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Dude what kind of conversation is this ? Please raise the quality of your communication.

@James123 well first of all you are the one who mentioned the Big Bang and you are the one who posted that picture above that’s how existence works without explaining what it means ..seems like some form of cosmology . I cited those physics theories not to suggest that science can ever give me the final answer because science is chasing its tail . In the two posts I stated clearly that the final answer is that existence is eternal . And what’s with before birth ? And why do you sound like you need to take a nap lol?😂

Everyone are familiar with the Big Bang theory. I even had a brief class about it in high school in geology class. But most people are not familiar with pre-big bang theories . There are actually some theories in modern physics that explain or at least attempt to explain where did the singularity came from . And that’s why scientific atheism is leading the score right now on religious creationism. There are few theories which physicists are studying : quantum loop gravity (the universe is eternally contracting and rebounding endlessly)..string theory ..and in quantum physics there is a theory that says at the very very fundamental level of reality there are things called fields of self-created particles. It literally says some particles arise out of nowhere for no reason (of course that’s a laymen simplifying from my part ). But my point is whichever way you want to slice it there must be something eternal and uncaused and just there since forever till forever .call it god or field or nothing or anything. That’s the only explanation for existence.

@James123 The way I understand the picture is all of the universe emerged from a dimensionless singularity ? There are two options for how did existence come about . Either existence emerged from nonexistence for literally no reason at all and here we are . But this one is simply impossible if you contemplate it . Even if you are so skeptical and open minded and trying to think from ground zero without assumptions. Existence can’t come from nonexistence for no reason ..if you accept that it can you can’t use any form reasoning for anything . It’s complete philosophical nihilism and sophistry. If you accept that you can accept anything even if it contradicts your direct reality. the only explanation is existence came from existence. Which means existence is eternal and uncreated . That’s the only explanation. Since existence exists right now then it must be eternal because we just established it can’t be created from nothing . You can avoid calling that eternal existence “god” If you don’t like that word because of religious connotation as a bearded man in the clouds .

@Joseph Maynor fair enough . Have a nice day/evening .

Yes exactly. If you don’t think or interpret your experience you will just find events happening . You have to use your intellect to make a conclusion based on what you’re experiencing.

exactly that . What’s your point? I will flip the script on you for you . Riddle me this : for your entire have quenched your thirst through drinking water. How do you know that next time you drink it won’t just quench you? just to be clear ..obviously this world seems to follow static rules. But what keeps those laws constant ? Please contemplate seriously .

@Joseph Maynor I explained it to the best of my ability. That’s simply it . In the physical world an event follows and event following an event . The idea of causation isn’t in actuality . It’s in your head .

Yes it’s a huge philosophical conundrum. Simply put with an example: you are thirsty . So you drink a glass of water . Then you feel hydrated and refreshed. You then conclude the quenching of thirst happens because you drank the water. what ACTUALLY happened in physical reality is drinking the water followed by the feeling of satisfaction. Now ..”quenching of thirst was created by drinking “ . This statement is NOT found in the physical world . It’s a mental abstraction. What you have in the actual world is thirst +drinking + quenching. An event following another event . “Causation “ is NOT found in the world . It’s a mental interpretation.

Please don’t troll him. He is sharing something that feels genuine to him in the moment. Obviously some kind of flicker switch or insight dawned on him and he thinks he grasped something beyond the mundane stuff you suggest. This is the spirituality and awakening section.. if you’re after ”fucking hot woman “ is essentially thinking with your dick . There is a section for this. What OP is expressing is what Leo repeats day and night regarding what the highest degree of awakening is. Btw when I say “thinking with your dick” I’m not disrespecting you..it’s just I notice you are obsessed with dating and with your lay count . By all means pursue your authentic desires shamelessly..just don’t expect different human beings in different phases of lives share the same priorities as you.

Of course he was born to be the best player ever without a doubt . It’s a gift from god .

welp..couldn’t you think of a million dollars instead ? lol . Don’t make Ronaldo angry . I expect a third goal from him . That will be a direct clash to Messi’s top performances . And whether you are a Messi fan or Ronaldo fan ..this is for the benefit of us as fans who have watched the two best footballers ever .

I agree . You might like this video . Rare footage of Ramana Maharshi

I mostly only eat meat with veggies soup and drink fresh juices (I squeeze the fruit manually without adding sugar) . I like the taste of pepper ..onion ..and spices. The natural result after eating spicy food for a period of time I start craving sugar like crazy . And I get dizzy .

Some ancient Islamic theologians and mystics have denied causality as well before David Hume was even born . They said things don’t actually happen because of the previous causes but because of god’s will through apparent causes . For example if you burn in fire what’s actually burning you is God’s will not the fire.. just as in a dream a bird might shit on your suit and you would believe that the cause of the dirt on your suit was caused by the bird dropping the shit on you ..but actually the actual cause is your will as the dreamer. ultimately you must deconstruct all of reality . All of logic and mathematics and science are not absolutely true . They are not absolutely untrue as well ..they are just conditionally true .

actually the more I grow up and mature it becomes clearer to me that god is real .

It depends on which religion you’re talking about. In Hinduism we have a he god and a she goddess . In the Leonism GOD is something nobody on this forum can ever comprehend.

It’s true in a sense even though I’m not sure what is the clutch here. My mental state is in direct correlation with the physical world . Obviously they are inseparable. Since they both are parts of reality they must be related. The question is which one is more fundamental? Or are Leo saying both are one ? But if both are one then it’s a strange loop . But the clutch seems to be that the mental is more Fundamental as Leo is a proponent of idealism .

@James123 the Quran was said to be channeled through infinite intelligence. Even if you are Urdu and don’t understand Arabic it still touch you.

If Messi wins this time again and won the golden boat of this year’s World Cup..Ronaldo might commit suicide. Lol I’m impressed how he can carry such agility in moving in this age . He plays like he has been in his prime .

Thanks for sharing this with us. Try to get tangible help for your physical suffering which you mentioned . It’s difficult to find clarity in your life regarding existential matters if your basic everyday experience of life is filled with unease . Regarding your mental suffering.. have you tried visiting a therapist/ psychiatrist or tried antidepressants? I was suffering from anxiety and depression and suicidal tendencies in the past and these things have helped me immensely even though I didn’t believe there was any point in taking them . Don’t give up your hope in getting better . I also suggest daily meditation.. daily prayer.. daily gratitude affirmations .. and a way of expressing . It seems like writing this expression helps in the release process you desire . You can start a journal and write daily about how you feel . This in itself can help you feel better. I would not recommend philosophizing too much about existential matters now . Because you clearly suffer from depression and suicidal ideation. Try to fix that before you start thinking of things like this. Hope you find peace soon .

One of my favorites. The Quran is so heart touching. this Recitation from this chapter is very powerful.

This is an unwise shit post that just occurred to me ..I've been here for close to 5 years now and some members here are alike . The odd thing is they still have a stupid cute little picture as their pfp . Sigh ...you guys owe a right on us . DO A FACE REVEAL! Don't be shy..we ain't gonna judge your looks . And don't be afraid..no hackers will steal your pics and make memes out of it . You can't be posting regularly for half a decade and have thousands of posts under your belt and still have a cute little flower as a profile picture 😂. Come the fuck on ! Show me those handsome faces . @Breakingthewall @Carl-Richard @Keryo Koffa @OBEler

He sees romantic and sexual love as more than just feelings between two people. they reveal one of the deepest truths about life itself. Love is the force that pulls us toward another person and makes us want to connect. When a man sees a woman who touches his heart..he feels drawn to her. He wants to know her.. talk to her.. and be loved by her. If she feels the same way..their love grows into a deep bond that brings two lives together.The fullest expression of that bond is both emotional and physical. Through sex two people unite and quite literally become one person . And from that union..a new life is created. A child is born because two people came together in love.This is why love is at the center of existence. Love brings people together. Union creates new life. Creation flows from love. love and sex are not just desires ..it is the power that drives life forward. That is why Osho sees both love and sex as sacred: they are expressions of the same creative force that gives rise to life itself.