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Consciousness is a thing . what ..is..a..thing ..?

Oh and there is absolutely nothing that "needs" to happen. What Is meant to happen will happen. What isn’t won't.

Test this false premise against direct experience. What is the source of your existence? Isn't that how you came into existence? You just magically popped out of nowhere and found yourself just here?

@integral what's a thing? AT ALL.

I don't understand what you are saying. Sorry. I think This is relative to your state of consciousness. Maybe you've accessed insane levels of consciousness where everything and all distinctions were blended together .but in sober state of consciousness there is a difference it seems between that Lamb and that car .

Alright. let's dive into the impossible..shall we ? Apparently there is a difference between an empty wallet and a bank account with 1M bucks in it . One is "nothing "..The other is "something ", A LOT of something actually. So I would suggest you make a distinction between Absolute Nothingness( which is not an empty pitch black void) and the ordinary meaning of the word nothing which points to lack of any thingness of any kind .

You're not gonna get a logical answer to this question. Philosophers .. scientists theologians..and enlightened people have cracked their skulls over this question since the dawn of time and until now the universe is only getting even more mysterious in tandem with our advancement as a species . So you can Forget about it entirely. There must come a moment when you stop looking for answers..and instead drop the questions. If you do so ..you will start to realize you don't need questions nor answers. And in part this is the trick to peace of mind ..And true enlightenment. "Life is not a problem to be solved ,it's a mystery to be lived ". -Osho

@Salvijus sanity vs insanity is relative distinction. However..There is Absolute Insanity that encompasses both . Sanity is a temporary defence mechanism or a trick you're using to try to escape from Insanity. But there is no escape. hate to break it to you . BTW thanks for the conversation I'm not gonna continue or I'm going to say things that will shatter your mind forever.

@Salvijus Go talk to mentally ill peopld .so-called mental diseases are potentially there in how the human mind works. You can observe yourself hearing voices in your head.. Talking to yourself.. Having opposing views (multiple personalities) etc. Yet it's just mild. So imo.. The symptoms of mental illness are potentially there in every human.. It's just in their case( crazy people) they reach a point where they are unable to control it anymore.. Whereas for the majority of people they are able to fake that they are a "person" with a linear personality. Sanity is a fake front a house of cards a mask you wear to cover your inner absolute madness.

F off . You have no clue what you're blabbering about . Go smoke some salvia or go fight in Gaza and come back blabbering about sanity . This dream you are in is like a house of cards..yet all of us treat it like its not made of cards but made of concrete. The dream is flowing extremely gracefully right now. The fact that you can sanely sit here and read this message takes beyond infinite amount of grace. All of your billions of cells working perfectly together.. Your memories are perfectly in sync with each other and with form. All of this is extremely malleable. You're a nano second away from all of that grace just crashing and chaotically imploding on itself. Its a house of cards.. not concrete. And psychotic people have unfortunately experienced this the hard way.

Welcome to godhood .

@Salvijus ur adorable.

again who says so ? Logic ? You're using linear logic and I'm telling you for 2 hours straight that logic isn't absolute but contingent. Otherwise why me and you disagree on it ? If it was as clear as day aka absolutely true we would have to agree on it .but since we don't agree on it then it's just one side of the coin .I acknowledge both sides of the coin .you think the coin has only one side.

no it has .look what you said : God is abnormal . Look around you .is any of this stuff normal ? Its only normal because you are used to it .but if you actually want to understand it you can not . Just like reading 10000 astronomy books explaining what the sun is won't move you an inch in actually understanding it . You think you know what the sun is ? Lol.

Boy I told you I'm using logic to show you the limits of logic .its called going meta .just like I can use language to show you that language is not absolutely meaningful. Do you understand that this post means nothing to a kangaroo? Yes you do obviously. Yet it makes sense to you (makes sense doesn't mean you agree with it ..it just means you understand it). So here ..I used language to show you the limits of language. Stop pretending you still don't get it or I'm gonna wish ya good luck and sweet candy .

How so ? I have to use your own paradigm to talk to you .otherwise the conversation will be just meaningless . I'm using logic to defeat logic .again it seems like you don't get it . Lol.

Live your life right now. and worry about death when it comes. That's literally all there is to it .that's all you can do . Anything else is bullshit.

@Will1125 try to notice that there is no difference between solipsism being true or not. Solipsism just isn't handy.. It just doesn't "work".. I mean you still have to obey the laws of physics and work your ass off to pay the bills.. There is no excuse for you because you are a solipsist lol. Philosophically speaking.. It is neither provable nor disprovable. It's just a thought in your head.. So it can't possibly be "the Truth". At the end of the day your experience of life will be exactly the same whether you are a solipsist or not.... Only with being a solipsist you will feel lonely.. Depressed..and impractical.

Die before you die and you shall never die .

@Salvijus I understand what you said . It seems like my point just flew over your head . I was trying to show you that logic itself isn't an absolute metric .you used logic to conclude something. I'm saying logic itself is a house of cards .rationality is a house of cards . Is logic an absolute? Logic depends on language for example. And language depends on meaning .and meaning is obviously relative and arbitrary .because these symbols or words don't mean something to the universe as it were .it just registers into your mind because you understand the English language. For a Chinese person who doesn't understand English there is no difference between what you're saying and blah blah blah . Now how does this connect to insanity is that people try to ground reality into something. In your case logic and rationality. But when everything is relative including logic and rationality..then reality isn't groundable.

@Judy2 brilliant . now take off the sane mask you've been wearing your whole life and go dance randomly in the bathroom.

@Salvijus 1+1×2^5 =tomato soup. Insanity is everything and everywhere ready to be unleashed. Only your ego aka devil is suppressing it .if you are not conscious of how crazy you are ..then what good is your awakening? See its very easy to ruin your mind with a dynamite. Cause your sanity is a house of cards .

Where is this going ? Locate the fucking truth in your experience right now and quit playing . High fives!

They're are synonymous. You can call it cheesecake if you want . Don't get lost in what is the right name to slap on top reality . you think you are "Anton Rogachevski "? That's a label that was sticked on you when you were born .you could've been called Shakira or Katy Perry.

You are saying it like "meh ..experience just is ...so fucking what ". Boy do you realize there is nothing else that you can say you know about reality? Today the electricity has been shut down in my city for two hours .I couldn't cook or even drink cold water .I wondered where does energy come from ? From food ? Where does food come from? From nature ? Where does nature come from ? Go ahead and squeeze your brain into aches and try to come up with an answer . Energy doesn't get created nor destroyed. Didn't you take that in physics class in middle school ? Energy/nature / reality/ God etc ...JUST IS.