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I disagree. ego simply means the sense of I . The thing you take yourself to be . Couldn’t be more simple. At least in spirituality . It means other things in psychology. In a serious spiritual discipline..like if you joined a zen monastery you would be taught that this sense of I am a fixed permanent self that exists on its own separate from the rest of reality is simply an illusion. It doesn’t actually exist .literally so . My question to you is how exactly are you going to improve or help something which doesn’t even exist ?

@Joseph Maynor That’s a different Topic obviously. I’m speaking of the ego . Let’s not jump all over the place and focus on one thing at a time .

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I actually think there is no such thing as space . Space simply means the empty container of objects . In fact there is no container for objects ..it’s purely conceptual . Or you could say the duality must dissolve between objects and space containing them .

Thanks. If you want elaboration..I wasn’t just trying to sound flashy and edgy about it . The basics of spirituality is destroying the ego . It’s not about improving your ego . You said to Jane that she is very passive about her life ..well you have to make up your mind if you prioritize self improvement or spiritual work because these are not the same routes. My guru told me the same thing Osho is saying here ..that I can’t do proper spirituality without sacrificing myself.

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I’m not sure if this applies to everyone but it did for me . for anyone struggling with depression or thinking of suicide I find expression highly curative . Talk to someone you know and let it all out. Say everything. Don’t keep it pent up inside . That hurts more than death itself.

He obviously must give a diplomatic enough answer. You know that certain people on this community have committed suicide in the past and we don’t want this tragedy happening again . Obviously it’s a sensitive topic and Leo has to be careful not to beat you over the head with the truth . the truth is god doesn’t care about your suffering. God has bigger concerns than soothing the pain of a little speck of dust lost in infinite desert. He clearly stated that existentially speaking there is no ought and especially no negative value to suicide . He also said you can’t generalize it like that and say suicide is always a mistake . Obviously if you are in chronic incurable pain you are better off dead ..but not the case if you have some silly first world problem or something . It depends.

I’m not going to but because your comment was just a neutral statement..there was no question mark . And secondly you are either a man child or trying to kill time in the subway.

Silly question. There is no help for you . Spirituality isn’t what’s in it for me . It is supposed to prepare you for death. To die before you die as an ego and even as a body . In the end you are some rotten bones and food for worms. Find the real you. Come on.. at least handle the basics .

This is beautifully said .

No worries. I understand where you are coming from.

Dude what kind of conversation is this ? Please raise the quality of your communication.

@James123 well first of all you are the one who mentioned the Big Bang and you are the one who posted that picture above that’s how existence works without explaining what it means ..seems like some form of cosmology . I cited those physics theories not to suggest that science can ever give me the final answer because science is chasing its tail . In the two posts I stated clearly that the final answer is that existence is eternal . And what’s with before birth ? And why do you sound like you need to take a nap lol?😂

Everyone are familiar with the Big Bang theory. I even had a brief class about it in high school in geology class. But most people are not familiar with pre-big bang theories . There are actually some theories in modern physics that explain or at least attempt to explain where did the singularity came from . And that’s why scientific atheism is leading the score right now on religious creationism. There are few theories which physicists are studying : quantum loop gravity (the universe is eternally contracting and rebounding endlessly)..string theory ..and in quantum physics there is a theory that says at the very very fundamental level of reality there are things called fields of self-created particles. It literally says some particles arise out of nowhere for no reason (of course that’s a laymen simplifying from my part ). But my point is whichever way you want to slice it there must be something eternal and uncaused and just there since forever till forever .call it god or field or nothing or anything. That’s the only explanation for existence.

@James123 The way I understand the picture is all of the universe emerged from a dimensionless singularity ? There are two options for how did existence come about . Either existence emerged from nonexistence for literally no reason at all and here we are . But this one is simply impossible if you contemplate it . Even if you are so skeptical and open minded and trying to think from ground zero without assumptions. Existence can’t come from nonexistence for no reason ..if you accept that it can you can’t use any form reasoning for anything . It’s complete philosophical nihilism and sophistry. If you accept that you can accept anything even if it contradicts your direct reality. the only explanation is existence came from existence. Which means existence is eternal and uncreated . That’s the only explanation. Since existence exists right now then it must be eternal because we just established it can’t be created from nothing . You can avoid calling that eternal existence “god” If you don’t like that word because of religious connotation as a bearded man in the clouds .

@Joseph Maynor fair enough . Have a nice day/evening .

Yes exactly. If you don’t think or interpret your experience you will just find events happening . You have to use your intellect to make a conclusion based on what you’re experiencing.

exactly that . What’s your point? I will flip the script on you for you . Riddle me this : for your entire have quenched your thirst through drinking water. How do you know that next time you drink it won’t just quench you? just to be clear ..obviously this world seems to follow static rules. But what keeps those laws constant ? Please contemplate seriously .

@Joseph Maynor I explained it to the best of my ability. That’s simply it . In the physical world an event follows and event following an event . The idea of causation isn’t in actuality . It’s in your head .

Yes it’s a huge philosophical conundrum. Simply put with an example: you are thirsty . So you drink a glass of water . Then you feel hydrated and refreshed. You then conclude the quenching of thirst happens because you drank the water. what ACTUALLY happened in physical reality is drinking the water followed by the feeling of satisfaction. Now ..”quenching of thirst was created by drinking “ . This statement is NOT found in the physical world . It’s a mental abstraction. What you have in the actual world is thirst +drinking + quenching. An event following another event . “Causation “ is NOT found in the world . It’s a mental interpretation.

Please don’t troll him. He is sharing something that feels genuine to him in the moment. Obviously some kind of flicker switch or insight dawned on him and he thinks he grasped something beyond the mundane stuff you suggest. This is the spirituality and awakening section.. if you’re after ”fucking hot woman “ is essentially thinking with your dick . There is a section for this. What OP is expressing is what Leo repeats day and night regarding what the highest degree of awakening is. Btw when I say “thinking with your dick” I’m not disrespecting you..it’s just I notice you are obsessed with dating and with your lay count . By all means pursue your authentic desires shamelessly..just don’t expect different human beings in different phases of lives share the same priorities as you.

Of course he was born to be the best player ever without a doubt . It’s a gift from god .