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These two videos totally shattered my anxiety and worry about sleep and immortality and such topics. It's a matter of understanding what sleep is ..and what the real self is ..and what is mortal and what is immortal.

I don't remember anything prior to when I was 6 years old. Let alone prior to my birth . Have you experienced directly the birth of yourself ? The moment you came into existence? The moment you jumped out of eternal oblivion into a world ? All I remember past a certain point in childhood is like a Television's buffering. It isn’t that there must be a little observer sitting inside your head watching everythin...it’s that “obviousness” itself implies some form of awareness . I'm not saying what is the origin of life .I'm saying the origin of consciousness.you are a conscious being .what is the origin of consciousness ? It doesn't matter ?yes it doesn't matter but that's a separate issue . Either answer the question or say I don't know . No problem. Or ? Life is just :wake up..go to work .. sweat ..eat ..drink.. piss ..shit ..fuck.. reproduce ..die..and then nothing ever happened ?!

Yes that's true .bear in mind it's a metaphorical story. It says the Devil (or Serpent ) told them if you eat the fruit you shall become eternal and deathless like God himself. He lied to them since the tree of life is the ticket to immortality. The tree of knowledge will make them see good and evil ..which means judgment and imperfection ..which is a metaphore for losing your innocence as a child and you start judging things .luckily we are hippy folks so ..lol

@cetus the more one ages the more conditioning accumulates . Children like angels . Childhood itself is heaven .

The sermon on the mount from King James bible . This is found in book of Matthew( it's written in Shakespearian English not plain English lol: Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. Blessed are the mercifuls: for they shall obtain mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven. Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill… But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment… Ye have heard that it was said, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Again, ye have heard that it hath been said… Thou shalt not forswear thyself… But I say unto you, Swear not at all… Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye… But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil… Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you… Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them… When thou doest thine alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth. And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are… After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance… Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth… But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven… For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. No man can serve two masters… Ye cannot serve God and Devil. Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink… Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not… yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. Take therefore no thought for the morrow… Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged… And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction… Beware of false prophets… Ye shall know them by their fruits. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven… Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew… and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand .

@VeganAwake In what right do you demand an answer from me to your question? First answer my questions ..since i asked first .

@VeganAwake If now isn’t a good time.. that’s okay. Can we come back to this later? It’s important to me. you are backing off .

1-What knows that there was no formed existence prior to birth ? When you wake up from sleep..how do you say " I slept well "? What knows that there was no formed existence going on during deep sleep ? 2-the body is a piece of flesh and bones ..how can dead matter produce consciousness? Are you aware that scientists till this day have no idea what the fuck consciousness is ?

You specifically asked what is it "Spiritually ". You didn't ask what it is biologically for example or philosophically . existence includes both yin and yang. You can't even know what happiness is without suffering and vice versa . simplistic way of putting sleep is losing consciousness in the relative sense . consciousness vs unconsciousness or you can say existence vs non existence. The only reason you think what's happening right now is consciousness or existence is because you go to sleep and lose consciousness. If sleep didn't exist..this experience right now would still exist but it won't be labelled as consciousness or existence.

Well ask yourself since you called him a bullshit seller totally unnecessarily..meanwhile you are posting on his forum. Also Leo is obviously conscious of this message. He was done talking about these things back in 2016 . I deeply enjoy your messages but the only downside is you don't have to keep shitting on people who simply share different views than you .

How is this known?

Pure empty existence in its absolute form . Dreams and the waking state are superimposed on it just like a TV screen and a movie being displayed on it. Sleep is like the TV being turned off..dreams and the waking state is like a movie being displayed on the screen . This is what Ramana Maharshi and Robert Adams have taught .

Great analysis. Thanks for sharing.and thanks for bolding the James Al part . The simplicity of being sometimes might be uncomfortable. The ego goes "if there are no problems then let's invent imaginary problems ". The only caveat is there is no need to badmouth Leo.

I've been contemplating this recently and I wish to share this with you guys . Anything I come to know from the external world is prone to error and falsehood . It can never be trusted as an absolute truth.. Because of the very fact that it is derived from the outside world ..which automatically means it has been known by others and now delivered to you..but if it is not derived by you personally..how can you trust it ? Even if Leo or your Guru tells you something.. you should never trust it but you should validate it in your own direct experience..including this very advice from me right now..and this just goes on in a circle and becomes obsessive and meaningless. Like "this statement is false". I think it's a very nasty epistemic problem. This entanglement of everything . just the fact that obviously everything everywhere across all places..and in all dimensions or times or whatever ..everything is interconnected. Like for example you cannot separate the observer from the observed..Or this moment from the next moment . Etc . If you ask AI or Google about any question or information then you have to be skeptical ..because what the hell is the very origin of that information and how was it known at all ? Likewise you can't trust other people. Truth has to be derived personally. But aren't I creating a false duality here which is just circular and absurd? Because there cannot be a personal experience without an other experience..and the two are tied Togther. And if you push this inquiry further to the ultimate end you arrive at the conclusion that since self =other or at least interrelated then it doesn't matter whether you go through the work of discovering truth or whether your Guru spoon-fed you it . It's tricky.

@Hojo the mind is afraid of emptiness. I agree..and this is why once you sit to meditate thoughts go crazy ..because we are addicted to stimulation .we want to be doing something all the time ..and this is why I had insomnia issues because to sleep you are supposed to just lay there on the bed just relaxing and calming down..but I'm used to loud lifestyle like playing games and listening to rap music .also Caffeine and Cigarettes etc .all of this doesn't occur if we lived in nature without electronics..we would sleep at dusk. So I learned to finish all my busy activities during the day and just spend most of the night in activities which are relaxing and calming like reading a book or listening to jazz music or Piano etc .

@Hojo obviously not exclusively . You gotta move to drink and eat at the very least or you die .

Are you saying the fear of non-existence creates FOMO?

Huge problem. I can relate . This results from an undisciplined mind . The nature of the mind is to fantasise about all the good things you are missing out in life ..an undisciplined mind that is. I used to experience this a lot before I learned about methods of quieting the mind . As soon as you wake up in the morning the mind goes "dodododododododo" or "let's take a walk ".."let's hang out with my friends and maybe get drunk " .."let's hit on some chicks".."let's check social media ". These things are fun..but if you can't spend a whole day just sitting in home appreciating your food and comfort then you will never be happy . Leo is offering the opposite perspective above if you are highly ambitious person then you gotta do things ..but since you said it is overwhelming for you then I understand that in my life is pointless desire that only leads to disappointment and multiplication of itself .its like pouring gas on the fire ..it will only make it more blazing . So to get to the point If you're highly ambitious person then it's a good thing to make to-do lists and follow a busy productive routine but if it is disturbing your mental peace then start practicing meditation and doing nothing.

@Monster Energy are you yourself addicted to porn ?

The difference between having gay sex and having a sexual relationship with a child is mostly that the gay partners are both adults and mature and choosing consciously to participate in the relationship..whereas having sex with a child is rape ..mostly rape since a child has no interest in sex whatsoever. Is rape bad ? Nothing is bad objectively. But bad is Defined relative to subjective harm to the individual and society.

Yes it's bad and addictive. But it makes you feel good so that's why you do it .like drugs ..fast food..cigarettes etc.

Below is full texts quotes from Chatgpt about ontological nihilism and metaphysical nihilism. If you think metaphysical solipsism is crazy then you ain't seen nothing lol. I actually totally agree with the entire text and I think it is also obvious and non-debatable. And it's fascinating also to note that this aligned perfectly with Buddhism's worldview . Starting with ontological nihilism : "Ontological nihilism is a philosophical view that denies the existence of any kind of objective reality or that there is no inherent "being" or "substance" that defines existence in the traditional sense. It's a subset of nihilism that focuses specifically on the nature of being and existence itself. Here’s a more detailed breakdown: Ontology refers to the branch of philosophy that deals with the study of being, existence, and the categories of being. It explores questions like "What exists?" and "What does it mean for something to exist?" Nihilism is the broader philosophical stance that life lacks inherent meaning, purpose, or value. Nihilism can apply to ethics, knowledge, and metaphysics. So, ontological nihilism takes nihilism a step further by claiming that nothing truly exists in a substantial or enduring sense. There might be phenomena, objects, or experiences, but they have no permanent or intrinsic being. According to ontological nihilists, all entities are either illusory, fleeting, or not truly "existent" in the way we typically understand existence. Key Points: No Objective Existence: There is no objective, independent reality. Everything that we perceive as "existing" is either a construct of our minds or transient in nature. Denial of Substances or Entities: There's no underlying "substance" or "thing" that grounds all existence. The things we think of as "real" may not have an essence or intrinsic nature. Influence of Other Nihilistic Ideas: Ontological nihilism often overlaps with metaphysical nihilism (the idea that there may be nothing in existence at all) and epistemological nihilism (the idea that knowledge is impossible or meaningless). Examples: A radical version of ontological nihilism might argue that the universe itself, and everything in it, lacks any true essence. Things only exist temporarily or relative to human perception, but no one or no thing truly "is" in any objective, substantial sense. Philosophers like Husserl and Heidegger (to some degree) explored similar themes, though their work wasn’t strictly ontological nihilism. They focused on the way we perceive and experience existence, questioning whether it could be reduced to nothingness or if it always depends on perception. In summary, ontological nihilism is the belief that existence itself, as we conceive it, is not grounded in anything fundamental or permanent." I totally agree with all of that. 100% accurate description of reality as is . Moving on to metaphysical nihilism: "Metaphysical nihilism is a philosophical position that suggests that nothing exists in the most fundamental sense of the term. Unlike other forms of nihilism, which focus on the meaning or value of life, metaphysical nihilism specifically challenges the idea of the existence of any kind of substance, entity, or object in the universe, or at least the possibility of everything that exists being nothing at some level. At its core, metaphysical nihilism proposes that there may be no objects or entities that persist through time or have an inherent existence. This doesn't necessarily mean that things don't exist in a superficial, practical sense (like trees, rocks, or people), but that the totality of existence could be void of any enduring or fundamental things. In extreme versions of metaphysical nihilism, this position even suggests that the universe might not exist at all, or that it could just be a contingent, temporary structure without any essential being. Key Features of Metaphysical Nihilism: Denial of Fundamental Existence: Metaphysical nihilism denies that there is any fundamental, enduring substance that everything else is grounded in. For example, it rejects the idea of some basic "stuff" (like matter or energy) that everything is made of. Contingency of Objects: It holds that all objects or entities in the universe might be contingent, meaning they could either not have existed at all or could cease to exist without any fundamental reason. Essentially, there is nothing that requires the existence of particular objects or the universe itself. The Possibility of "No Existence": In its extreme form, metaphysical nihilism suggests that there might be no entities, no objects, no universe—just complete nothingness. Some versions suggest that the universe could have come into existence by chance or that it might vanish into non-existence, and this could be equally likely or even inevitable. Denial of Ontology: Metaphysical nihilism is closely related to ontological nihilism, but with a specific focus on the non-existence of all entities or substances, rather than just the denial of a particular kind of existence (e.g., rejecting the existence of essential "beings"). Variants of Metaphysical Nihilism: Strong Metaphysical Nihilism: This version argues that there is a total lack of existence, meaning that nothing exists at all—there is no universe, no objects, and no things in any sense. This is an extremely radical stance, but it is taken seriously by some philosophers, particularly in relation to questions about the ultimate fate of the universe (e.g., could the universe "cease to be"?). Weak Metaphysical Nihilism: This version might argue that individual objects or entities do not have any necessary or essential existence, but it doesn’t necessarily deny that the universe as a whole could exist. For example, it might suggest that objects are only contingent (they could exist, but they don’t have to), and that even though things may exist now, they could just as easily not have existed at all. Existential Nihilism (Not to be Confused with Metaphysical Nihilism): While metaphysical nihilism concerns the very essence of existence, existential nihilism is often more concerned with the meaning or purpose of existence. It suggests that, even if existence is real, it lacks inherent meaning, purpose, or value. Philosophical Roots: Leibniz: The 17th-century philosopher Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz raised questions about why the universe is the way it is, suggesting that the existence of the universe might be contingent. He proposed that things could be different, and perhaps nothing at all might exist. David Hume: In his skepticism about causality and necessity, David Hume questioned whether there is any necessary connection in the world, which aligns with the ideas in metaphysical nihilism about the contingent nature of existence. Contemporary Philosophers: More recently, philosophers like Peter van Inwagen and David Lewis have examined the implications of metaphysical nihilism through debates about the possibility of a "quantum vacuum" or the nature of possible worlds, where they consider whether nothingness could be a genuine possibility. Example of the Position: A classic formulation of metaphysical nihilism is the "nothingness" argument: Imagine a possible world in which nothing exists—no physical objects, no events, no time, no space, just pure nothingness. Metaphysical nihilism entertains the possibility that our universe could, in fact, be a contingent state, and there could easily be a possible world where nothing exists at all. This view is not necessarily about denying the existence of particular things (like trees or mountains), but rather about suggesting that existence, in the most absolute sense, is not necessary. Criticism: Challenge of Possibility: One criticism of metaphysical nihilism is the question of how nothing could be considered a "possibility" at all. Some argue that we cannot meaningfully talk about "nothing" because even the concept of "nothing" seems to imply some kind of something. Logical and Conceptual Problems: There are also challenges to the coherence of metaphysical nihilism. If nothing exists, then there wouldn’t be any possibility of there being a world where things could not exist. Some argue that non-existence might be an incoherent or impossible state to conceive. Conclusion: Metaphysical nihilism is a radical philosophical position that challenges our common understanding of existence by suggesting that nothing exists at the most fundamental level or that existence could be contingent, even unnecessary. While extreme in some versions, it has been influential in the history of philosophy, raising questions about the nature of existence, reality, and whether there is any essential substance or foundation to the universe." The only thing I disagree with is the idea that "nothing exists at all " or "there is no existence whatsoever ". This is totally wrong and false . There is obviously apparent existence..but like it's described above on all the other points like contingency..lack of substance or ultimate ground ..etc its all spot on. Please do read the two texts and let's discuss whether what's said is accurate or not ..hopefully without using AI lol.

@Natasha Tori Maru hey what's up ? 😂

Fair point.

Yes but on YouTube you talk to a camera and read comments from random Internet strangers . On the blog you share insights in written form. AND THAT'S IT. BUT On the forum you interact with the same people( mostly)everyday. And this should mean this forum is not for chit chatting(there is a section for that )Like when will we completey break the ice completey and take this forum to the next level and our communication with you to the next level ?