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I don't think those preferences (you might call them instincts) are just a product of conditioning from society. Part of it is genetic or "by design" you might say. If a human being grows up in a forest by himself without any social conditioning.. I think he would naturally have likes and dislikes based on his experience. Those likes and dislikes are what keeps you alive essentially. How could you survive if you no longer prefer food over death?. Is that realistic? Is it possible?

Try therapy and antidepressants. Also consider taking a break from self-actualization work.

Try this Right now.. do NOT think of a pink elephant.... If you did.. Free will debunked. If you didn't.. Free will debunked. Bye.

Pain! Consciousness can experience pain and that is called suffering!

No you can't lol. It is impossible to stop thoughts even for a moment. That's my claim and it's empirically verifiable by anyone. Having no thoughts is a thought. If you think you are not thinking now.. That's you thinking that you're not thinking. ?

No. The core mistake in this whole free will thing is duality. When you take yourself to be a separate self. There is no you and your thoughts. You can't control your thoughts precisely because you are the thoughts. Instead of being a separate entity that create thoughts

@Nahm nice one. I love it @Inliytened1 haha lol that guy lost his beans cuz I told him bro

There is half truth in that. Denying the existence of something should imply at least an appearance of that thing that is being denied.. Otherwise wtf are you denying in the first place? . How does the body relate to your identity is a deep and complicated topic. I don't believe you are the body ultimately. But in any case there is a body here.

Are you serious?

No obviously. But I'm talking about when the body is alert.

The suffer is the body.

What is your biggest fear?

Yeah so it's real as far as that identification is concerned?

Can you locate it?

Stop with the nonsense.. This isn't about conceptual games . Sit down and LOOk and OBSERVE how your thoughts and actions come about.

Good. What about fear?

What can you locate? ?

Idk dude just plain sensations of pain in the body. You seem to suggest that the sensations themselves are not suffering but rather labeling them as such is. But I don't think it's up to you.

An interesting insight. Thanks for sharing.

Is this your experience?

No. Nothing counts as free will. You have as much control over your life as you have over my life. Zero.

@SS10 Sit down and stop your thoughts for 30 seconds. If you could we will conclude that you have free will. If you couldn't.. We will conclude that you don't have free will.

Fear is a threat to the the finite from that you think you are.. If you are formless.. What can threat you?

Well if you want that then go die.. Completely let go of this meat suit and Dissolve back into infinity. Don't be so attached to this body and then complain about fear. The body is fear. At best just a house of diseases.. Needs and cravings.. And at the end just a food for bugs.

This is a fairy tale. Enlightenment doesn't mean you will become a superman. Ramana maharshi died from cancer. It just means you are absolutely clear about the true nature of yourself and reality.