. @Carlos MK What made this worry so interesting is that I usually never expereince any worry. I am one of the most centered and clam persons I know. This is why I was so suprised by the senssation of worry, fear and anxiety, as I am not familiar with these sensations and expereinces. Thanks for sharing these reassuring words of support! @PurpleTree It was an incredible trip! So beautiful. So insightful. So healing. I´ll post a more extensive trip report on YouTube oneday. @Aaron p Yeah, I was not aware of the intense release of any inhibitions in the MDMA expererience. I don´t plan to do MDMA more than 2x per year. Maybe even less. @deamordeamar Glad this thread is resonating so much! All the best on your path! You´ll get through this! That´s also a good saying I remebered: "The only way out is through". There is much more detail in my perception and other interesting stuff is going on (like eating 5 grams of mushrooms in my dream and actually feeling it coming on strong pretty strong, waking up and still seeing all the visuals in the room). In the last days I was conciously distracting myself a lot, spending time with family, being in nature, eating, mundane stuff. It helped me process a lot but still there seems to be something that wants to come to the surface. I actually signed up for my first 10 day Vipassana retreat next week (independed from this experience) and wonder if it is a good idea to actually go. First my tendency was leaning towards "no", because of fear, but now I lean more towards "yes" out of curiousity and excitement. I want to look at whatever is coming up. I think it could be the perfect time for integrating this experience, no matter how difficult it might get. Blessings, Blessings, Blessings One and All. Om Shanti.

Look up Kilindi Iyi

Maybe look into the work of Stanislav Grof. He talks a lot about similar experiences.

One of the very few good academic research projects in the psychedelic space. What are your thoughts on it? https://www.youtube.com/live/Myq_Hc_39aI?feature=share

What's the dose of Bufo Alvarius that gets you to a nice breakthrough?

Interesting, 60-70mg didn't quite got me there, so I'm thinking to ramp up to ~100mg.

Yeeah, it's a strange one for sure. But honesty, a lot of substances are. I can relate to your dilemma. I would say next time you decide to go in, make sure you're 100% dedicated to embrace every experience that wants to occur. It's truly mind blowing how it can increase the intensity 4 hours into the trip sometimes.

https://youtu.be/xoVJKj8lcNQ Amazing presentation about the topic!

Soo, a lot of "new age" Ayahuasca retreat centers offer a Bufo Alvarius ceremony in between Ayahuasca drinking days. That´s actually how I first consumed it. After diving a bit into psychedelic literature I have read from many different sources that it can be quite dangerous to combine the MAO-I with the Bufo in a timeframe of 24 hours and it is not recommended. It think about joining one of these "new age" retreats again and think about doing the Bufo as well. Do you guys have any experiences / knowledge about the safety of this? (Obviously it´s not that dangerous cause otherwise the retreats would stop doing it, but also keeping the possible adverse effects from the harmala alkaloids and 5-MeO-DMT in mind - But I´ve also heard about some Ayahuasa brews containing 5-MeO DMT .... You see, there´s just so much conflicting information out there. )

Sooo, I had a really intense and deep Mushroom experience this morning and during it a funny question popped into my mind: Can / Does the Mushroom Intelligence desire liberation? A part of the trip was about the Mushroom entity, where they come from, what purpose do they serve and all that shabang. Clearly there´s an intelligence to this mycelium network. It sometimes feels like it is a concious organism. More concious and aware than animals or insects. So after I had a glimpse into the nature of Truth and Love and Creation itself, I asked myself if the mushrooms are striving for God-Realization and enlightenment as well?!? How would that process even look like for them? Or is it not possible / necessary? Also, the same question could not apply to synthentic chemicals like 5-MeO-DMT or 4-HO-DMT. Or could it? Cause people also have entitiy encounters on synthetic chemicals. Well, in the end there is only one who can be liberated and that is me. All is me. All is God. I am imagining a mushroom intelligence. Just some fynny thought to contemplate. What do you think?

A friend of a friend had couldn't handle LSD. He saw the devil everywhere. Tried to kill himself, with needles or jumped in front of cars. Ran naked through my apartment and bothered the neighbors with it. He punched through my computer screen and destroyed the water tap. We had to call the ambulance cause we couldn't deal with him anymore after a few hours. His parents are very close to mine and that's how my parents found out that I work with these substances. Very interesting to see all that happen on LSD tho. The defense mechanisms of the Ego are amazing.

First of all: Beautiful that you had such a profound experience! "It feels like my life purpose is to work with this medicine, embody the wisdom imparted by it, and perhaps one day to share this medicine with others." - I would recommend that you are aware that you have almost no experience with this medicine whatsoever. If you feel the call to share this medicine with others, please work with it A LOT more to really get to know these realms more deeply.

I recommend reading "LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven" by Christopher M. Bache. Reading about the experiences he had made me shiver. Maybe these experiences are part of your journey to God. Or maybe there actually is another reason why they turned out so dark.

I´ve done Kambo a few times now. The experience is not enjoyable and I didn´t notice any benefits afterwards. So I don´t see the point in doing it unless I am sick. But it also helped two of my friends to heal cancer, which was quite astonishing to see. (It was probably not the only cause for the cure). The discomfort during the expereince makes you appreciate not being on Kambo though Please don´t do that. If you have to vomit (which is very likely) fine. If not, also fine. Definetly have somebody there while you go through your first few experiences.

Sounds like Leo's life purpose course could provide some value to gain some clarity

So I've been trying to plug 5-meo-dmt two times now, but I haven't felt much of the effects. I used Apple vinegar mixed with coconut oil to resolve the substance in. Did everything like Leo explained in the 'How to plug psychedelics' video. First try: 3 scoops, ~16mg Second try: 5 scoops ~ 36mg Not much happend in the experiences, just felt a very subtle change in consciousness. (for about an hour) I don't know how to proceed, cause I don't have that much substance left. Isn't it a waste of substance plugging in even higher doses when you just need 5-30mg to go all the way with smoking? How to find out if it's my technique or if I just need to increase the dose way more?

Good one! I know what you mean when you say you come out and love and appreciate this duality that we percieve haha! I feel like I wanna explore Salvia further. It´s so radical. One really experienced guy told me once after I asked him why Salvia is his favourite substance (and he has tried hundreds) : "It´s so bad that it´s good".

Take action. Fail forward.

Look at all the options, see wich ones you like and just buy one. Don´t be cheap. Better buy a product that´s a little more expensive but good quality than a cheaper one that breaks very fast. I got this one when I started out https://www.amazon.de/Fotopro-Smartphone-Handyhalterung-Gorillapod-Digtalkamera/dp/B07DDBXYW7/ref=sr_1_35?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=2V5WZE7IJ2R0U&keywords=mini+tripod&qid=1668715567&sprefix=mini+trip%2Caps%2C255&sr=8-35 But with tripods there is not much you can do wrong when you get one of the more popular ones. And when you you don´t like it, you use it for a bit, sell it and buy another one.

@Vincent S Thanks for all the detailed information! I´ll try to convert it with a different vinegar and I´ll be more careful mixing it. Other than that I did everything very similar to how you described it. Yeah, it´s me Vergo from YouTube @OBEler I think my experiences were with 4-5cm, but I´ll try to be more accurate next time. Got a good syringe, fasted for 15 hours before, usually eat no dairy products anyways and emptied everything that was left before. Thanks! @Breakingthewall Good objection, maybe I´ll try to stay around 30mg and try to get the technique right. Tried snorting around 20mg yesterday, mild effects, stronger than the plugging experiences but still just close to threshold/ light dose. @Leo Gura Aye, captain @Girzo Aye. I think I´ll try to experiment with plugging and snorting more in the future when I have more of the substance at hand. But will try vaping it for now. Any e-mesh recommendations? Anybody knows if you can also vape Bufo with any device? Or just with Glas Pipe + torch?