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I haven't had such experiences. So I can't speak with certainty about it. However there is a difference between losing consciousness and physical death.. You lose consciousness daily when you sleep.. That doesn't equal physical death. It happens when either your brain stops functioning.. Or your heart stops pumping blood.. Or your oxygen levels are eliminated. Near-death experiences are usually triggered during singular life-threatening episodes when the body is injured by a heart attack.. shock.. or blunt trauma such as an explosion or a fall. At least as far as I did quick research on it. Most NDE's describe.. . seeing a bright light at the end of a tunnel.. or detaching from one's body and floating above it and even flying off into space. Why the mind should experience the struggle to sustain its operations in the face of a loss of blood flow and oxygen as positive and blissful rather than as panic-inducing remains a mystery. Of course religious people tend to use NDE's to argue of the existence of the soul leaving the body...taking flight and then returning. To me.. All that is still in realm of hearsay and speculation.. Since I haven't experienced NDE myself.. So I can't trust any of these stories. My epistemological position only allows for direct experience. And this means My own direct experience. And my own experience of death up untill now is zero.

Appropriate is relative. So... Yes and no.

Yeah that was kinda my point. Since you didn't experience death yet... You have no idea what it is. @Gesundheit gtfo.

Haha this assumes death is annihilation. What if it is something else?

Death of the body. Ever heard of that? @Inliytened1 I consider myself awake. @Gesundheit sometimes it's hard to take you seriously bro.

A delusional hallucination is not "actual death" one might argue.. Nevertheless it sounds like an interesting experience. @Gesundheit relax on me a bit.

If only it was so easy

You wanna die basically?

@Strangeloop why do you expect your dick to work 24 /7..? For How long have you been a male?

@Mason Riggle I know the answer myself. Was Asking him to show my point. @nistake perhaps you misunderstood or not seeing where I'm coming from.. Given that anything other than what is present right now is uncertain... How do you know your (personal) death is real?

I know all about oneness very well. Oneness is a fundamental truth. We are all made of the same physical components originating from the same source and our bodies were constructed out of our environment.. our bodies are at one with everything around it. The biological and environmental system are collectively one system. A change in either affects the other. Oneness is synonymous with interdependence or 2 different ways in which you are saying the same thing. Everything - down to the atom - depends upon everything else for it to exist. This is similar to the Buddhist concept of 'emptiness' in that nothing possesses an independent existence. So when body dies.. We observe it dissolving into the soil and Merging back with the universe.. Same like a cup of water if it's get thrown back at a lake.. I thought of that analogy before but I'm not certain.. This still in the realm of speculation.

I consider myself awake.. That's how I said death isn't factual. Because I've arrived that only present moment is truth. Let me ask you this.. How do you even know that death is real?!

bare in my mind.. I have practiced meditation for a year -- I could feel this sense of oneness (quicker than that possibly).. and it become palpably clear that I am not my body (exclusively).. mainly from observing the interconnection between every aspect of my direct experience and how they are in some sort of indirect communion.. harmoniously interacting. Yet it seems that the body is the center piece... It's not that awareness is shining from my room door.. From the body. And as far evidence goes.. The body dies.

LOL being a vegetable? How do you know what's that like? ?(Salvia).

Ironic.

Elaborate.. One liner

You are trying to match your direct experience with their experiences . That's exactly backwards.... Start with your own direct experience.. Not with theirs. If you can't verify a guru's Claim in your direct experience then it's not true (for you at least).

Honestly this forum is for entertainment more than serious consciousness work. If you expect it to be more than that.. It was your fault.

@Javfly33 @Javfly33 sounds like a story to me

What do you mean?

Even after the technological revolution in the last 100 years .. And after the internet era where information about whatever subject is now available under your fingertips.. And with the rise of the atheist wave in tandem with this scientific revolution.. There is is still basically billions and billions of people around the world who subscribe to various kinds of religions. And they Believe in all sorts of myths and "unscientific" matters regardless of lack of evidence and the contradiction with scientific evidence. Faith in God.. Or whatever else supernatural and meta-physical aspects of reality seems to fill the existential void in people's lives. It does work for religious people. If it didn't.. They would have left their beliefs. Which should perhaps make it surprising that scientists have found.. again and again.. That those with a spiritual practice or who follow religious beliefs tend to be happier than those who don’t. Study after study has found that religious people tend to be less depressed and less anxious than nonbelievers.. better able to handle the vicissitudes of life than nonbelievers. What's your take on religion? Do you follow any specific scripture or organized religion? What are the keys that distinguish between religion and science and philosophy in that some ( a lot) of people seem to actually lean toward beliefs than evidence-based or logic-based knowledge about the world?

Cute.

What if something and nothing are just concepts.. And the chair is just a chair (as it appears and unknowable)?