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That’s true but not always . In this context the conversation was that you are the one who said that you have “your spirituality “ ..and that in “your spirituality “ there is a room for both Ego(the finite ) and God (the infinite )..by saying “God creates thru the finite “. That reads false to me . God creates whatever it wants through pure Abracadabra magic because it’s omnipotent. Like a magician pulling a rabbit out of an empty fucking hat .Which means your claim that you understand what god is and how it creates is false in my opinion.

Explication is required.

Worship a woman . Gods temple for a man is a woman’s body. You should stop idealizing women but you should find one woman and idealize her..and worship her ..because you are a man ..which means you want a woman ..and you won’t get out of this ditch about women and ultimately transcend it and enjoy pursuing high consciousness stuff unless you satisfy your craving for love for and from a woman . And once you fulfill yourself totally regarding your craving for the opposite sex you will automatically transcend it .

I understand. It’s more accurate to say that there is no difference between empty space and the objects within it . Because what is empty space itself made out of ? What exactly is a hole or a gap ? On the other side as you suggested the objects are empty if you keep zooming. So the duality must collapse .

bon appétit. . I also enjoy eating and cooking while listening to podcasts and people just talking. Great opportunity for a meme material.

That must’ve taken the whole day ? That’s literally more than 12 hours ..I mean even Leo and Curt had to take pauses ..I can’t survive three hours without snacking on something .😂

You can say that but do you actually understand what god is and how it creates ?

I see . And so far what has been the answer for this problem in “your spirituality “ ?

I disagree. ego simply means the sense of I . The thing you take yourself to be . Couldn’t be more simple. At least in spirituality . It means other things in psychology. In a serious spiritual discipline..like if you joined a zen monastery you would be taught that this sense of I am a fixed permanent self that exists on its own separate from the rest of reality is simply an illusion. It doesn’t actually exist .literally so . My question to you is how exactly are you going to improve or help something which doesn’t even exist ?

@Joseph Maynor That’s a different Topic obviously. I’m speaking of the ego . Let’s not jump all over the place and focus on one thing at a time .

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I actually think there is no such thing as space . Space simply means the empty container of objects . In fact there is no container for objects ..it’s purely conceptual . Or you could say the duality must dissolve between objects and space containing them .

Thanks. If you want elaboration..I wasn’t just trying to sound flashy and edgy about it . The basics of spirituality is destroying the ego . It’s not about improving your ego . You said to Jane that she is very passive about her life ..well you have to make up your mind if you prioritize self improvement or spiritual work because these are not the same routes. My guru told me the same thing Osho is saying here ..that I can’t do proper spirituality without sacrificing myself.

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I’m not sure if this applies to everyone but it did for me . for anyone struggling with depression or thinking of suicide I find expression highly curative . Talk to someone you know and let it all out. Say everything. Don’t keep it pent up inside . That hurts more than death itself.

He obviously must give a diplomatic enough answer. You know that certain people on this community have committed suicide in the past and we don’t want this tragedy happening again . Obviously it’s a sensitive topic and Leo has to be careful not to beat you over the head with the truth . the truth is god doesn’t care about your suffering. God has bigger concerns than soothing the pain of a little speck of dust lost in infinite desert. He clearly stated that existentially speaking there is no ought and especially no negative value to suicide . He also said you can’t generalize it like that and say suicide is always a mistake . Obviously if you are in chronic incurable pain you are better off dead ..but not the case if you have some silly first world problem or something . It depends.

I’m not going to but because your comment was just a neutral statement..there was no question mark . And secondly you are either a man child or trying to kill time in the subway.

Silly question. There is no help for you . Spirituality isn’t what’s in it for me . It is supposed to prepare you for death. To die before you die as an ego and even as a body . In the end you are some rotten bones and food for worms. Find the real you. Come on.. at least handle the basics .

This is beautifully said .

No worries. I understand where you are coming from.

Dude what kind of conversation is this ? Please raise the quality of your communication.

@James123 well first of all you are the one who mentioned the Big Bang and you are the one who posted that picture above that’s how existence works without explaining what it means ..seems like some form of cosmology . I cited those physics theories not to suggest that science can ever give me the final answer because science is chasing its tail . In the two posts I stated clearly that the final answer is that existence is eternal . And what’s with before birth ? And why do you sound like you need to take a nap lol?😂

Everyone are familiar with the Big Bang theory. I even had a brief class about it in high school in geology class. But most people are not familiar with pre-big bang theories . There are actually some theories in modern physics that explain or at least attempt to explain where did the singularity came from . And that’s why scientific atheism is leading the score right now on religious creationism. There are few theories which physicists are studying : quantum loop gravity (the universe is eternally contracting and rebounding endlessly)..string theory ..and in quantum physics there is a theory that says at the very very fundamental level of reality there are things called fields of self-created particles. It literally says some particles arise out of nowhere for no reason (of course that’s a laymen simplifying from my part ). But my point is whichever way you want to slice it there must be something eternal and uncaused and just there since forever till forever .call it god or field or nothing or anything. That’s the only explanation for existence.