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Don’t even get me started . I can be rough . Keep your illusions to yourself if you don’t want them shattered . lol . But you are a good person overall . 😂

@Sugarcoat You’re overlooking something pretty obvious: people grow. That’s the whole point of doing the work. Leo is the perfect example. Years ago he was saying there was no God because he was an atheist and his view of enlightenment was basically standard Buddhist “no-self.” Fast forward to today and he’s shiting on those positions and talking about God and claiming there are endlessly deeper levels of awakening. So why would anyone expect me to be the same person I was ten years ago? Life doesn’t ask for your permission to change you. Life forces you into growth . If you don’t grow and stagnate then you’re as good as dead .

No I’m not . in truth there is no one who can claim he’s enlightened enough and speaks as an authority. Because enlightenment is the very seeing through the illusion of the separate self which is seeking to attain enlightenment. The one you’re talking to you right now and trying to expose or decipher whether he’s enlightened or not isn’t even real . So who’s enlightened ? everything i express is 100% sincere and off the cuff . If I have anger issues I say it . If I have smoking addiction I say it . If I have a spiritual understanding of some topic I say it .

But I just said I’m not .

The human body and brain is going through its own karma . I have no relationship to that whatsoever.The body still gets angry . The body still craves food and a good couple of boobs . “Enlightenment “ just means I’m not that person. I’m not that body and brain . It’s none of my business what the body is going through . I’m watching my life like it’s an interesting movie . im not enlightened. Not because I’m not good enough but because enlightenment itself means there is no one who is enlightened.

Yeah ? What is he doing anyways instead of showing his acrobatic genuineness of how to do a professional devil’s advocate ? all he’s doing is bitching about Leo not keeping up his words about the alien thing . How many times is he going to say this in the most devious manner possible?

The way I understand this btw is he is saying the ultimate truth can really never be said because once you’re “ there “ you don’t need to voice it or explain it . You just abide in the moment .

You are not explaining yourself clearly, that’s for sure. you didn’t answer the question. You once again treat this as a philosophical discussion about what is more rational instead of a scientific investigation into what is actual . what is more actual and tangible? Consciousness/experience? Or your ideas about what an “absolute “ should be ?

Take a breather. Don’t just say outrageous nonsense in the heat of the moment . Take a break . If you want of course.

You’re theorizing . In your direct experience right now is the “unlimited being “ experienced and substantiated by your consciousness or is your consciousness an emergent phenomenon from some hidden absolute being which isn’t inherently conscious? Which one comes first in your experience..not in your logicing?

thank you for sharing this . It was a mistake on my part to lump Nisargadatta Maharaj together with Ramana Maharshi and Robert Adams.there is a fundamental philosophical difference between them regarding the nature of consciousness and the Absolute. Nisargadatta repeatedly emphasizes that the Absolute (Parabrahman) is beyond consciousness. For him consciousness itself and the sense of “I am” and the entire field of experience is NOT the final reality but a temporary manifestation that appears and disappears. He seems to equate the Absolute with a state of complete absence..not consciousness..not experience not being in any ordinary sense. He often uses deep sleep as an analogy ..not because deep sleep itself is the Absolute but because it points to the absence of conscious experience. Nisargadatta says The Absolute is beyond both consciousness and unconsciousness and beyond being and non being and beyond all categories the mind can conceive. We can discuss that and find out whether it’s true but again through direct observation not only through thinking rationally because rationality isn’t fundamental.

Correct .

Mad respect !

If you have a question ask away and we’ll see if advaita has an answer. stop tiptoeing around.

@Breakingthewall thank you for your participation in this thread.