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@Dodo I guess it's helpful to keep in mind that's just the title of the thread "I'm waking up" to attract attention.. That's how it is said in the most down to earth way without over-complicated nondual schizophrenic language. The actual description and the actual discovery is I'm awakening itself. The person is not waking up.. There is no person The thing that you want to awaken to is what you are all the time.

@SamC you are never ready untill you are . Just pretend that you are ready and do it. This is also one of the secrets to get shit done.

Let's be honest...... It's near impossible for a guy to stop scratching his equipments or looking into hot stuff online every now and then .. Sex is a natural desire like food and water. But one should be mindful in using it because it can easily turn into addiction or a substitute for the real thing. My new girlfriend really takes care of me but I still from time to time feel an urge to go solo ya know.. But .. Most porn is actually fake robotic boring sex that has nothing to do with real sex lol.. Real sex =intimacy and playfulness not just in and out robotic exercises lol... I wanna touch my girl.. Smell her.. Feel her..etc. Recently I discovered a audio porn site that is focused more on intimate sex.. Not going into details but it focuses more on the intimacy part and the foreplay.. I thought wow that's really what I'm looking for.. Then I wonder why most porn companies don't produce scenes that are actually real-like instead of this fake boring shit lol??????

It's the flow of the conversation. You must perceive it that way. We are having a conversation. Your mind has to perceive what I'm saying as either correct or false.. It can't see it as correct and false and neither.. You must cling to your perspective. I'm telling you all perspectives are false because they are imaginary and in that way they are correct for you as you imagine them. Same thing.

@Dodo you just didn't understand anything I'm talking about imo. You still under the impression that my attitude is to prove what you are saying is wrong and what I'm saying is right.I'm pointing to something meta...That encompasses what you say.. Acknowledges it.. And ultimately transcends it. You are still stuck at "this is how it is and that is not how it is..". I'm telling you it is however you imagine it is.

You're it. There is no such thing as "should" in reality. Whatever is.. Is what it "should" be. There is no person or people. Again this whole agenda that you are imagining is something you are imagining right now that doesn't exist. I'm pointing you to this dynamic over and over again.. And not in a million years are you going to get it and stop doing this. There is no mind and no one imagining anything. Except that's what you imagine right now 1. Which is not really happening right now 2. But you imagine it again to construct reality again 3. Oh but it is vanishing again4. So you have to imagine it again5...... Dig that? There isn't a person typing right now. And there isn't something floating around in the aether somewhere separate from this present moment called "awakeness". This is precisely it. So there is a me and a myself? Haha..

You don't get it yet. There is no mind and no ego. The mind can't stop because it doesn't exist. There is no mind to stop. Except that's how your mind imagines it! And that's how the perpetual illusion continues. See if you could just realize what Im saying you will just sit there with your mouth wide open for a good half an hour.. But since your whole life hinges upon you not discovering "this ".. You will just open a new line. Be sure.. As long as we are at the level of talking.. We are talking nonsense . It's all bullshit basically. So let's keep going. There isn't a human. That's just a thought. Boom gone it's not here anymore.. So where is the "human"? If you look closely there isn't any humans here.. And there's isn't a you looking.. And there isn't a looking. And there isn't anything. The "eternal self" is not the ETERNAL SELF . A word that is being used to describe something is not that something.. The "eternal self" is nothing. Tell me how can we speak about nothing when there isn't a we and a talk because there is nothing but nothing?

You are saying the same thing. Pointing to the same "meaning". It's just a technical difference in how you frame it and what meanings you imagine to the word "awareness". Ultimately there isn't a nothingness and a awareness and a appearance.. A dream and a sleep.. A world and duality and a you and a "aware of X"... These are all one" thing ".. There is just nothing. And not even. But because the mind can't sit still.. it imagines all sorts of non-existent things to constantly construct" reality". Because there is no Reality except to nothing. And not even to "that ". Because your mind will also again imagine "nothing" as a something. When it's nothing lol. See we could go like this forever.. The mind has to stop.. A radical shift. MUST happen to grasp what is being "pointed at" here.. Not the pointer itself. For the map is not the territory. Well if you truly understand what you're saying here.. You will see you are doing exactly that. All pointers are just pointers. the moon is not the finger. What I described as how nothing is the truth.. Is not the actuality of it. In the realm of words and language.. You can only point.. You can only go so far. Silence is the highest teaching.

@Heaven yup.

A classical one. See the trick is what is "consciousness"? If you define consciousness as sight sound touch smell etc.. That's definitely will be absent. Just like in deep sleep. But the problem is we identify ourselves with these temporary appearances when we are actually the ever-present emptiness that contains everything inside of it. So you wake up in the morning.. Sight sound touch smell.. A body and a world appear.. They appear inside of what ??? Inside of awareness.. For if there wasn't An awareness that is prior to these appearances.. Where else can they appear "within"??? .. Ok so in deep sleep there isnt even awareness.. That's right.. Deep sleep is the sate of nothingness.. That's your real nature.. That's who you really are.. That's the only thing that doesn't come and go.. Ever-present.. Therefore the most real state of being is the state of nothing.. The most fundamental state of being is the state of nothing .... And" within" this nothing appears awareness.. And within this awareness appears all sorts of dreams... The waking dream and the sleeping dreams. Are just temporary appearances within the ever - present nothingness. Very helpful.

Try to dumb it down to their level.

That's better than going as a mofo everyday lol

Is carrying a body a burden or a bliss? Well if you ask me it's a burden. I discovered that I am eternal perfect needless soul. Desirlessness content ever-present perfection that is always hiding behind the surface of the world of forms. Maya . That's my real nature. I just did it. I made that discovery without any psychedelics.. Just good old meditation and observing the world of forms floating around the eternal nothingness at the center. The soul is identified with an imaginary temporary physical avatar.. For a while. Not for long time but for a while. The more I recognize my true nature and then compare it to the body.. The more I see the body as a burden. A burden that I have to carry on for my whole life. Babysitting this body. Task after task. Feed me. Please Me. Rest me. Move me. Clean me. Over and over again. A chore after a chore. Until I fall dead after reaching the limit of exhaustion. A house of diseases. A house of desires. The never-ending desire that doesn't amount to anything other than the multiplication of itself and the expansion of disappointment. A house of needs. A house of lacking and constant aiming. The mind can be at ease. The soul can just be content in the now. The body has to perform effort and chase after it's "needs". There seems to be a conflict between the body and the soul. The nature of limitation VS unlimitedness. "oh you don't have to think of it this way and be pessimistic.. The body is the house of God". Yeah yeah yeah.. The ghost in the machine. This is dualism. The body is a burden. For God to exhaust himself and start seeking breaking free from the temporary limitations that he decided to reincarnate in. Any thoughts on how to help myself change this perspective?

This is true. Although it leaves everything as it is.

I'm experiencing it as a desire. no . But it appears that way. Not necessarily. Within awareness. Itself. A body is a body. A bird is a bird.yada Yada.. Because Wherever I go. It's here with me. Unlike anything else Awareness. Or nothingness. Or the ego (which doesn't exist). Or I don't know. It can't be said.

I don't know why I relate that way. Yes I'm not in control. I have absolutely zero control over everything. I'm totally conscious of it. You tell me? I don't control my thoughts or actions or attitudes.

Alrighty. Alrighty.

Alright how is that different from what I'm saying? You are just saying yeah it is what it is.. It is your burden.. Do the homework.. Do it good.. And keep quiet . Lol

Appearance is reality. What does that mean? Freedom is not an entity. It's an abstract. Consciousness is identified as a separate body.. That is essentially a house of needs. I don't wanna get lost in pedantic word Games.. The current dream of being a separate imperfect body is a limitation and a burden. It is a dream but it's real. It is illusory but it's real. It doesn't exist but it does!

Tricks your mind lol? You are basically saying go have some fun and experience how amazing the body can get lol. As if I don't know that. Yet that can be viewed as a burden.. This constant itch to move the body.. Please the body.. Hype up your body.. For if you don't.. The body will get stagnant and bored. And body doesn't like that... So I gotta obey body. Lol I don't have to necessarily view it from this perspective.. But for now I'm stuck at it.

How to view the body's constant ever-renewed "needs" as "freedom"?

It's a nothing that exists! Well one can certainly imagine a scenario or a world where you can have lighter bodies that doesn't require constant effort and struggle to keep it in balance.

Appreciate it although not sure how exactly is that going to change my perspective on the body being a burden.

I'm not sure if you mean "cause" or "purpose" by reason. But from the absolute perspective.. The cause of a thing and the "purpose" (the destiny) is itself. Cause and effect is a duality. So sure conventionally we slice reality to a series of events into causes and effects.. But actually it's all ONE happening.

Idk maybe. Most people are completely absorbed in the illusion of "I am the body". It doesn't take more than just becoming conscious of yourself observing the body to know that you are not the body.. You could've picked another body in this incarnation. Nothing special or inherent in this body to who you really are.