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Can you tell the difference between a thought of a million bucks and an actual million bucks ?

But isn't thought secondary? And direct consciousness comes first ? How exactly I know how a doorknob work using thoughts? I know it using accumulated experience. I have to first experience how to open a door then it becomes a memory (thoughts). So direct experience comes first . And thoughts are secondary.

These are the questions that I am asking. Like I said the only certain source of knowledge is sensation. Reality appears to be a bunch of separate objects with clear boundaries between them .but that's like a mirage . If you zoom into any boundary It will dissolve.

I Agree that what we know is no nowhere near even 1% of all there is to know . But what do you mean that absolute reality can only be realised directly? Aren't the senses direct? I'm not talking about perception where there is a perceived and a perceiver (subject &object ). Sensory data is absolute truth .

I think you are highly exaggerating this . Calling the cleanest diet possible "dangerous " is like saying snorting Cocaine is good for you in the long run. You did not even tell me what's lacking from this diet . Most people who only eat fruit are lean and fit. the look that people have when they’re older and they lose a lot of weight super fast and they always look kind of… Ill? Like yes..you are skinny but a weird pasty unhealthy sunken in cheekbones kind of skinny? Nah I don't want that if this diet gonna cost me to lose muscle and stuff. This is only a test .I know The body needs different types of nutrients to function properly. Protein, fats, varied fiber (I would imagine)… by no means am I an expert, but common sense tells me that it’s probably not a good idea for the long term. So I will try it and see . Are you fucking kidding me ?

Talking out of direct experience or ? I have a friend that basically eats 90% fruits all day with 1 actual meal and eventually is trying to get to a 100% fruit diet. This person also only breaks their fast with fruits(breakfast etc). Im not sure about all those negative things you mentioned. Is it the lack of protein... collagen and certain vitamins that exists in meat and carbs and veggies? I know it's unbalanced diet .but I will try it out .

@Salvijus OK thanks ?

Why ? Fruits are soild . Maybe not as solid as bread but still. I've read on Reddit this diet is the healthiest. And I'm convinced that that's the healthiest diet.

@YimpaOh really? Didn't know about that . Are you referring to out of body experiences..NDE and astral projecting and that kind of stuff ? @Galyna have you ever or could you ever experience anything that is not sensical experience? If you have 15 senses and not just 5..you will still be able to interact with the world via the senses . Psychedelic experiences and dreams alike ..they are either visually experienced or audibly experienced.

@Galyna truth is anything you can see ..hear ..taste..touch ..smell etc. Anything else is not the truth . Utterly nonsensical.

I obviously can't reply to all that . But great discussion you are having guys. Keep it up ? I will just say When I was a pessimist.. everything would go from bad to worst. It came to the point where I just decided to do a 180 and wouldn’t let anything bad phase me as a test. I kid you not.. the happy go lucky attitude literally just naturally worked things out. My outcome always turned out positive compared to that of when I let negativity impact my emotions. Try it out for yourself. It’s stuck ever since.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemological_solipsism#:~:text=Solipsism in its weak form,principle in an empirical manner. This is the Wikipedia page on Epistemological solipsism. Give it a read . I agree with the definition. One can only be sure of the existence of his own mind . Other minds are not necessarily rejected but they cannot be known for certain. So to frame solipsism as "I'm the only mind that exists and all other minds don't exist " as a definitive claim is false and I don't agree with . To frame it as "I'm the only certain mind that exists and other minds cannot be known " is a claim that I agree with . I hope you guys can see the subtle difference here .

Elaborate please.

It's something akin to watching a movie ..yeah the actors can be killed and you might cry ..but you don't lose awareness that this is all just a movie . Same with life ..you can get cancer and cry ..but deep down you know this is just a temporary dream in consciousness and there is nothing to cry about .that Is if you are awake.

@Sincerity bro ..please let's open a new page with each other and stop teasing or provoking each other . I know we can because that's what all spiritual traditions since the dawn of time teach like the Upanishads if you study them. They say that the enlightened one is fully and permanently established in his true nature as pure effortless bliss. and I saw a glimpse of unconditional happiness when I meditate .but I'm curious how to make it my baseline state .

Interestingly. according to Buddhist psychology at least ..truth leads to happiness and as it turns out.. you are more likely to be receptive to the truth (more objective..open-minded, etc.) when you are happy. "If lies if they make us happy? Should we lie to ourselves"? That is how I see it . "Grandma is in heaven" makes us happier than the alternatives. Even if we deep down know that there isn't a heaven. Seems rather helpful and harmless .

For example can you be blissful when you're hungry ?

I hate to sound like @Holykael lol ..but I gotta say something about this . Its just a form of expression .I'm not totally satisfied with God's creation. I know in the past I made threads about the purpose of suffering and how evil is nesscary for the highest good and how everything is perfect no matter what happens (because perfection must include imperfections. Otherwise it would not be perfection)etc. But to theorize about this stuff is one thing ..and actually getting your ass on the line with some fucked up suffering is a different story . Anyways..I want to question two aspects of our existence and why does God have designed existence in this way .. First of all : Why the hell do we need to eat food to survive? I mean hunger sucks isn't it ? And yet every single day you have to minimally suffer from 3 "hunger attacks ". Couldn't God have designed the world in such a way that humans and all living creatures don't need food as a source of energy to survive ? And we have to worry about what the hell is healthy and what the hell contains heavy metals and toxic garbage,..etc .and what's seems stupid also is that living creatures eat other living creatures. What the fuck is wrong with that guy (God)? The second thing I want to complain about in gods creation : why do we dream at night ? What's the point in dreaming anyways? Is it a clue to point us to understand that life itself is one fat ass dream ? But why ? Why do we have to sleep ? And these days I'm dreaming very vivid dreams. And I hate vivid dreams..because they make me question my reality.. So that's about it .

My claim is simple..whatever exists..exists and full stop. We can't move past that in our ontological investigating. Things are. And that's it. In this" theory" there is no reality nor illusion..no infinite or finite.physical nor mental. Etc Such things are all approximations. We know that something exists and we don't know any further. I know I'm being a broken record with this "we can't know anything " stuff. But it's not something that I come up with in a day or two. I spend hours everyday investigating Epistemology and how we know anything at all. And I always come to the Same conclusion. No matter how much we break things down.. we cannot find what existence IS. We just keep looking and finding things which we think substantiate our beliefs (which also do not exists) then the whole thing moves around the circle and we end up describing something else. Reality is a bunch of objects occurring in consciousness. Thats all. The object can be many things: a horse..a chair..a human..a dog..a snowflake.. an atom..a photon. or anything else in the universe.

One thing is for sure ..God is stuck alone for eternity. So he is stuck because he is infinite and alone. So as God is 100% good .its 100 % evil too . So it must entertain itself with all possible fantasies and dreams that it could ever be created. And I think dream at night are a sign to see that the waking state should not be taken for granted . Because your whole life might be a crocodile's dream .

@Jowblob no offence taken . Thanks for your worthless reply .

What's the difference? Can you illustrate using an example?

I am 26 years old. Up until recently I was more or less guided in life: school.. college etc.. Now I've started working just yesterday..and although I like what I do.. I feel like I'm not "fulfilled". I got this job because it was in the same city as my girlfriend.. and I thought it was the logical continuation to life: work and settle with a "7" girl . The thing is.. we broke up a couple of weeks ago and I'm starting to requestion everything. What do I want out of life? I feel like surviving is too easy. I don't make a lot of money . But it's enough for food and rent and I'm not really a very materialistic person. Sometimes I would like to have real problems just to challenge myself. I have a lot of free time and don't know what to do with it (my job is completely stress-free). I've started several projects (web apps) but I always end up abandoning them from lack of motivation and just watch tv series or documentaries and bindge on YouTube or Netflixor Porn etc (which I enjoy but it doesn't feel very productive). I think I need someone to challenge me to be motivated.. and for some reason that someone can't be me. Any advice appreciated ?

Sounds like something Rupert Spira would say ? (nah just kidding lol). I think life purpose is to be discovered or found is pretty similar..but to choose that is different. Sometimes a purpose is given to you.."presented" if you will. You might by the son of a beggar or the son of a King. This is where choice comes in. I must choose a different script a different role. I like philosophy..Science..any intellectual work. But can't become a famous scientist or philosopher with a business degree. Good point ?

I study business and marketing in university. I wanted to study philosophy or psychology but there just wasn't that domain in my city . So I made a choice between literature &history or business. I picked up business because it seemed the less complex . I can't be a philosophy professor in a college because I don't have a philosophy degree. However, like I said I want to become a true philosopher who writes books and publish then. Typical philosophy work like Nietzsche, Descartes etc but I still haven't figured out the how's and the whys . I know. Thanks for the "encouragement"?. The expense of launching a business in India is exorbitant..and the procedures might be intimidating if you don't know what you're doing. Any tips on how to make work enjoyable? I made a rule on my vision board that I won't be doing anything in this life unless I'm deeply passionate and feel enthusiastic about it .is that just a false expectation based on lack of experience from my part ? I agree . But I have the burning desire to pursue my goals in life . I just need a little push .a little piece of luck and I promise I will do all the hard work required. Recently.. I've noticed that I've started to restructure my priorities and put a lot of the somewhat more trivial things I used to really care about behind me (partying ... what others think of me..fiitting in, getting girls to notice me etc...) and now all I can ever really think about is succeeding at reaching my goals. I'm so focused on it..that I've become borderline obsessed with it. Gotcha ?