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I didn't say any of that here so I think you are totally off-track or you should be replying in another thread. And again all these cool ideas are not more true than this thing here.

There is no no need to collapse into actuality or anything else. Actuality is the only thing that exists. Omg what the hell did i just discover =the most obvious thing ever lol

Exactly!. This is the most deep insight ever and the most obvious one also lol.

Again you don't get it. I'm not denying these possibilities. Anything is possible. But all that is relative truths. Conceptual in nature until the moment it becomes actual. To talk about that we have to use concepts which are second order derivative from the only absolute truth that there is.. which is this.

All that is bullshit woo woo beilefs that you heard someone else saying. You have no direct experience of any of that. You are sacrificing actual reality (this thing here) for these stupid fantasies in your head?? Really sad.

You can indulge in hedonism for another zillion years and still it won't be worthwhile in your eyes. Because no matter what you do you will always be back here with this. You can't escape this. Happiness is achieved when you realize there is really nothing to do and nowhere to go lol.

I believe it's Osho. Just looking at his eyes is enough to make you enlightened.

I knew it lol.

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@Nak Khid don't worry. Psychedelics are not easily obtained by any one. To obtain them a lot of research must he done first. And you will come across information regarding the risks of it. So I think most people are mindful of the potential risks of taking psychedelics.

What is anything? What is is? What is what? (these are serious questions.. Try to answer them). You can keep pushing the question further and further to infinity and beyond and it won't end. To answer what is X? Just look at it directly and there is your answer. For example :what is the sun?. Go read thousands of pages explaining what is the sun and you will still not know what it is ultimately. The very "isness" of the sun is a total mystery that cannot be unraveled . Same with everything else . With all of reality. The sun is the sun.. Look at it.. That's what it is.

I agree with him. You can't access full truth if you are attached to survival because that will automatically distort your views and make you less objective. But then again the truth is ever present. So it doesn't matter what you assume.

It's an abstract concept. There is no "mind" in actuality. What you call the mind is in fact a collection of thoughts and memories and images etc that you mistakenly labeled as one solid entity called " the mind".

It's not about giving up.I'm not fighting over ideas . That's just one Way of looking at it the scientific approach. Under the materialist paradigm that's the explanation for psychedelics. What if you don't buy the materialist paradigm in the first place as it's the case with most people in this forum.?. What if you don't believe there is such a thing as "the brain" outside of your imagination of it? What if correlation doesn't mean causality?. These can take you to a different paradigm. I'm not trying to be biased to any specific paradigm. I'm just presenting the material explanation of psychedelics because some people think it can't be explained by material philosophy. For different perspectives to merge and see who's right.

No. The video that I posted in the OP revealed very clearly that there is a direct correlation between how the chemicals in psychedelics affect perception centers in the brain which leads to very vivid hallucinations.

@Javfly33 it's a pragmatic assumption for you to be able to function in life. Try to deprogram your mind from the assumption that the world behind your back exists even when you are not seeing it.. And say good bye to your entire sense of reality. Truth is not the same from all POVs. There is the absolute POV and then there is the pragmatic and relative POV. From the absolute POV you actually don't know Jack shit about anything lol other than this. From the relative POV you are forced to make all kinds of assumptions to be able to function in life.

It's all existence. Imagination is a category of existence. Actual yellow exists and imaginary yellow exists. The first exists as an object. The second exists as an image in your mind. The imaginary is derived from the actual. Meaning you can't imagine a shape or a color or a sound etc that you haven't perceived in actuality before. That's how I see it.

You are repeating the same question lol. I told ya it depends on what do you mean by "exist". What is "exist"? . If you from the very beginning assume that existence =perception =Consciousness.. Then it's obvious the answer is NO. There's nothing existing outside of perception if that's what you define as existence. As a matter of fact.. This field of perception is the only thing you know of reality.. You never encounterd anything "outside" of it. So if we just assume for a moment that there is something outside of it and independent from it.. It's still would be impossible for you to imagine that state of being or make sense of it because it's something you never encounterd in your life. Think of colors for example.. You can only imagine a color that you can already see in your perception field. Something existing outside of your awareness is like a color you have never seen before. You don't know whether it exist or not and also you can't imagine it or make sense of it because you've never encountered such a thing before.

Cool then.

LOL. I could change it if you wish.. But only if you show me something fancier.

That's what we want ?

Stop talking to me as an authority. Stop assuming that I'm your student. Maybe you need to open your mind that I'm not your student. If you don't buy what I'm saying then fine. But consider that I also don't buy what you are saying because you didn't actually say anything.

I know. That's why I say this is the only absolute. This was never discovered through logic. This is ever present and self evidently true. Anything else "tree exists outside my perception" requires logic to talk about which a second order. I think you should be agreeing with this so I don't understand what's your point regarding this issue specifically.

It's like saying you can know what you don't know without knowing it. It doesn't make logical or grammatical sense. It's utterly impossible.. Meaningless and contradictory. So yes I agree there is no need to argue about it.

Depends on how do you define "exist". If you define it as "being perceived by me" then NO. If you define it as "a state of being that Is prior to and Independent from perception" then the answer is YES. The whole trick is you can't know whether reality is subjective or objective. You can't know whether objects exist outside of your awareness or not. And like it or not..... You can't EVER know. And therefore the only absolute truth in the entire fucking existence is... This.