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Someone here replied to Knowledge's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Someone here replied to ivankiss's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@ivankiss well that's all child's play. Here's the real deal. Leo says : "No, you don't understand. YOU ARE JUST AN IDEA! YOU DO NOT EXIST! So there is nothing you can personally gain from spirituality. Therein lies the ultimate Goodness. Goodness is NOT you getting stuff. Goodness is the end of you. Then, once you're dead, nothing can bother you any more and all becomes perfection. The reason you cannot understand this is because you keep assuming you exist and there is stuff you can get. Spirituality it deep counter-intuitive. Happiness only comes after you surrender your entire life to the Truth. You do not surrender to the Truth to get happiness. No! You surrender to the Truth believing that you've killed yourself and everything is fucked and destroyed. THEN, and ONLY then, do you discover something beyond. Almost every fiber of your being hates the Truth. Right now, you only care about the "truth" because you think it will get you something positive. But this is not Truth, this is falsehood. You have to realize that YOU are the problem. And the solution will the elimination of yourself. Spirituality is a form of suicide. Which is why hardly anyone does it. Imagine surrendering your entire life such that you didn't care any more what happened to you. That's what we're shooting for. For example, you don't care any more if you die or if you go to prison or get raped. You have completely surrendered your life to the universe's whims. By surrendering EVERYTHING, you will gain the universe. And then you will be happy. Because you will be dead inside. Truth = Death You have to appreciate how serious this is. We are not talking in metaphors or playing word games. We are talking about your ACTUAL death. And you have to be wise enough to realize that death the best strategy. It is the only way to escape the maze. You have to be wise enough to say, "Okay, fine. Death it is then. Let's do this." You do not want this. It is impossible for an ego to want this. Eckhart Tolle died the day he became enlightened. What you see now is a meat bag walking and talking which you call "Eckhart Tolle". It walks and talks, but it is just a zombie. You are also just zombie, but you are in denial about it. All enlightenment is, is realizing you were always a zombie." -
Someone here replied to marinaaniram's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
So now the relative truths contradict the absolute truth?? Is the absolute truth a theory or a philosophy to begin with? -
Someone here replied to Winny's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
OK. -
Someone here replied to marinaaniram's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Someone here replied to Winny's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@remember I really have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry if any misunderstanding happened. But I think it's from your side. The bank account example was just a cute little example to show you how money is just a meaningless piece of paper yet relatively it's the most important thing in the world (for most people). -
Someone here replied to marinaaniram's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Perfect. So I imagined that i pressed play on the beginning of your video because I did actually press?? It is true that I'm imagining the past and my childhood and even what happend five moments ago right now. But Leo that has nothing to do with whether it really happend or not!, Because I can record myself pressing play on your video and show you that I did that five minutes ago.. Your "your memory is imaginary" argument is completely out the window by that! -
Someone here replied to marinaaniram's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The contexts or the interpretation of the experience might be illusion but the experience itself is never illusory. Nighttime dreams are perfect example. They are illusory in the sense that they are not what you think they are. But they are 100% real in the sense that you experience them fully. -
Someone here replied to marinaaniram's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
LOL he said the past never even happened like he literally mean it. It didn't physically happen and you are just imagining that it did . He said you didn't even press play on the beginning of his video.. You are just imagining that you did in the present moment. Your childhood memories never happened but ancient times and human history happend?!! Lol give me a break. Let's be real who lives his life based on that? I bet that Leo himself doesn't. It is not possible to live your life in this absolute dissociated solipsism. It's even unhealthy and might cause psychological problems. And btw everything that happend in the movie is real. It's just in the context of a movie. Basically actors acting. That's why we say it happend. If something happend it happend. If it didn't happen it didn't happen. "it happened but it's not real" makes zero sense. -
Someone here replied to Winny's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@remember @remember now what are you talking about lol?? -
Someone here replied to marinaaniram's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I know some might rage on me but will just say " stop taking everything single word coming out of Leo's mouth as absolute truth". IMO Leo hasn't figured his stuff out yet. His metaphysics is clearly confused and filled with gaps. I'm not discrediting his insights but I still don't understand why he takes everything he experienced in psychedelic trips as absolute truth. @marinaaniram you clearly pointed one Gap out. It's like either "the human history is imaginary.. Your memories are imaginary.. The big bang never happened.. You are not sitting on the planet earth.. You didn't press play on the beginning of this video " these are Leo's words from this video Or it happened and there is something happening outside of your mind and imagination of it. And that is the only assumption you can make to ever talk about politics.. Society.. Human history. Ancient Roman times . Etc. Our ancestors and the genetics and DNA and all that,, really?? But all that is imaginary because it's not in direct experience. You see? This is a clear contradiction. It either happens or it did not. "Yea but there is deeper layers to imagination and deeper layers to the dream". Yeah so what's the point of calling it a dream if that dream is indistinguishable from reality?. Is there a difference between the two anyways?. Illusions don't exist. That's why they are illusions. Reality is always real no matter what state of awareness you are at. Even nighttime dreams are real. We normally think of them as illusory. That's false. Illusion is not possible. If something exists then it exists. Full stop. -
Someone here replied to Winny's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
LOL I was just being sarcastic to give you a little hint of what I mean. Yes from absolute perspective nothing means anything. What does "meaning" even mean?? Lol. It's a conceptual fantasy. I get that. Yet from the relative perspective we as humans in this society agreed to give different meanings for different things to be able to function and survive. We give money so much meaning and importance than a piece of dirt for example. But really what does a dollar mean?? It's literally just a piece of paper with no inherent value to it. We choose to agree to give it a value. And outside of our relative values it has no meaning whatsoever. -
Someone here replied to Winny's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Dude.. Show me a shred of evidence of these others dimensional stuff and then we can talk. I'm not close minded that there might be an infinite number of universes. I'm just saying that has nothing to do with the absolute truth. The absolute truth will be the same in any universe. But seems like you don't care about that and all you care about is manipulating reality using magical power. Cool you on your way bro. Good luck! -
Someone here replied to Winny's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nothing has any meaning except how much money you have in your bank account! Meaning is relative and conceptual. Objects don't have "meaning". Words do or do not. The meaning of a word is an object. If a word has no representation it's meaningless. The word cghddtfhiv is meaningless because it has no representation. Same goes with "nothing" and "formlessness". Anything you think is it is not it by definition Because it isn't any specific "it". It is a no it!! -
Someone here replied to Winny's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
So delusional my friend. Soooooo delusional. Next time you get hungry go eat a table instead of bread. If you don't do that then keep quiet and don't say they are identical because they aren't. Again the same blanket statements. I can't argue with that because you are not even using any logic here. You are using logic to kill logic. So we can't have any discussion here. Good luck, -
Someone here replied to Winny's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You see.. The same mistake you are repeating. "forms exist exactly as they are right now". But then you go on to say "all forms are identical". Again why do you need to say that?. And regardless that's just pure falsehood. You just said " me.. You.. Chair.. Table". You just stated different forms! You just did! How can you say they are identical? They aren't!, that's just plain falsehood. Open your eyes and look how these objects are undeniabley distinct and nonidentical. how can you make sense of the concept of "sameness" without the concept of "differences"? How can you make sense of nonduality without duality? How can anything exist without it's opposite??. All your statements "nothing but aware" "nothing but everything but aware but X but Y but Z" are meaninglessness statements. They don't explain anything because they explain everything! -
Someone here replied to Winny's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There is really no such thing as "I" in actuality upon closer investigation . So the question of "where am I?" or" what am I? " really doesn't make sense. All that exists is these forms exactly as they are right now in direct experience. Any conceptual framework you add is not necessary. And is second order. But if you speak from the relative perspective.. Sure I do have a body. And in moments of engaging in daily life I'm the body. I'm the body or the driver of the body or the awareness of the body.. Makes no difference.. All these are your relative interpretations of what's going on.. What's going on is what's going on exactly as it is and that's it. Why do you need to spray some conceptual noise on top of what's going on? It's not like it's gonna change it anyways!! -
Someone here replied to Winny's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What you are saying has no meaning. There is no such thing as "nothing". When you say this word you imagine that there is an object or an actual representation for it but thers isn't. Anything you manage to find is not "nothing" since anything that can exist must have some kind of form. -
Someone here replied to Winny's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Winny is your awareness inside your brain or is your brain inside your awareness? Or is your brain inside your awareness and your awareness inside your brain? Both? But who's more fundamental? If each one of them depends on the other.. How come any of them exists?? If A depends on B for it's existence and B depends on A for it's existence.. Then neither A nor B will exist!!,, but apparently one of them must exist. If awareness exists in the brain.. Where does the brain exist? If the brain exists in awareness.. Where does awareness exist? In the universe?.. Where does the universe exist?? .. In the vaccum? Where does this vaccum exist?? In the space-time continuum? And where does that exist?? In the 4th dimension??? And where does that exist?. In the 34th dimension?? Just where the hell does all this unbelievable existence exist???? It exists here. In your awareness. Tada!!!! -
Someone here replied to Winny's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@remember Well as far as I know that's what most spiritual teachers teach. I didn't come across any serious spiritual teacher teaching the 4th dimension and aliens etc. Whatever you think the formless is not the actual formlessness. Because it's form-less. The formless must be hidden forever. Because whatever appears must be some kind of form! That's why I say the only thing that exists is forms. -
Someone here replied to ivankiss's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@ivankiss lol gotcha -
Someone here replied to ivankiss's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Solipsism is such a mindfuck lol. Don't worry I'm over it. I figured out whether others are real or not (have awareness or not) there is only my awareness that I have access to anyways. So what does it matter??? I'm stuck inside my awareness in any case. There is no point obsessing over other's awarenesses. -
Someone here replied to ivankiss's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Again I don't understand a dam thing lmao -
Someone here replied to Winny's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What I mean by "this" is not the specific limited world that we live in. I mean "this" lol. Being. Existence. Isness. Actuality. Direct experience. Consciousness. Whatever name you wanna call it. It's really simple.. There's basically two things.. Just two things that are possible and can ever exist in reality.. Forms and formlessness. That's it. There is nothing else and can't be anything else. No matter what you do and where you go. No matter what reality is made out of. No matter what happens after your body dies. There is just two possibilities in existence.. If there is something of any kind then it's form . If there isn't then it's formlessness. Now these forms could be infinite. There could be an endless number of forms.. Endless number of realities each one of them resembles no similarity to our own reality whatsoever. Anything is possible. But no matter what that is it's either form or formlessness. And since formlessness is really not a "thing". All there is just forms. Endless forms is what reality is and can't be anything other then that! -
Someone here replied to Winny's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
different types of "this".. Tada!