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Life’s a gift .you did not ask for it . So you wouldn’t mind returning it ?

You could say it was for political reasons as well and to control the ignorant masses and riding them with carrot and stick ..the stick being hell . But I don’t think that’s the existential origin for this story of hell. Remember that religion is essentially forms of spiritual teachings which have been watered down to mainstream society..the exoteric sects like Cathedral Catholic or Sunnah Wahhabism. People like Jesus or Mohammed were supposedly awakened beings who had interpreted their awakenings into stories and tales to Make sense of the world . In the mind of Christian’s and Muslims hell is a place you go to after death because you rejected god ..but hell to Jesus himself is the state of being disconnected from god right now . That’s how I feel about it . thanks for your support I appreciate it .

We’ve talked the other day about the not knowing thing . Yes ultimately we don’t know shit but that’s just at the level of knowing collapsing into being .but at the ordinary level I know that 1+1=2 and I know how to fry an egg even if I don’t know what is the egg existentially.

Thank you. I really appreciate that. I’m grateful to have my mother and to be able to be there for her. She will be fine. The doctors are deeply experienced with this situation. suffering is actually a nudge to awaken people from egoistic life style. Because when you are laying there in some ward not knowing what is going to happen to you you will begin to mature and gain some selflessness. Suffering forces you into expanding your consciousness being selfish living . This is important to understand to make peace with suffering. I think you make a good point. Fear of death seems natural for any living being. Maybe what matters is how we live while we’re here. If we try to be good people and do our best we can face the end without feeling like we wish to get back to life to live it correctly . That’s why you get sick every now and then. That’s god slapping your egotistical ass and telling you calm down kid .

No not at all. I enjoy my porn . All single guys watch porn ..even all those nofappers abstain and keep going back whether he’s a teenager or a young guy or old man. I don’t have any shame about it . It’s an easy trap still . The content is endless and some of the girls and women you see are ridiculously sexy and attractive ..this can easily become a huge obstacle for young guys and unmarried men who decide to give up on dating a real woman and instead sitting in their homes for hours jerking off to porn. And there are a lot of people who suffer from this ..but obviously some people can use it occasionally every now and then . But I find it extremely addictive for me . Also some porn categories are just not healthy for your mind . That’s all . Shortly I want to marry the most beautiful woman alive on earth..that’s how I feel about it right now..and for that to happen I need to have a desire for it to happen . And as I said why should I desire real women if I can just watch porn ? That’s how it is for me.

Thanks my friend. Likewise for you. can you explain the bolded part ? Because the point I’m making is actually the opposite. When you are young and healthy and you believe that life is still ahead of you you don’t seem to even believe that you are going to die . But people laying in hospitals suffering from old age ..cancer or the like seem to be going through hell already prior to death .

I had this insight and I would like to share . Religion describes hell in the afterlife as the destiny for people who fucked up in this life or were evildoers as a moral lecturing and a call of waking up to the reality of death . my mom had a heart attack and she is undergoing surgery. She was crying in my last talk to her before the surgery. The way it works is they basically cut through the breastbone to work on the heart . Obviously they have to make her take full body binge. She is very afraid. I wondered why . She has firm faith in god in her own unique style of those elderly people who have that detachment from this life and have that glow of unexplainable peace on their faces ..like a lot of deeply religious and faithful old people. But when the real time came for something serious like this she lost her peace and she is full of fear . And I would imagine that no matter how grounded you think you are ..you will freak out completely if your life is threatened by death or serious illness or deep deep deep suffering and turmoil. Please take some minutes and contemplate your death . I’m not trying to make you depressed or causing existential crisis for you but death is a simple fact of life . All living creatures must die . This human being you are currently identifying as is going to die one day . And it seems to me that this doesn’t click well for us precisely because it’s sooo shocking to believe. We know it mentally but we don’t want to consider contemplating it for real because it causes insane levels of fear and existential dread . so the insight I had is why in some religious contexts they describe burning in hell fire after death as a punishment for ..you know..”sinners” and those who lack faith in god . . It’s the only way to shake you awake . The Buddha has said that suffering..diseases and illnesses..old age ..and finally death are all inevitable facts of life and therefore that means this life is really not the highest form or highest quality of beingness that our souls aspire to . It’s actually very gross and exhausting. I’m not saying there is no joy or peace at all in this world but it’s certainly a mixture of joy and sadness. to get to the point ..certain religions make you afraid of hell in the after life to make you think about your death moments when you have to leave this body and experience (perhaps ) tremendous pain and most importantly the moment that comes after you die completely and face the unknown . They fill that “unknown “ with hell to nudge you to contemplate your death seriously and consider your life and wonder about it all .

ok thank you for clarifying. I think this is pedantry. Obviously I can know myself . I can know itself .

Interesting. My mother is actually right now undergoing an open heart surgery and I called her before it and she was crying because she is afraid . I know her suffering and fear is real . I can feel it . I honestly feel like this solipsism thing is false albeit innocent one . Yes the whole world is one self but it can fragment itself . A reflection of the moon can appear in two different lakes of water. The two reflections are apparent separate selves ..but the actual moon is only one . I didn’t come up with this analogy myself ..I read it somewhere.

@Mellowmarsh I’m honestly not sure what are you trying to communicate.

The absolute is both Immanent and transcendental. The only thing that exists . It’s both the formless ground or essence of everything and it’s simultaneously the very thing which appears to be the relative forms and the physical world .

I think what he said at the very end is clarifying enough . “It’s a quality .don’t confine it . Let it remain free like a fragrance “ . That is spot on imo .

They arise and fade from and into the absolute . It really doesn’t matter what words you choose for it : the absolute ..the void ..god ..pure love..emptiness . just think of falling asleep and waking up .

This is naive reductionist mentality. Yes I smoke when I’m stressed in college or in crowded traffic . I also smoke to relax at night . I also smoke after eating a delicious dense meal . I also smoke before bed to sleep . I also smoke as soon as I wake up in the morning by making a combo with French Coffe to refresh. You saying smoking is just for stress relief is off the mark . im not trying to justify it . In one word it’s an addiction . Addiction by definition means imprisonment and misery .

If you are still alive as a human body then bad exists for you or you will be a beautiful corpse .