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The Buddha said it's "Desire ". What do you think?

How? This goes against our survival instinct.

The edge. As I stand on the Edge of a cliff I am standing between Life and death I am staring into light And darkness As I stand on the Edge of a cliff I am standing on the Edge of the universe I stare in to infinity As I stand on the Edge of a cliff I am standing on the edge Of earth staring into The solar system. I am in awww.

With New Eyes I lay still as if I were a breathing corps. My heartbeat reminds me I still live. My mind wanders aimlessly; It drifts in and out of the borders of valid conception, and withers to its content. Am I alive, or waking from a prolonged dream? These thoughts contradict my understanding of this world. They break the grips of my reality, and plunge me into the unknown. Although the notion tinges a world of fear. My perspective shifts; My consciousnesses fades away and is vibrantly replaced by a wave of blissful euphoria. This is a strange existence. Time is irregular; It means nothing here. Days seem like seconds; minutes seem like weeks. O' to what a mishap, a folly happenstance, a fringe to conventionality. To who or what pleasure do I owe? Part of me wishes to leave this place. Albeit a part wishes to remain. I am in love with this realm, yet I know there is somewhere else that I must be. So now I set sail to find the world that I came from; with a pleasant gift from the one I left. I look upon an old existence with new eyes.

Only when you die you will know.

@Mu_ that was good. I get what your saying.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Noble_Truths I kinda see your point.

@mandyjw lol.. Is that you in the GIF ?

How is voluntary suffering not suffering?

Again you deny external source of suffering and reduce it all to resistance. I don't resonate with this. I gave you a concrete example but you just skipped over it. From my experience.. Which migh be different from yours... Life is the house of illusion.. of narcissism.. of love. If you can't submit to that.. and if you're not efficient enough.. you're gonna get kicked out soon. Life cares.. but death doesn't. Life wants you to spread delusion.. to spread love. It's all fine. Maybe you don't belong here. Maybe you're already dead. Who knows? Life is also the house of duality. of balance... of opposites. You can't just go and live in the extremes. Like this everything is love nonsense. You gotta always level down to where things are at. The more paradoxical and complicated you are.. the more blessed you'll be. Life worships complexity and it walks over simplicity. Deny that and see. You will die.lol

@Tim R There you go ?

I'm probably off-base here so I guess I'm asking more so to poke holes in my thoughts.. 1) non-being is impossible a la Parmenides' "is not". Thus existence must exist. 2) Existence must exist in such a way that what is outside of it is not non-existence. The line between existence and non-existence can not be analogous to the line that separates an inside from an outside. 3) Consciousness is this dividing line that details existence. Consciousness itself is the very shape of reality, the form of existence. Without Consciousness of existence there would be non-being, and similarly without existence there would be no Consciousness, and so non-being. The two arise equally and are dependent. A dependence of the objective on the subjective, and vice versa. *there is still room that our Consciousness is necessarily necessary. It seems this form of Consciousness is still allowed to be the result of evolutionary game theory with the above points. If there were only infrared-sensing consciousnesses then that would be existence, but existence could still exist. I'm not quite sure what connects point 2 and point 3.. I'm probably wrong somewhere

There is a paradox/contradiction here.. You implied that the resistance is to an external suffering thats already separate and independent. Then you say it's the resistance that causes suffering. But resistance to what? To an already existent suffering. Then it can't be the cause of it. If you bite your tongue.. Does the mere sensation cause suffering or your unwillingness to experience it?? Why does resistance to certain experiences exist in the first place?

What's the 'you' in this context?

@Nahm it's not so much the label as it is with the meaning. But As you say, at the end of the day, all Labels and concepts must be dropped. But we can only point to the indescribable.

@Tim R I don't have a question today I'm making an argument that existence is absolute and nothing is outside it. And that consciousness =existence. However I wasn't sure if my points were valid or correct.

Maybe you misunderstood my point. I'm actually saying exactly that. There is nothing outside of existence. Non existence does not exist. Therefore it's not even outside of existence. There isn't an outside to existence.

@WaveInTheOcean what you're saying has nothing to do with my question.

If one is terrified of the idea of hell and death and such things.. How to put those fears to rest once and for all?

Thanks for the responses everyone... But none is helpful lol

to extract a truth from a theory or from your thoughts - is difficult - one that stands up to everybody and everything. How far does "we feel sensation of pain" go as a universal truth for people. Animals and insects also react to pain. Well if you feel pain, then the truth would be that you (as an individual) is feeling pain. I believe that there are deep underlying truths, that are dictated by some inherent logical reasoning, like 1+1=2. From these basic truths, everything builds up into more abstract truths, that still are true, but are occasionally diluted with things that aren't necessarily true. I think some people (reasonable people) are the better at picking up these inherent truths than other relatively ignorant people. And these reasonable people can derive truth much easier than the ignorant minds. If the truth changes, or varies, it was never the truth to begin with. Merely opinion or an Incomplete Perspective. Even something like 1+1=2.. Is a relative truth. Reality is a slippery slope indeed. And assumptions are just that. It seems unlikely that the first math equation we are taught, 1 + 1 = 2, is only correct under a specific set of assumptions that are easily proven false. I believe everyone reading this can agree that all points in the Universe are unique, that is, each occupies a space that is subject to unique forces. Therefore, each object, no matter how similar it may appear to another, is not similar. Therefore, how can "2" of anything exist?

@RMQualtrough it's definitely a paradox. Something and nothing are identical. You can't get it through the mind. Takes a massive awakening.

Form is empty. Emptiness is form. Something and nothing are identical.

I see ?...

That's a tricky question. They are imagined right now. But they might be an actuality in the future. Right??