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Then never . No I don’t .

@thierry you are god . Can you understand yourself fully ? !

Well , what Islam and the Quran talk about is a mixed of things which are true , and things which are “interesting niche beliefs to study “. An example of truths : God exists . God is all-powerful . God is all-Knowing . an example of beliefs : Angels , Devils , hell , paradise , an afterlife , the day of resurrection.

Because a full understanding means there is not a single thing lacking ,not yet not understood. Since infinity never runs out of new things , god can never understand every single new thing that comes out of his own infinite creating power .

@Breakingthewall I will address your points in a minute. I need time to make sure I understand correctly.

God is infinity . Infinity , by definition, has no end . If God was able to understand itself fully , it would mean God is not infinity . so, God can never understand itself fully , because God doesn’t end . it can understand itself fully implicitly, not explicitly. You can know that God is infinity , but you can’t know how many ants are looking for sugar in some desert area right now . God is All-knowing . God knows everything. But” everything “ is infinite , not a fixed quantity .

When I said the Quran is a work of art, I was referring specifically to its literary and poetic style. Its linguistic structure is distinctive and, in my view, extraordinarily difficult to imitate. That’s also part of why I find its composition so remarkable, particularly given the traditional account of Muhammad as someone who neither read nor wrote. And when I mentioned the Baha’i writings, my point was simply that they attempt to reproduce or echo the Qur’anic style. It’s a fact . Do the research if you don’t know. I wasn’t trying to turn the conversation into a debate about “deep philosophy” or politics. I simply said that Islam is my favorite religion. Favorite does not mean I consider it the end-all and be-all of every possible question. I can admire a religion deeply without pretending that I have nothing left to question, learn, or understand. If you want to discuss Islam’s impact on politics, that’s a completely different conversation .and honestly, I don’t have enough experience or knowledge in that area to pretend otherwise. Leo taught me a principle I take seriously: don’t speak with certainty about things you don’t understand well or haven’t actually experienced. So I’m perfectly comfortable defending what I actually said, while also being honest about the limits of what I know.

I understand Arabic. The Quran , in Arabic ,has a clear and distinct musical rhythm . I’m not claiming the meaning of the phrases is a work of art or not . It mostly speaks about god’s existence, god’s qualities, the purpose of life and such topics . You could argue that any poem is a work of art . But coming from a person who claims to have direct contact with Allah (God ) , and who was historically documented to be illiterate, it makes it beautiful. The Baha’i holy book is a clear attempt at mimicking the Quranic style .

Yes . Most people don’t think they are god though and it’s not going to click in Their minds . So the better alternative is to have a relationship with god as an other ,through worship . Meet people where they are . Don’t assume that all people are at the same level of development. Islam is certainly not the most high consciousness religion, neither in the past nor today . Christianity definitely seems more conscious. I said it’s the most beautiful religion to my heart . Bahai religion is trying to mimic Islam . Their holy book is a laughable attempt at trying to produce a work of literature which is a work of art compared to the Quran .

-The theology and understanding of God is the most accurate and most close to Leo’s teaching about God . - I enjoy listening and hearing the Quran . -still a religion, means it has beliefs which can’t be verified like the afterlife , the existence of spiritual beings like angels and devils , hell , paradise . -contains primitive political ideologies and laws which only belong to the era of Islam and obviously outdated when tried to be applied to our modern world .

My favorite religion. Still a religion though , not infinite enough .

What’s the difference between the “open absolute being “ and everything? As long as you haven’t gotten to openness towards everything then you are still biased towards one outcome versus the other . And I’m not saying that’s a bad thing . Every ego or “psyche” is by definition biased towards what benefits its survival. Can you clarify this point specifically?

Ok I understand what you mean. Then openness would be still biased ?

The way I understand the word “openness “ is that it welcomes toxic behavior , not exclude it .