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Wtf are "patterns "? Existence is not a collection of impersonal unconscious dumb atoms bouncing around in a void ..it's self aware ..conscious..sensible..sentient. You are denying your own sentience.

Sorry that was a typo. I meant the link between your post and my OP.

Good post as always. I don't disagree. However..I'm struggling to understand the direct link between what you've said in OP . Can you break it down to me more ?

@Princess Arabia I KNOW that you are suffering. Otherwise you would not be asking whether suffering is baked in the very first instance of this existence (when a baby is born that is). And I feel you . All I'm saying is not projecting on you because I myself went through shitty suffering storms in my life and I have learned the lesson. And btw I also always wondered where we came from. It just seems so strange that all of sudden we're all just here. Almost like we all just spawned out of nowhere. We all are just born from nowhere and them we live 80 years and then dissapear. It's so mysterious . I DONT claim to have all the answers. Just sharing some thoughts .

@Princess Arabia Are you looking to not suffer? Well THE ANSWER is to simply not listen to thought. To not believe thought. You have no shred of evidence that you were even born ..this whole theory is a fantasy in your mind . And to drop that fantasy of the past and just finish this moment first ..then that's the end of suffering. But can you do that? Chances are..if you're suffering and aren't enlightened yet..then you probably can't. So no one on here can save you..even if we tell you exactly what to do.

@Princess Arabia James123 is correct. It just comes down to not listening to thought and ego. All suffering is caused by your perspective and listening to ego and identifying with ego. Salvation is accessible to you right now.. but you must do exactly what you don't want to do...And that's why you suffer.

@Javfly33 you want to lose your sanity FOREVER?

@Yimpa @Buck Edwards sorry guys I won't share . For my own well being and to not trigger utter psychosis and peeling the floor underneath your feet and leave you guys free falling forever in an endless void .

I'm hesitating to share or not ... Would you like to hear something so traumatic you become permanently insane and spend the rest of your life in a psychiatric ward?

@StarStruck people will watch porn whether you like it or not . Are you talking about it from ethical perspective? Because obviously moralising is relative .

@Breakingthewall to avoid not being able to delete previous posts from a new reply ..just post the same post which you cant delete and then hide the post . After that post your new post in a clean slate.

I hear you . Well..Eckhart Tolle was literally suicidally depressed before his awakening. He said "I could not live with myself anymore ". And then he realised the distinction between the false self (ego or myself) and the indifferent awareness which observes everything without judgement. So yes I agree with you that suffering plays a role . In Buddhism they talk about to die before you die .Jesus as well said you shall not enter the kingdom of heaven unless you are born twice .

@Inliytened1 I'm glad I made you laugh brother . I hope you overcome whatever suffering you are going through and come out the other side with even more strength 💪. Remember..nothing lasts forever. Suffering is inevitable part of life .even animals go through it and humans and since I'm a believer in panpsychism ..even rocks and trees suffer. Buddha said life is suffering. The only way to overcome suffering is counterintuitively to surrender to it and let your ego burn in the spiritual fires .

Well..life sucks and then you die .simple as that . If you have not yet realized this you are not fully awake

Buddhism in a nutshell... The four noble truths.. : 1 life sucks. 2 life sucks because you are an idiot. 3 it is possible for life not to suck if you stop being an idiot. 4 you stop being an idiot by wanting nothing. Desiring nothing. The real 4 noble truths tho... 1 life is suffering. 2 life is suffering because of desire. 3 it is possible for life not to be suffering. 4 the end of suffering is the end of desire.

@Arthogaan the upper case me is indeed eternal but guess what ?...it Is nothingness itself . The ego is gonna vanish forever.

Nothing . And why are you making real life so to speak analogous to a dream ? You just don't want to accept that death is either an endless bottomless void of nothingness or the mysterious unknown.

I am experiencing lots of Deja Vu and Synchronicity recently . Like if something is on my mind i see it everywhere and i feel like ive lived this incident before. You know ..when you read something here or there or when someone explains something to you and it just fucking click so hard. Also I feel more spiritually oriented and focused . I don't give two fucks about my college and finance and chasing girls etc i feel like I'm being called by the universe to stay alone and quiet and just be in nirvana ecstasy bless and joy out of nothing . What does the universe mean by these idk.

I obviously can't do extreme shit like that . I can do water fasting or dopamine fasting for few days lol.

@Breakingthewall i clearly said that's my objective. Never said its gonna be a peice of cake for me . I might chicken out and cry like a toddler. Because in my life I haven't faced that much suffering. I'm middle class but I never slept hungry even once . So I know how reality can slap you like a little bitch when you try to act out macho . But at least I've got the vision. The goal Is set . Unlike other people who live their lives flippantly not knowing their head from their ass .

Bypassing what ? Nothing in my practical life is out of sorts . And even the stuff im pissed about like smoking 🚬 i have made peace with . The peace that passes understanding as they call it . Im not suggesting that i should just sit on my ass all day playing video games ..im suggesting true fucking liberation. Those people who have deeply awoken literally dont care if you burn them alive or if they starve to death . There are actually some sages here in india who can survive on light and air alone because they have fully transcended their entire physical existence. That's my goal .all else is a distraction .

@Water by the River there seems to be conflict ..on one hand i truly have reached a state of detachment that i don't care whatsoever if I live or die.. I feel like ive broken out of the matrix ..I see through ALL human societies bullshit brainwashing that keeps us chasing nothing like stupid donkeys instead of seeking spiritual liberation which is the ultimate goal.

Excellent thanks 🙏

Do you really know that to be true or were you brainwashed by society and religion to believe in that? Be careful.