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That's not a scientist obviously. Some youtube dipshit.

Yes. What about it lol?

Because by definition of materialists themselves.. The atoms that you see are not the atoms that are behind consciousness because the atoms that you see are merely perceptions of atoms.. They are not the "real atoms behind scenes" which ofcourse no one has ever seen or will ever see. That's the absurdity and circular logic of materialism. That's the whole point! No one knows anything except consciousness. You gotta ask those those materialists what do you mean that the basic stuff of reality is unconscious. Consciousness apparently. But materialists say they are something magical behind the scenes. Sight sound touch smell taste thought. Google it. This. All science books. Pick up any neuroscience book and read how they explain consciousness.

Let's say there is no distance from front and behind.. Fine let's give you that. Now deal with horizontal distance. Vertical distance might me illusion.but I can see horizontal distance clearly.

Both?

Nothing found inside of your experience can be the cause of your experience from outside. Just like the cause of the entire video game world which is the PS device can't be found inside the video game world. It's like looking at your own body with a microscope.. Sure you will find some cells and atoms in there.. But those themselves are phenomenon within your experience aka consciousness.. You can't say that atoms or brains are generating consciousness.. Because atoms and brains ARE consciousness. U dig that lol?

The brain can't be generating experience.. What you call the brain is itself an experience.. You can't say that this piece of meat is what is causing experience because that piece of meat IS an experience. Ponder this. What should be generating the experience from outside can't be an experience . It's a strange loop.

You just just debunked yourself. What front or behind if there is no distance? Don't overthink it. Obviously there is distance.

What bed? You are referring to it and saying it is not real in the same breath.. You are Infinitely hilarious bro. Put the psychedelics down for a while.

@electroBeam the boogeyman under your bed bruh.. Who knows gotta check it daily jk lol

What brain? I'm serious lol.. the only brain you can see is a brain within consciousness.. The brain that you think is generating from outside of consciousness is something you have never seen and will/can never see. It's 100% belief and fantasy.

You're epistemological nihilist bro. Ofcourse there are dozens of assumptions here. But I can't go prove to you every single one of them. You just gotta take some stuff superficially as they appear to be. Nothing suggests that rock hears or sees because it got no ears and eyes. If you claim otherwise you gotta prove it.

you mean in the sense that there cannot be atoms unless there is a consciousness of atoms? Haha thread closed. That's brilliant lol.

@Dodo when are you coming back to reality bro? ❤️

@Mvrs solipsism is a real bitch. I struggled with it a lot. But recently I came to realize honestly it doesn't matter. There is only me and my experience of the world anyways. What difference does it make whether others are dream characters or sentient beings? It won't change your experience in the slightest. And you still gotta deal with people as if they are real to survive. So pick that belief over solipsism. It's more pragmatic.

Either way there is only you and your mind. It doesn't matter really.

@The0Self it can't be said. Those who know do not speak. Those who speak do not know.

For me it's non-symbolic. Can't really put it into words. But there comes those moments when you suddenly understand everything. In a moment everthing is revealed. And it can't be said. You know exactly that no matter how you describe it won't give it justice. You can spend hours trying to articulate it and tell others but you know it's pointless and it can't be described. So all you do is just smile and giggle at the impossibility of explaining what the heck was that. Know what I'm saying?

There is a truth right? I mean whatever is is.. right? Whatever is the truth about existence.. That truth exists right? Even if there are no truths.. That would be the truth right? The truth is inescapable as Leo said. He repeats that it's possible to access the absolute truth of reality directly.. Simply because that truth is all of reality so it's actually impossible to not access it. It's really very simple and logical. But most people overlook the obvious.

I have an idea. As I said it's not that there aren't proplems. It's just that I don't care about them since they are not affecting my life. Civilization collapse ain't gonna happen in my lifetime. That's all I care about. After I die.. Let the entire universe collapse.. Who cares?

This is pure ego and judgment. You are not any different than them. A Christian believes you go to hell because you are not a Christian. And you Beileve a Christian is stupid because he is Christian. Same shit. Well that's your own bullshit. Those religious people were indoctrinated into religious bullshit. And you were indoctrinated into this open-mindedness bullshit. The only reason you are open-minded and they aren't is because you were indoctrinated into open-mindedness. Nothing "stupid" about close-mindedness. It's just an environmental accident.

No you and them are identically full of shit. They don't believe weird illogical stuff.. It's only weird from your narrow pov. Consider that all beliefs are equally full of shit. What makes you think yours are any more "logical"? Logical according to whom? I bet that you don't even know what logical means. This is a big trap. You think that you are" better "than them because you are aware of your own bullshit unlike them they are completely lost in their "weird illogical beliefs". Actually no one believes anything. As funny and illogical that sounds. At least not 24/7 right? Lol ?.. When someone says I Believe in god.. He only Believes in God when he says it.. At the moment he doesn't say it the belief ceases to exist. Fun stuff eh?