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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@zurew I see what you are saying about unquestionable assumptions (axioms). But that's like the foundation of all knowledge ,science, philosophy etc. We can't do away with axioms because then it becomes impossible to build any valid theory from scratch. Its very difficult to see your own delusions but very easy to see delusions in others. You have to adopt an attitude of wanting the truth and not giving a shit if it corresponds to the ideas you already have. I followed the following rules: Let the chips fall where they may. Be skeptical of everything you hear. Consider it to be quite possibly wrong unless it's proven right. People lie and exaggerate all day every day. Groups of people do also. If anyone tells you about something that's supernatural, they are most likely completely full of shit or totally misreading evidence. Have honest talks with smart people and ask their opinion on some ideas your curious about. Don't trust anyone's thoughts completely no matter how many times in the past they've been right. -
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usually. The only reason I'm able to acknowledge my delusions is because of medication. Without medication, I would have a complete lack of insight. So I guess I can't really call them delusions, as they aren't a fixed belief, but rather they are unusual 50% beliefs. For example, I used to have a delusion about a government agency following me. That hasn't completely gone away, but I would say it has lessened about 60-70%. So while I still have paranoia about it, it isn't a solid, concrete belief. -
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura I once asked this question in meditation and the answer I got was that the only difference between delusion and reality is follow-through. Einstein’s theory of relativity was delusional at some point but then he worked it out and it was correct. Newton had many theories that were delusional but his laws of motion were worked out with careful experimentation and observation and they became truth. The problem arises when you do not know which ideas may be genius and which may be delusional. The only real answer is to test those ideas against reality. If you have a belief about reality that you cannot test, most likely it is a bit delusional. If you have an idea that you think might be genius that nobody else can follow, there is a small chance it might be a good idea but most likely it is delusional. Think of ideas like sketches; some of them turn out good the first time, most of them you crumple up and start over. Once you get someone else to see the art in the sketch the idea slips one step closer from delusion to reality. -
Happiness in life is determined by the circumstances in which you were born. If you were born into a wealthy, happy family you will likely be financially secure and happy until the end of your life. If you are born into a dysfunctional family of drug addicts you will likely be just like your parents because everything in life is perpetual as life is a competition and money is God in our society. If you are upper class you are God, if you are lower class you are treated like dirt. Drugs are for poor people to escape the pain of being poor so they can transition to homelessness where they can commit suicide after they have paid their dealers their money and time. The rich get richer. Every dollar is blood money. If you are wealthy you have everything. If you are poor you have nothing. That is how capitalism works. If you are on this forum you have been duped by the rich. Nobody has any free will except to be governed by impulses and primitive instincts like fear. If addicts had free will they wouldn't be addicts in the first place. The element of chance when you were born just happened to result in circumstances that encourage addiction, and a bad life, and this random number generator just happened to spit out the right numbers for the person next to you for them to never have any real problems. Once you are on a downwards spiral the only place to go is to continue going dowwards because nobody tells you rock bottom is actually death. The people that commit suicide just get there faster. Rich people have a life drive and poor people have a chronic death drive. The people most prone to child abuse, and other crimes are, you guessed it: poor people. In the animal kingdom the prey are destined to suffer being eaten alive while they yelp and scream in pain, while the predator enjoys it. The rich are predators, the poor prey. The gap between poor and rich is also shrinking. Some people are just born to suffer while someone else enjoys it because that's their destiny, so they have no free will. Why live like that? Better to just die than accept your lot of misery in life. Life has no bounds for cruelty, and no bounds for good luck and everything else you can never have for the randomly selected people that are the lucky ones which are 90% of people. The brain is engineered from the ground up to avoid pain and encourage addiction. Everyone is screwed over eventually. If addiction doesn't screw you over life does. Either one will leave you wanting to kill yourself brutally. Meanwhile there are filthy rich housewives that only need to think about having kids with their gorgeous husband. They get to enjoy life to the fullest. To be a man is to suffer from a perpetual inferiority complex of never being good enough. You have to provide as a man. To be born a rich woman you are a Goddess. You can live consequence free until the day you die. You don't even have to live in our reality anymore. You can take hallucinogenic drugs until you die. After the constant harem of life, what do you get in the afterlife? Heaven, believe it or not. Guess the chances of you or me to go to heaven?. Only because we're born with the wrong genitals. After all it's way easier when you brain literally produces less dopamine from watching porn if you're a blessed female. With no refractory period you can literally be a sex Goddess in this life with no consequences. Fuck being a man. Being a man is living in a constant existential crisis due to a fight between your lower brain in your crotch and your upper brain which is in your head. It's literally a joke. Being a man is nature's joke. You know what happens to males in the animal kingdom? They are disposed of. Their hearts give out at the moment reproduction is successful. A female praying mantis bites the head off a male. Men are expendable only to be used and discarded.
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Note : please treat this seriously. I've spent a lot of time to wrap my mind around the stuff I'm about to say . I've experienced a radical awakening from listening to Leo's solipsism video. And I have now perfect understanding of what awakening is and I can clear up your confusions regarding solipsism. Feel free to ask me anything about awakening and I will try my best to come up with a perfect answer. But before that let's give a definitive answer to the solipsism question. Note: words like "pov" .. "You" .. "Me" are just for communication purposes to deliver the idea. Don't get too hung up on them . Am I all alone? Other people are real independent external agencies or dream characters in my world? If I don't have access to anything other than my pov.. How can I be sure others are real? Well here is the final answer. Your pov is absolute truth. Please notice this. You don't know anything else. and whatever you come to know must be inside your pov. So is my pov. My pov is also absolute truth . How can we have two absolute truths? It's not two ... notice my pov is within your pov and your pov is within my pov. So they are actually one. I exist inside you(your pov) and you exist inside me (my pov) and me exists inside you and repeat and repeat.... So we both are groundless.. For you to exist for me, I must experience you.. And for me to exist for you, you must experience me .. So ultimately none of us are real only to the extent of experiencing each others. =me and you the same thing. Get this? Lol. Another way to put it.... I am nothing but your pov. And you are nothing but my pov. So ultimately none of us are "there" by themselves. We are dreaming each others up. Make sure you get this. This is good for a mindfuck. Everything that can exist for you must be perceived and considered by you. Look and see. Anything literally anything is but an appearance in your pov. So even when you are talking to me you are talking to an image in your mind. If you say "no lol I'm talking to a real person with awareness" .. Then you are talking to this idea that you've constructed. You've constructed what I am and then you are talking to your construction. The actuality is I'm just an an image in your world right now. You are becoming the image right now as you are looking at the text. So yes you are always ever talking with yourself. And of course I'm saying this to myself. It's not a zen deception per say. I have nothing else to do but interact with myself. Hope this ends the solipsism confusion for good. If you have any questions go ahead.
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Everyone is afraid of death. Dying is a terrifying thought to the individual, and it brings sadness to that individual's close ones. And there are many that become like 'vegetables' (technically speaking 'vegetative state') and live a terrible life before dying. Latter is more tragic than the former. But I always felt like life is the real tragedy. We always struggle to keep our lives, maintain our bodies, keep our relationships, to be happy, etc. And we have to put a great effort to fulfill all these, yet at the end if we do not achieve what we expected we feel sad. However, death is not like that. It is a peaceful state in which you can stop all the running and struggling, and be calm and quite. So I feel like life as a tragedy and death as a gift.
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I tend to talk to myself all day long more or less in a narrative way conversing with myself I guess. I'm never really sure what the hell is responding back to me. I've been told I am psychic and I am sure of that to a small extent. Most people will roll their eyes and say sure... But though I cannot prove it I am certain there is something listening to me and occasionally responding. Call me schitzophrenic of whatever, I'm indifferent to that. It's gotten to an odd point where it's become an ordeal. I am an anxious person by my own faults. Pretty much based on the topics I choose to look it. Regular **** loses my attention and more complex and frightening topics give me a sense of dread but I tend to go towards them. I think it's because of the absurd and scary nature of many topics. War, god, life, human characteristics and the reasons for this world. Most of them are meaningless. They have no bearing on my life but I tend to be drawn towards that **** out of fascination and pure obsession. I can not really turn my brain off. It's a computer that keep processing **** all day long.
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's true .I didn't take any psychedelics and I have mostly theoretical knowledge about it . But I really experienced an awakening from listening to Leo's video on solipsism. i just find this idea interesting. I'ts one of the most hated beliefs in esoteric philosophy and most people think it's defined as i am all that exist and everyone else in the world is not real. Viewing it this way is wrong because it makes it seem like you have an over inflated ego. When you contemplate on it and ask it questions it's really defined as anything outside your mind is unsure to exist. The only thing you can't doubt is your own existence, even if i tell you're not real, you know for a fact you are and no one can prove to you otherwise. The fact that you exist is the essence of solipsism. The part where it gets confusing, is that it states anything outside the mind is unsure to exist because you can't experience it without the five senses. Everything that is outside is happening within your mind. "The body-mind and the world are objects, they appear in us, we do not appear in them -
@MsNobody Neymar is as skilful as Robinho,Ronaldinho, kaka etc.. The only problem is he is still immature. He can't win you the world Cup.
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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There is no reason why we exist or do not exist. Existence itself is a thing of beauty and meaning and reason. We exist and the rest coexist with us and to be significant or valued in society is one value among many and that is not the end or meaning of living. I love life and when I see a flower in my garden or simply a blade of grass my soul leaps up. Or when a small baby smiles at me and to see the innocent smile, totally a natural one, as we adults smile artificially faking happiness, I feel happy. What I think is existence has little to do with being esteemed, commended and significant in society. It is more than all these things.
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Nothing. What do you mean ?
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I think if he did It he will be officially the GOAT. Despite the disappointing season with PSG.
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@itachi uchiha ozil was the best playmaker in the world in his prime . Unfortunately he declined severely last years.
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@Asayake thank you. I'm feeling slightly better right now
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Everything I do is meaningless and truly to my own amusement,i feel no reason to change the world whatsoever and truly don't care.I like myself just the way I am and i dont see that in any way shape or form connecting to my legacy,achievements or desires about changing the world
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@Leo Gura glad to see you into football (they call it soccer in America i guess ol). Oh i remember..don't remind me of these terrible times .
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It has two sides to it .the first is being completely hopeless and sorrow. And live in meaninglessness and lack of ambition. And I'm stuck in this phase. Don't know how to make it to the other side . the positive side is that..If truly nothing matters, then we have the chance in this life to do whatever the hell we want and be whoever the hell we want to be. That’s f*cking awesome. This life is about going balls to the wall and experiencing it for what it is and what you make of it; take risks, challenge yourself, push the envelope, break rules, discover new things, learn about the world and the people in it, chase your dreams, thrive in failure, find peace in success, be happy. But I'm not there yet .
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@Raze thanks for sharing those . I like shinzen.
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@Asayake @Loba I’ve been focusing on all the negative in my life and multiplying it in my head, creating this general mindset of apathy and disdain for this existence. I found myself asking why. Why do I feel deflated, demotivated, apathetic? Why am I okay with letting myself feel like that? Last Thursday I walked up to Tower to overlook the city (which helped remind me of how small we all are and further emphasized the whole nothing matters mindset), before going out with a few friends and making some arguably poor judged decisions .. However: it was one of the happiest mornings I’ve had in a long time. After having a fun, relaxed and genuine night with these friends I realized a few things. I have been holding on to so much negative energy revolving around my current life circumstances. And I realized that this is what matters when you decide nothing matters: if you are going to hold on to that mindset (which I do), and if you’re going to take the positive things in life and dwell on the nihilistic fact that they don’t matter, then you have to do the same thing with the negative things, too. If you’re going to say nothing matters, then believe nothing matters (cause nothing does matter!) and stop wasting so much mental energy and angst on this ultimately meaningless negativity! There is a fine line between cynical and beautiful. The divide between nihilism comes in depending on where and how you see it, and where and how you use it. It’s cynical when you take all the good things in life and beat them down with their ultimate lack of significance, which in turn only makes you beat yourself down. It’s beautiful when you let the fact that nothing matters drive you to make this life as joyful, exciting, and wonderful as possible. Knowing that nothing matters and we are each teeny tiny creatures of the utmost unimportance, it is important that we make our own meaning out of life. That might sound very contradictory, but that’s really where the fun comes in: if there is no real meaning in life, then we can make life be about whatever the hell we want! We give our own meaning to our own lives, no matter what that means. And it doesn’t matter what it means, because there is no matter of meaning in this context (I don’t think that made any sense but if you’re picking up what I’m putting down, good on ya.)
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Fuck being a man .we are doomed to suffer then die .
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@snowyowl I know that suicide is not an option. I dont have the balls to do it. However, when the hell never ends because you're too traumatised to do anything about it and you have no fight left anymore, and you dread every day because you're terrified of what bad experience you could have next. I live every day in crippling fear of other people because I know they're going to make my life miserable if I stand up for myself in any way. Some people have so much power over you they can do anything to you and you can't do anything to them. The only option is to leave, but you're too scared to do the things you need to do to leave.