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Nothing will Save us from what ? if you mean death then yes but there is a higher intelligence that runs everything. When you sleep ..what keeps your eyes closed? What digests your food right now ? What makes the earth orbit around the sun and around its axis? The ego self has no participation whatsoever in these processes yet something else is doing everything.

I explained why it’s pointless in the best of my humble abilities. It didn’t just say it’s pointless and leave it at that . I explained why . Try to discuss my argument and prove that it is not pointless. And “pointless “ here is not derogatory or negative . It only means that we cannot arrive at ultimate conclusion regarding this inquiry which is honestly fascinating. But I explained my opinion why it’s pointless in my opinion. Please feel free to discus my argument. Thanks .

I agree as well . Totally on point . But this reverts back to the point I made about the infinite tail chasing . We cannot say EVERYTHING.. because EVERYTHING is bigger than just saying anything forever. If reality is infinite then it will always escape any attempt to encapsulate it . Meaning once again this is a pointless discussion.

I agree . And what exactly is that ? Say it in one word .

Regarding the Leo quote he says “the only thing required to be immortal is the understanding that you are imagining death “ humble musing: obviously there is something immortal and something that dies . The immortal is itself the unborn . Call it the unborntao..infinity ..Allah.. Brahman..consciousness..infinity ..pretty much anything.the labels can vary but the thing that is being labeled is one . the thing that dies is simply forms . Any kind of form by virtue of appearing finite is born and it dies . It arises and fades away . Like this moment..and this moment ..and this moment . But obviously there is something that doesn’t ever die . The only thing that can never die is that which was never born . And the only thing that fits that definition is nothing. Or formlessness. another thing : the human being you show up as forcefully in the world called Jane or Adam or Leo is going to physically die and turn into rot in some dusty grave . If you push back and say you are imagining this ..yes totally agree I had to imagine what I just said . But see what you’re doing ? This leads to infinite loop “you are imagining X” ..”yeah sure but behind it will happen in reality “ “well you just imagined that as well right now “ …….. so where is going to lead . No conclusion is possible. and the most important part is if death is imaginary then everything is imaginary. If everything is imaginary then everything is real !! Here’s how : the imaginary world must have imaginary rules. If I took an imaginary knife and kill my imaginary body ..the imaginary body will die an imaginary death . The only thing you can do to refute this is to actually test it by taking an imaginary knife and slice off your imaginary neck . Less than it it’s totally pointless to discuss.

No problem. I apologize and I hid the message.

@Breakingthewall nothing weird about that . And that’s not what is being discussed . Obviously the body will get weak from cancer . Ramana also died of cancer . When his disciples and devotees insisted that he gets hospitalized he said the body itself is a disease . Let it die.

here’s self-inquiry Who experiences my life ? I do . Who am I ? Where did this I come from ? Where is this I ? all conceptual answers are false . Find it directly . Look inside your own being . There is no you as a fixed entity sitting there . Is this true or false ?

Osho describing his ego death .

This is false .

The ego is the feeling that you are a person separate from reality . It’s not true . There is no actual person separate from reality . So it can’t diminish or disappear because it doesn’t exist in the first place . Then why do I say the ego can’t understand this ? Because actually it’s clear as day that the ego is illusory if you care to do five minutes of self-inquiry. You are just afraid of surrendering to reality because you think surrender will make things worse but if the ego is completely gone that’s enlightenment and infinite love . You walk around nothing bothers you anymore like Ramana Maharishi . I’m not saying I’m enlightened though .

@Monster Energy It can be understood intellectually..obviously that’s not what I mean . Good luck getting a person dying of cancer to get cancer is good . Only an enlightened person would be able to do it ..in which case there is no person to do anything.the person died long before .

The ego will never understand this .

I’m dying 😂😂😂

Yeah but you still want a girl and cash so square this with that.