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No shit . You're saying the obvious here .I understand that from the absolute level there is nothing to search for and all is well just as it is . But if we talk a lil bit from unenlightened perspective then it makes sense to seek money ..comfort ..happiness etc and not seek to be slaughtered to death right ?

Just stop posting about hell and insanity and god knows what else .why not post about goodness ..love ..happiness..heaven? Why are you endlessly wandering about hell realms and this and that imagined fantasy of the unknown..? Truth is we don't know. Start here. Don't speculate about "well since existence is infinity then it follows logically that hell exists and square-triangles 🔽 exist" It's not that. It isn't that because that doesn't exist. That imagined future state does not and cannot exist. And it would be unimaginably terrible if anything remotely like it could and did exist. It would be a state so incredibly painful and evil that it is worse than any death one can imagine. Buddhist's goal is called Nirvana. Nirvana is simply a death without rebirth. It would be a lifeless nothingness so extreme that nothing could come out of it ever again . And that awful absurd lifelessness is what some people desperately do their best to imagine when they imagine a heaven..aren't they ? Do you enjoy anything more than a nice deep sleep ? "Heaven" is to wake up every day..look around at your world..and honestly say "When I think about heaven.. I imagine THIS" that is inner peace. That is true happiness. That is nirvana. That is heaven. It is to be in heaven and know it's heaven.

I agree 👍 . It's like most people on this section would be better off posting on the mental and emotional issues section. As If they are all going through suffering and stuff like dark night of the soul..existential crisis ..overthinking about "harsh " truths of life like death and whatnot . What do you suggest is the solution? I suggest that people start filling their time with positivity instead .and positivity breeds positivity just like I mentioned about law of attraction that one tends to attract to their lives whatever they are firmly focusing on .kinda like placebo .

Easy .Jesus never even existed. Close your eyes ..think "Jesus". Now open your eyes ..where is "Jesus "? He only exists as a phantom of imagination in your mind .Leo has a great episode called "what is Actuality?". Check it out . Don't be so sure about that .maybe since God is Love that our ultimate destination in existence is eternal happiness. In fact for People who gave actually awoken..its not a " maybe " for them ..its undoubtedly true . I know an enlightened guy who runs a forum similar to this forum who told me after all of it ..you will end up in infinite never ending unchanging bliss .

Then hell exists if you take datura seeds .what about if nobody took datura seed? Besides..I'm digging deeper here ..my question is why people are wondering if hell exists and not wondering if eternal happiness and peace exists ? To me it makes no sense .you should be searching for happiness not for suffering. Am I wrong here ?

They are actually equal . Just as you did study in chemistry in school that in any chemical reaction the number of atoms in must equal the numbers of atoms out . So there is perfect balance and harmony in the universe.

No I just have interacted with you a lot on the forum and I know exactly how you work .I'm not in the mood for 5 pages of endless back and forth trynna outsmart each other .that's all .

I didnt mention probably that i Accept my suffering. That's the only way out. Everyone is going to suffer at some point in their life. That's inevitable. no matter what you think..you are going to suffer. For years.. You'll feel insecure and weird and dull. There will be a war inside you that will sometimes lead you to the brink of madness. You'll be hopeless..not knowing what to do. You will want to go back to a "normal life".and find that it's impossible. And you'll have to live with the terrible fear that you are completely wrong. And the message is that it's ok. It's a okay to suffer sometimes. This is the truth and nothing but the truth. Feel free to love me or attack me. I don't care. All I care about is spitting some raw truth.

@Princess Arabia OK. You just want to argue and win an argument. I'm not concerned with that. Nothing more to say to you. Just dont ruin the thread .

@Princess Arabia In the "here and now " you wouldn't call your experience heavenly or hellish.. It's somewhere in the middle. So whats the obsession with hell about ? Ive been posting on this forum for 6 years now .i have read 10000000 threads about "if reality is infinity then doesn’t that mean hell exist 😱"? why are peopld not wondering " since reality is infinity ..doesnt that mean the most pleasurable heaven imaginable must exist "? now you create your experience via focus and law of attraction .keep thinking of hell and you gonna end up in it .or cut the foolishness and keep focusing on how to recontextulaize life as heaven .

@Hojo so what's the solution to all these endless existinital fears ? Can you think of anything other than not caring and live your life without virusing your mind with such scary destiny? If you've got a better solution please let me know upfront . Isn't that so hippy of you ,all mighty Monalisa analysor, to say ?

@Aaron p that's cute and bambi and all .. But OP is asking if shit like this exist :

Exactly.

I know this is disappointing (for those who don't grasp it yet) ..but anything and everything is a mystical phenomenon . An out-of-this-world trip on DMT where you encounter aliens with 5 heads and 10 dicks or meeting god and playing chess with him in the 11th dimension is no different than this experience right now . Both are totally unknowable . @Schizophonia let's end it here .apologies if I crossed a line .no worries.

It's the default of every human not just me . But most people play pretend that they actually know squat . No body knows a goddam thing including that Schizophonic kid jumping on your butt at every chance he gets . Just examine your knowledge and realize you ain't got a single clue about anything. It's not difficult to do .just do it .

@Schizophonia look who is talking lol..an obsessed with drugs and pharmacology kid who is simpin on a woman twice his age . No offence. I can be a bully too. When I want to .but your soft white butt can't handle it .

What if I'm not Indian but been fooling you guys all along and playing basketball with your dumbass skulls ?

@Sugarcoat jihanum is the Arabic word for hell . What I mean is i suffer everyday physically and mentally. I don't give a crap about medieval era because its just a thought in your head it never even happened. Go wake up at 4:45 AM everyday and exhaust the shit out of yourself by going through unbearable suffering until you drop dead metaphorically on bed at 10PM with the only refuge mentally masturbating on this forum I've reached 100% complete not knowing which is no joke. I don't know why are we even alive …we suffer all the time no matter how good life we have.. we see others sufferings way too much sometimes we feel helpless about the issue and sometimes we ignore it.. I don't know what's the purpose of my life anymore other than just surrender to god as a kid we do our dies we make friends we get bullied..we bully other…we receive love ..we give love..we receive hate we give out hate…we work hard we make money….we spend it on ourselves..or our family or things which make us happy etc But we are never satisfied. We get inspired or we get insecure.. But for what we are doing all this?? At the end their is death… We expect from others but people can leave anytime anywhere… We want power..we want respect..we want everything which we deserve or even more than that.. We want acceptance from others yet we say we don't care..all of us wants validation…idk for what.. Idk I just don't know.

@Sugarcoat sweetheart you've got no clue what degree of suffering I go through on daily basis. I literally live my life full on jihanum. You are a woman so you won't understand. Men already live in hell . So they ain't afraid of any hell after death .

@Hojo hojo listen cuz I won't repeat it again : I have made peace with all of reality . Let whatever the fuck happens to happen . Zero fucks given .to achieve this you must attain something called spiritual liberation. I'm not afraid from the idea of falling forever.. An endless free fall.. Imagine falling down in an endless spiral with no bottom forever.. I don't fear this . Or maybe you are afraid from the idea of being stuck inside a room with no doors.. Just four walls.. You stuck between four walls.. For eternity? I don't care about that . What about the idea of these four walls starting to get tighter and tighter untill they crush your body into pieces? I don't care about that . But then you will die.. That might be a refuge.. How about the four walls getting so tight just enough to make you almost crushed.. But not fully yet.. Such that you can't move and will be stuck like that... Forever? I don't care about that . How about being conscious inside darkness forever? Losing your sight? Are you afraid of going blind? I don't. Im not denying hell because im afraid from the idea of hell..or Being stuck inside a lava chamber burning and suffering unimaginable amounts of pain forever..if that's God's will then so be it . Humans are afraid of pain basically.. Right? All kinds of pain.. How about all kinds of pain possible all at once for endless time.. Are you afraid of that? As a male..you sure have some castration anxiety no? And women are afraid of breast cancer or afraid of infertility right.. As a child you were afraid of losing your parents in a car accident no? As a grown up..you are afraid to die alone or to spend your last years with the company of no one? Are you afraid of regret? Of failure ? Of realizing at your death bed that you did it all wrong? That you fucked up big time? And that there is no going back? What else are you afraid of? The argument that OP seems to posit that reality is absolutely infinite and that you wil in fact will experience all of these things inevitably and there is no escape?.. How does that change your relationship with existence? I'm asking YOU this question not ME because I just told you the answer from my point of view .

@Hojo I did grant you that point but you ignored my second point which is more important .let's assume the worst tormental hell ever does indeed exist ..then what to do ? Lose sleep over this ?or kill myself ? Or end up in insane asylum? It's pointless to worry about something which you have no control over . do you worry about how your heart is beating right now ? Or how your digestive system is processing food right now? Or how your lungs are inhaling and exhaling now ?

@Hojo so how is this game played ? Tell me the rules cuz It sounds fun . I can point to"myself " as the body .this human chimp sitting here typing this . In any case its mallow since you'd have to first define what's a "yourself ". I'm not scared of hell anymore because even if hell does exist..then what can be done ? God/reality will and is going to do with me whatever it wants . I have come to peace with all of reality .

Yet you buy that "reality exists and it sucks because God is crazy ". 😂

It's totally related. Totally. Look what you said here : My mom is a psychiatrist. She told me literally 90% of mental health issues are related someway or another to sexual issues . And Sigmund Freud also have said this . It is very real when I say if you have sexual repression for a long time which seems unsolvable then you might literally go insane .

@Princess Arabia timelessness is good word as well. Im not attached to the expression "here &now ". Use whatever wording you enjoy as long as you grasp what I mean .