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Spiritual seeking is not what you (ego/mind) seek. It's the energy inside you when it wants to reach its imagined destination(reality is endless so there is no destination). And realization of this is what these neo advaita folks call liberation ..Moksha and Nirvana . Normally spirituality begins when you realize you are unhappy with something in your life. When you don't find a sense of meaning in your life. When certain events cause you to turn inwards and forcing you to confront the reality of the world...and make you question what is real happiness? What the hell am I Donig in this existence? The journey begins by that question..and continues on until you realise its futile to have the answer because reality is so fucking profound and infinite to fit into your little human chimp mind .

I do both . I believe this forum has great intellectual geniuses like Razard86 and Breakingthewall and Princess Arabia etc just to name a few . I stopped believing in anything religion related. I used to read books in my teenage years but now I became very difficult with my questions that no human book can answer. I don't wanna ramble here but do you know any specific book that answers all existence questions? But recently I got into reading Law of attraction books because I want to attract certain things into my life . I read Islamic kalam(theology) its quite fascinating. But trust me they don't know better than me . I can kill all those theologians with questions like if god is all powerfull can he create a rock that he himself cannot lift? I don't know anything. In the most literal sense possible. So I'm hoping to learn .

1-what makes you sure of this ? 2-i guess I'm shit out if luck ..cuz I won't be alive a few centuries to come . Unless we found the immortality juice 🥤. This is unrealistic. Would you trade pleasure for pain out of boredom from said pleasure? We don't see example of this in wealthy people for example. Thanks for the advice . But again I'm shit out of luck because I'm attached to pleasure and sensitive to pain. And the way to achieving my dreams in life and the pleasures thar I want to experience is filled with pain and struggling or obstacles.

No one has answered anything . My question goes much deeper than that. So far all I'm hearing is "without pain you can't appreciate joy " cliche in different ways to articulate . As if this is a limitation upon God. As if God can't create a world better than this with zero pain and max joy . Results like these don't belong in the resemay of a supreme being . If that's the best God can do then I'm not impressed.

I got no time for build-up and foreplay. I just fucked the shit out of her in our third date . On a serious note tho ..it depends in the kind of the relationship. My relationship with my Ex was clear from the very beginning that we just want to fuck .

@Applegarden8 @fopylo The worst part tho is that (whoever authored this poem) didn't mention her pussy 😂

This is chapter "song of Solomon " from the old testament in the bible...it's extremely beautiful romantic and sexual flirting poem..: "How beautiful are your feet in sandals, O noble daughter! Your rounded thighs are like jewels, the work of a master hand. 2 Your navel is a rounded bowl that never lacks mixed wine. Your belly is a heap of wheat, encircled with lilies. 3 Your two breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle. 4 Your neck is like an ivory tower. Your eyes are pools in Heshbon, by the gate of Bath-rabbim. Your nose is like a tower of Lebanon, which looks toward Damascus. 5 Your head crowns you like Carmel, and your flowing locks are like purple; a king is held captive in the tresses. 6 How beautiful and pleasant you are, O loved one, with all your delights![a] 7 Your stature is like a palm tree, and your breasts are like its clusters. 8 I say I will climb the palm tree and lay hold of its fruit. Oh may your breasts be like clusters of the vine, and the scent of your breath like apples, 9 and your mouth like the best wine. .... 10 I am my beloved's, and his desire is for me. The Bride Gives Her Love 11 Come, my beloved, let us go out into the fields and lodge in the villages;[d] 12 let us go out early to the vineyards and see whether the vines have budded, whether the grape blossoms have opened and the pomegranates are in bloom. There I will give you my love. 13 The mandrakes give forth fragrance, and beside our doors are all choice fruits, new as well as old, which I have laid up for you, O my beloved.

We are all addicts .. Just to different things . There is a deep hole that addicts desperately try to futilely fill with food or money or drugs or alcohol or sex or good reputation or fame or any externals. i call that a "spiritual hole" that those addicts(including myself)are trying to fill with externals and bodily comforts and indulgences... but it can never be filled with such things. The more you try to fill that hole with such things..the hungrier you will get. The hole gets deeper the more you chase or catch externals. The more you feed it..the deeper and hungrier it gets. In that way.. the greedy always starve. They starve themselves by feeding themselves. I'm not just talking about literal food here.. but any externals or bodily feelings including money..wealth..your reputation ..sex.. alcohol.. gambling..cigarettes(which Is my biggest addiction)..i say Anyone who attempts to obtain happiness and/or fulfillment via such things will be miserable and have an ever-deepening ever-hungrier hole that makes them continuesly miserable and sad and depressed. Nothing finite will ever fully fulfil you .because you are infinite. Your desire is infinite . Consider for example that the porn content online is technically endless..and yet the more you watch porn the more you want to watch more . Contemplate this guys .

@Bazooka Jesus ?!

Of course. It starts in the body part which is hurt . This supports my side not yours .

Well..as I said in OP I want to live a happy life . And it seems to me that happiness is impossible in this world . I mentioned some of the unperfect stupidity in God's design of this world. So..I simply want to understand why we must experience pain? What is the existential role that pain plays in God's design? I mean come the fuck on...God is all powerfull and can spawn endless flowery heavens in a snap if he wants yet he chooses this hell-hole called this world?..something is wrong. Even when everything seems like we should be happy.. we are not

Because What people who don’t suffer from depression or extreme physical condition like @Bubadon’t seem to understand how physically painful it is. It feels walking around with a broken heart every day all day . So stop judging and criticising while living a cushy luxurious life ..go to Africa or see Palestinians suffering.

@Bazooka Jesus why so unserious?

Go look it up in the dictionary. Could be Any part . Tooth ache ..stomach ache ..testicles ache ..etc Yup.

a bad feeling in the body .

And why is life better than death? Still doesn't answer the question. After along time experiencing pain and depression over and over again for many years and also trying to suicide I realise that sometimes we don't want to die..it's more like we want to end the pain. So pain is worse than death .therefore sometimes death is better than living a miserable life .and sometimes life is very fucking paniful . Your digestive disease is a lil taste . Some people like @Buba got it really fucked up.

@Michael569 please help this guy out if you have knowledge about this specific disease. Thanks This thread broke my heart .

Look..God =infinity. Hopefully we agree on that . Now what are the ramifications of infinity ? Two contradictory outcomes ..: 1- there must be pain as a possibility..otherwise infinity would be finite. 2-there must be no pain whatsoever as a possibility..otherwise infinity would be finite . A paradox. A huge contradiction that touches the whole notion of infinity and put it under question. How reconcile this paradox?

@ici stop kidding around. I'm asking sincerely and looking for something that clicks in my mind to understand this . Why the hell do MUST EXPERIENCE PAIN? "How we know pleasure without pain " is such a cliche. If reality or god is endless then sure he can create a reality that is endless joy without a shred of pain.

Sure ..if reality is infinite it must include pain ..otherwise it would be limited. But guess what ..If reality was infinite ..then it must be a possibility for there not being pain at all . That's the paradox of infinity . God is said to be all good and loving and Merciful in all religions and mystical traditions..how can that be when this motherfucker is watching what's happening in Palestine and doesn't do shit to stop it ? He actually the creator of it !.

Just to provoke some thoughts . The Truth is of course you are God dreaming its everything. A dream within a dream with no beginning or end .

No . Stories are essential for survival .you couldn't have human life without em. Imagine living as an empty headed nobody who abandoned society and just begging for bread on the streets ...you will end up like that without Stories. When you interact in society with other human chimps who are also not awake and deeply stuck in the matrix just like you..you have to practice etiquette and play by the social matrix's rules . Without Stories you couldn't sleep at night..because you need an ontological bedrock of assumptions that it's safe to drift off .as an atheist myself..I don't have that . And I suffer from insomnia. Do you know that deeply religious people are more happy than secular people? There has been studies done on thar.

@Nemra what's infinity minus one btw ?

@Nemra I was about to tell a joke about infinity ..but then i realised it never ends

Multiply by infinity