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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Mu_ @xxxx Too much points all over the place.. I can't respond to all this... But will touch on depression and the well intentions behind the design of this reality.. Let's take one example.. Depression.. A depressed person doesn't know what he wants from this life. He tried everything to battle. tried every thing hates himself . Never loved himself have defeated in every aspect and every form in this life. Now this stresss he had for years started to take toll over his body physically. Now he suffers every kind of pain..neck pain..body pain..shoulder pain.headache. Days are always in pain. Far worse is being a man. Nobody cares about you. We're doomed to suffer then die. No friends no one says hi no nothing fuck.. He seriously need to disappear from this world in an instant. It won't change anything. "Yeah" "Sorry" "Try this" "That" "No" "Yes" "You're wrong" "You're right" Makes no fucking sense. Will just Keep his mind busy. And fall into all kinds of addictions and destruction. Depression is hell on Earth. It has a zombie-like feature -- not totally alive, not dead either. The thing is.. no amount of books.. advice.. venting will get you out of this. Sorry. It might kinda help.. but depression will sooner or later creep in once again. Why? Because it's a chronic illness. See depression as a chronic illness. such as diabetes. It has no cure.. but it is possible to keep it under control.. If a person who has diabetes doesn't take insulin.. things will get really bad for him. And as time goes by.. it'll get worse and worse. About the goodness of God.. Is God good? Really? Really tho? the god that created this universe if it was created by God. is quite clearly a maniac. continues Fry. An utter maniac. totally selfish. Bone cancer in children?’ What’s that about? How dare you. How dare you create a world in which there is such misery that is not our fault. It’s not right. It’s utterly.. utterly evil. Why should I respect a sick minded,. stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain?’.. Prove to me that reality is not just entropy moving towards perfect madness and hilarious evil at the end? You can't. You don't know shit. Just deal with it. And lay aside some.. Not all.. But At least some of the spiritual mumbo jumbo. How do you reconcile that with peace..goodness and love? (The question is for Mu and xxxx) -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
c'est la vie. -
Someone here replied to BipolarGrowth's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
And btw.. Correlation doesn't equal causation. The sun rises every day in winter around 5 am (whatever).. That's a correlation. That doesn't mean the cause of the rising of the sun is that the time is 5 am. It's the rotation and gravity etc. So you actually have zero certainty in your claim that just because the brain activity correlates with consciousness shifts that it is actually the cause of these shifts. -
Someone here replied to BipolarGrowth's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@BipolarGrowth look.. You can't verify what effects your supposed brain have on you.. By that time you would be dead or in coma. Forget about your own brain. You never saw your brain.. You never did.. And you never will. Let's talk about others.. Even if you magically expanded the reach of your consciousness to enter the "brain " of another person that still wouldn't answer the question. Instead you would be some sort of hybrid consciousness.. neither the original you or the original them. This is akin to the measurement problem in quantum physics. You can't measure the state of a system without disturbing the system. More accurately.. whenever you measure a system.. you are merging with it.. to create a hybrid system. You can't disentangle the observer from the observed. It's all tangled up in itself. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why are you sounding like my dad or something lol? ?Jk Good advice and surely helps with positive living. Thanks! -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
God is no more peace than it is anguish.. Stress.. Pain..sickness.. Death.. Murderer.. Rape.. Theft.. Cancer.. Sorrow...depression.. Madness.. Loneliness.. Disability.. Disasters.. Chaos.. Hell. Before we move further in this conversation (if you wish to)... Justify why and how is "peace" being cherry picked here as the essence of God and not infinite other horrible stuff. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I have to disagree with the entirety of this. I literally asked if pain and suffering are part of what undoubtedly must be considered part of my "true" nature and you are denying that by actually admitting that it's "known by me as me"...???? So you are saying no because yes? -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Love ya take care. -
Someone here replied to BipolarGrowth's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes absolutely. The present moment exists mysteriously. it just is. It's unbelievable but hey. Nothing generated it from "outside". All the outsides are actually inside. The causes that you imagine behind consciousness are actually manifestations of consciousness (you are fantasizing them into existence right now) rather than its cause. -
Someone here replied to BipolarGrowth's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@BipolarGrowth you studied nonduality huh??? Brain vs consciousness. Reality is just one seamless whole. Ultimately it doesn't matter if materialism is correct partially about the brain. But what is hidden in your question is substance-dualism. There is only one fucking substance out of which everything is made. Could it be otherwise?. What is substance-dualism?.??? Well That reality is split into two different substances. One is the appearances or phenomenon or consciousness or qualia (this stuff right here)..which is a second order emergence from the essence which is matter. That matter has no phenomenonolgical qualities. It's not conscious yet it gives arise to consciousness. Notice the absurdity? Consciousness is simply everything and anything. This is Consciousness. That is consciousness. You are consciousness. The brain is consciousness. Anything you think or possibly doubt in a million years that isn't consciousness IS fucking consciousness... Tada! And it can't be "defined" because there is nothing which is not consciousness to define consciousness in terms of it. That's why it's a mystery. -
Someone here replied to BipolarGrowth's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Watch Leo's episodes.. "why brains don't exist". "what is Consciousness". "rant against naive realism". "reality is a strange loop". Should do the trick. -
Someone here replied to BipolarGrowth's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@BipolarGrowth ey bro what's up? Ofcourse we can't be sure.. Don't be silly..... But Think of it this way" ... The brain can't be generating your experience.. What you call "the brain" is itself an experience.. You can't say that this" piece of meat" is what is causing experience because that piece of meat IS an experience. Ponder this.... What should be generating the experience from outside can't be an experience . It becomes strange loop. The brain which is an appearance in consciousness generated consciousness which is itself!!!! In both cases there is a mysterious fucking thing there that was generated by nothing. Nothing found inside of your experience can be the cause of your experience from outside. Just like if you are playing a video game... The cause of the entire video game world which is the PS device can't be found inside the video game world. It's like looking at your own body with a microscope.. Sure you will find some cells and atoms in there.. But those themselves are phenomenon within your experience aka consciousness.. You can't say that atoms or brains are generating consciousness.. Because atoms and brains ARE consciousness. U dig that lol? -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How to go about achieving that? Do you think that the human organism was "designed " to embrace a sharp nail Penetrating your legs? -
Someone here replied to Blackhawk's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
desire is never satisfied because it's ever-renewed. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Snader well here's the thing in case you didn't notice.. The universe is a tricky fucking devil.. Sometimes life is amazing.. Other times you wanna blow up the whole universe.. Yin and yang.. Leela.. Maya.. Tricky stuff.. I just want true stable THING. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nice insights. Thanks. Sorry I almost didn't understand anything. If you could simplify it. Is it realistic to have no desires or attachments.. Preferences and so forth? You are contradicting yourself. You are saying being healthy is necessary but it's independence of material conditions? Isn't health a material condition? I love maharshi but wait a minute... How is happiness my nature? Isn't pain and sorrow and every other feeling and emotion for that matter equally my "nature"? And exactly how is it found "inside"? There is nothing inside! I believe I'm always in the now (physically) or do you mean mentally? Sometimes the now is quite shitty.. you actually must escape it to be happy -
Someone here replied to Blackhawk's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nothing. Ofcourse! -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
How does that work for you? When I sit and meditate there is a rather emptiness or Neutral feeling like tranquility or something like that. Not really what we call happiness or excitement. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Mr. One liner. -
Someone here replied to BipolarGrowth's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@BipolarGrowth @BipolarGrowth try to notice that there is no difference between solipsism being true or not. Solipsism just isn't handy.. It just doesn't "work".. I mean you still have to obey the laws of physics and work your ass off to pay the bills.. There is no excuse for you because you are a solipsist who ?. Philosophically speaking.. It is neither provable nor disprovable. It's just a thought in your head.. So it can't possibly be "the Truth". At the end of the day your experience of life will be exactly the same whether your solipsist or not.... Only with being a solipsist you will feel lonely.. Depressed..and impractical. -
Someone here replied to ivankiss's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes. However it's this impermanence thing and the endless future that gives the impression that the now is always lacking.... Because it seems like you are progressing towards somewhere right? You just aren't lol. You notice you are always dissatisfied with the now and imagining happiness and completeness in the future..... The endless future that never comes! -
Someone here replied to StateOfMind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nice point. -
Someone here replied to StateOfMind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@wesyasz all you have is experience. When you talk about something not found in your experience.. That's belief. -
Someone here replied to StateOfMind's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Reincarnation is just beliefs and stories. What happens after death? You will die and know so why the hurry? Anything you can't see..touch.. Smell.. .. Taste.. Right now is a fairy tale.