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LOL. It's so easy to get but over(rationality) makes you blind to the obvious. This question what is the substance of everything? So you are thinking the substance is something else.. You have two things.. The thing and what is it made of.. So what did they solve when they say consciousness is made of brains lol.. The point is what is the substance of "thingness" itself. And where are you going to find that elsewhere? Lol it's right under your nose lol.

I don't know. I have no idea whether a new born dreams or not. It doesn't seem like it but who knows? We take a lot of stuff for granted. You think a rock isn't conscious because it doesn't act or react. But maybe that's just an assumption of yours. Maybe a rock is Conscious in its own way. I mean are you seriously going to say that you actually know?

So are you saying there is finite and the infinite cannot know it or are you saying there isn't a finite and it's all the infinite? Then what refers to the finite? Also define your stuff first what Infinite and what finite are you talking about? These are abstract concepts they don't mean the same thing for everyone. Let's not talk about them as if we have an idea what they mean.

This is false. Pay attention to your experience. What is there. Waking state dream state and deep sleep state. Your true state is deep sleep. This what is ultimately real. Both the waking state and the dream state are dreams. Since you have no idea where do any of them come from. You don't have any frame of reference. Do you remember how do you got here? No. It's instantly lights on boom here I am in this body inside this world. Where did this shit come from? There should be void. Well ask yourself where did your dreams come from? They are being imagined inside the void. Same with this experience right now. It's being imagined inside the void. And there is no limits to what can be imagined inside the void. And ofcourse the void is the dream they are not two .

Watch this to get a taste of what I'm talking about

@Nahm I have no "intentions" no nothing. I'm asking genuinely. Maybe I framed it in a way that creates an impression that I'm going to argue back and forth with you. But that's not true. No worries thx.

Yes. You are the dreamer and the dreamt.

I hear this from you a lot. Would you break it down a little bit. I think the finite can't comprehend the infinite as well. Aren't they same at the end? Not two?

Do not argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference between you.

@allislove @Nahm guys honestly if you don't have anything regarding the subject itself that I'm talking about.. Then (won't say it lol). Honestly I'm only interested in hearing from Leo specifically about this topic. I didn't see "infinity". What I saw is that consciousness is a dream machine. shape shifting substance. It can dream/create /manifest literally any fucking thing it wants. Do you get how radical this is?

Yeah yeah you know what bro listen to this joke.. You think you are talking to someone here..meanwhile you are actually talking to emptiness wearing a meat bag with a bunch of conditioned thoughts. You are talking to nobody. Nobody is talking to nobody and they both think they are somebody. Look within ffs you are nothing son. I know you are probably cringing right now.. Yet I swear by lord Shiva this is exactly what is happening right now.

Beautiful and makes sense. The point that trips me up is that I am God ffs.. I'm doing this to myself.. I'm judging my own creation. I guess it's all part of the cosmic joke.

You are assuming there is a continuous consistent "person" who lives In time. I'm literally not the person who joined the forum back in May. Fuck I'm not the same for two moments bro. It sounds I'm being pedantic but this is with all honesty how it works ?

@Leo Gura Would you address this? I want to understand why it is such that consciousness will dream hell if it's infinitely good and infinitely intelligent? Is it being dreamed randomly like consciousness can't help itself but explode all it's potential? Is there not a choice for consciousness to create only a limited section of its capabilities? Why am I a fool as God to create hell and torture myself? What's the point?

What you see is your dream. Whichever way. There is no other. There is only other in the Dream. You are the center of the universe. There is no one but you here . Stop denying it and deal with yourself as God.

Other is Self.

@allislove Meditation has nothing to do with what I'm asking here. That's not true in my experience. At least if you are referring to the ego.

LMAO good tip bro. @nistake Wrong tag.

I have a smoking addiction. Trying to quit since 2018 but always falling. I realized I was deluding myself. I can keep repeating the cycle of "just one more cigarette" for the rest of my life and will still want "just one more cigarette". It's getting to intense phases. Nowadays I smoke 7 packs a week or so. My uncle just had a heart attack recently because he is a heavy smoker as well. I need to stop or I will be following his path. It's getting to the point I wake up at night to smoke. Any tips?

Interesting perspective. So the entire infinity is contained in this dot . Yet it looks finite at the same time.

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Leo why does it have to be this way? I had a crazy nightmare last night I realized what you are talking about. Consciousness can materialize everything imaginable. This is a total mind killer. In the dream I saw how there is no limit to what can be created by consciousness.. Why just why? Infinity fine I get it but still just fucking why?!! Who is controlling this? There is no limit to what can created and experienced.. But why God is such a fool to use his infinite power to create hell?

It's precisely because there is no difference between what's real and unreal that there is no difference between good news and bad news.

Doesn't infinte potential automatically means infinite actual?. I guess here is how I'm interpreting this using logic. I simply had a crazy dream. The insight is that "well I can I imagine any crazy scenario right now in My head.. And then I can go to bed and dream it. Materialize it. So therefore right now have the capacity to dream up literally any scenario that I can imagine". And I say yes this makes perfect sense. Any flaws here? I guess I'm terrified of this idea since I shared in the OP there is no limit to how horrible of a realm you can imagine and therefore create.

What is real in my experience now is the bed. Ain't no boogey man's here. But I'm certain capable of materializing infinite boogeymans. I'm not saying I'm consciously capable of this right now. The insight is merely that everything you can imagine you can dream.. You can create.