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@LastThursday sounds like @VeganAwake ? I'm assuming "me" is the body-mind complex as a whole. Not the character that can change due to age and life experiences. I'm not asking what happens to my character because it's obviously changing all the time. But rather what happens to 'experience' itself if that makes sense.

What 'next one'? How do you know there is a next one? Maybe Yolo?

Exactly. Since reality is constantly changing. There isn't a present moment because that assumes a static point of time.

No. What about 30 seconds? You keep repeating this sentence as if it were from your holy book. You obviously don't know if that's true because you didn't die yet.

@Mu_ huh?

There is an old Buddhist saying " form is empty. Emptiness is form". It's basically pointing to the collapse of the duality between somethingness and nothingness. I've realized it many times.. That something and nothing are identical. The mistake is thinking that "nothing" is some blank black void somewhere. No.. Everything we are experiencing all the time is precisely nothing. It's completely hollow and unstable. No different than appearance of a Dream. Even scientifically speaking.. If you break down the atoms that make up the universe.. You will get waves of energy. Break down the energry and you get nothingness . We know now through quantum physics that the universe is literally made out of nothing. But I stil can't wrap my head around... Why there is "stuff"? Why colors and sounds and objects? It's utterly miraculous that these things exist at all.. Like if you examine any object or just your own body.. "Wow what the fuck is this? ?." . But we take it for granted because we've been alive for lots and lots. My question : I get that there is no difference between something and nothing. But I can't wrap my mind around why there is "stuff". If the universe was just pure empty blankness that would still be nothing but rather in its most "pure" and original form possible. So why did God bother to say "let there be light"?

@Nahm NOTICE that you are saying there is not two..meanwhile you are creating two by insisting on the distinction between thought and perception. Isn't that itself a duality (twoness) ? That would be two?

Alright got it. 'two' is a thought and not found in perception. Will grant ya that. Does that apply to 'not two' as well ? And everything else that can be said about perception is therefore false and you wanna be left with naked perception? Yes.. two is a thought that's arising. It's not a perception. but it corresponds to perception. If you look at the mirror.. The thought " 3 or 4 eyes" won't arise because it doesn't correspond to perception. And once again.. how do you relate that to my original question here about the existence of stuff?

@Mason Riggle?

@The0Self if there is no beginning then there is no end? Was there an ultimate beginning or is it infinte in all directions? Dude that's creepy af It should be self-sufficient. You? If there is no beginning and no ending then it's infinite. And therefore nowhere.

It's comforting to see how clueless everyone is.

Got it. So basically no body fucking knows? @Inliytened1 where did the possibilities come from? You could think of alternative being an empty formlessness without any potential. Well look.. It's both two and not two. That's the mindfuck of it. For example you can say there is no experiencer experiencing experience. Experience is one undevided whole. But on the other hand you can locate apparent twoness and boundaries. If you go look at the mirror.. "you" will see two separate eyes. They are united by the same filed of experience yet they are devided and separate nonetheless.

@fridjonk haha trust me I don't The latest theory is that of the big crunch. The universe will reverse it's expanding process that happened with the big bang and crunch on itself. and that's the end as modern physics suggests. What do i know? All possibilities are possible.

@Nahm @Nahm OK let's stop trying to outsmart each other. I honestly and as usual not sure what you are on about lol.. Will give you last chance (?) to clarify what you mean in the water and ice example. Tell me water is analogous to what and how do you explain the existence of the physical stuff we see around.

It's been 4 days now. I barely slept two hours since then. Across that period. I feel like a flimsy piece of shit. Extreme headache and fatigue. Can't do anything during the day. I tried warm baths.. Masturbating.. Hot herbs.. Meditation.. Soothing music.. And nothing seems to work. I struggled with bad dreams and nightmares earlier this month and ever since then my sleep quality has been going down hill and now barely can sleep. I feel like a zombie. What to do now? ?

@Nahm didn't know that being vague on purpose and speaking word salads is a nuance. Don't be annoyed that I keep coming up with the same crap all the time. Because it's gonna continue

I wouldn't say a distinction is purely mind created.. It is definitely inherent in things themselves. For example you don't project or imagine the difference between a hot and a cold drink. You can actually feel the difference between the two. However the distinction between somethingness and nothingness seems unclear to me. Also distinction between real and imaginary seems like a mental projection (thinking of dreams as an example).

So it's just pure magic? You are basically saying it is what it is and no one really knows

So is something and nothing indistinguishable or "mutually arising"? To say they are codependent or mutually arising suggests that they are distinct and not the same thing (creates a duality)

Thanks everyone for the tips. I finally was able to drift off and slept a good 11 hours last night. Wehoo what a relief

Water is analogous to awareness or reality itself? Water does know the thought "why" via the human mind. Water is ice that's true. But also it's a different modulation of ice. So they are also different. It does appear as something it's not. For example if the underlying substance of everything is one (nondual) then how do we have appearant separation? We look around and see trees and cars and people.. Separation. You didn't explain how do we get diversity of "stuff 'from the basic nondual substance.

@acidgoofy can't perform any heavy effort. Feeling dizzy af.

@Preety_India no none at all.

@Forestluv Got it. Just sharing it with you.. let's put it this way.. An empty house is not the same as a house full of people.. Yet both are equally nothing fabrically speaking. The universe is "metaphorically " a full house. My question why isn't it an "empty house" even tho I understand that it's nothing either way. But some forms of nothing are more nothing than others? Idk lol

@blackchair Is anyone real at any level?