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I know that fundamentally these kinds of inquiries are fruitless . Yet I don't consider them to be a waste of time. I'm a big believer in "mental pleasure ". Philosophising to me gives me a high state ? Existence is not a matter of hypothetical possibility. Existence is necessarily at least as real as you and me. We cannot deny this. So all attributes of Existence are necessarily at least as real as you and me. So an Omnipresent thing/being (Existence) is necessarily at least as real as you and me. To reject Existence as being Omnipresent, Infinite, and Perfect, leads to semantical inconsistencies as highlighted in the OP. Existence is necessarily at least as real as you and me. Unicorns are not necessarily at least as real as you and me. But given the infiniteness of Existence, unicorns can come to be at least as real as you and me. Again the reason why x is hypothetically impossible (semantically inconsistent) is because Existence does not accommodate it. If x is semantically consistent, then necessarily, Existence accommodates it. As for my direct experience..it's both infinte and finite at the same time . Its finite in the sense that I can't fly or perform miracles. But it's infinite in the sense that if I tried to catch the beginning and ending of my experience (whether in terms of space or in terms of time) I can't actually find a clear boundary.

I watched that video about strange loops .one of Leo's best videos . However, I'm curious to understand how do you link the concert of strange loops with what I call logical impossibilities? Because you only have two choices: You either believe Existence to be finite, or you believe it to be Infinite. There are no other possible beliefs about Existence. Existence being finite is clearly contradictory. It amounts to the contradiction of existence coming from non-existence, or non-existence having existed, or non-existence existing. A finite existence is contradictory, therefore Existence is infinite. Yet how can it be infinite If something like a square circle cannot exist in it ? You see there is a problem with both perspectives (whether existence is finite or infinite ).

I remember Leo saying in one of his posts in the forum a time ago "infinity is the impossible made possible ". I think it is contradictory for a finite existence to have an infinite amount of potential. So a finite existence will not account for why have access to an infinity of things. Though existence being absolutely infinite it must contain absolutely everything. The point that is tripping me up ..is whether infinity contains everything that's possible..or EVERYTHING. period (meaning even what we consider with our limited minds to be impossible or unimaginable).

I guess I get this . When we are judging something as logically impossible we are using our finite mind's capacity to imagine. And that definitely has limitations. We can't imagine anything we want .our imagination is actually limited by what we already have experienced in the real world. But to infinite consciousness itself prior to the creation of this particular universe including our limited imagination..to that there Is no constraints whatsoever. It can create a square that is also a circle. If we deny that then we are basically claiming that reality is finite .but that can't be .therefore logical impossibilities are paradoxially possible with absolute infinity.

So you are saying infinity does include what we call logical impossibilities because its our finite minds that's ascribing the notion of "impossibility " onto a concept or a phenomenon? Or that God has infinite attributes and none of those attributes is impossible for God. God defines what is possible and what is impossible. If God transcends His attributes then His attributes do not define Him. If God is defined by His attributes then it is finite. And since God is infinite, it doesn't depend on its attributes like logical possibilities? ⁷

Kant was wrong about noumena. There is no external objective world behind the scenes. All you have is the first order. The field of consciousness that you are experiencing right now .that's all that exists . I think you have to look at this in reverse, otherwise, it will result in an inconsistency in meaning/semantics. Here's why: 1) If x can happen, then x is hypothetically possible. If x can't happen, then x is hypothetically impossible. Agreed? 2) x can only happen if the potential exists for it to happen. If the potential does not exist for it to happen, then x is not hypothetically possible. It is hypothetically impossible. Agreed? 3) A finite existence cannot make all xs possible because a finite existence's potential, is finite. So, either we say: 3a) Not all possibilities are truly possible (which is as semantically inconsistent as saying not all triangles are truly triangles) 3b) All possibilities truly are possible (which is semantically consistent) Summary: There are no alternatives to 3a and 3b. 3a is contradictory. 3b semantically/logically requires Existence to be Infinite. Note that there is a difference between an unknown and a possibility which I believe is often grossly overlooked .I will attempt to highlight this: Whether or not there are unicorns in our galaxy is an unknown. Whether there will be unicorns in the future of our galaxy, again is unknown. Whether there can be unicorns in the future, is certainly yes. It is not an unknown. Whether or not beings with a 10th sense can exist in Existence, is an unknown. As in we don't know if Existence has the potential to produce a being with a 10th sense. So when i say it's possible that a being with a 10th sense is possible, I am in fact saying, 'it's unknown whether Existence is such that a being with a 10th sense is possible or not.

Well ..you are not a human and a human at the same time . I like to distuingh between the false self (the human self ) and the true Self (the god self ). everyone is divided into these two selves, and people develop a false self to protect their inner, more vulnerable true self. The true self refers to a sense of self based on authentic experience, and the feeling of being truly present and alive. The false self is a defensive facade .. behind which the person can feel empty, it’s behaviours being learnt and controlled rather than spontaneous and genuine. The process of developing a false self begins at a very young age. As babies, we are at our truest. We cry, laugh and react in a way that is wholly authentic to our needs.. we are simply being. healthy development requires us to fully experience this time when we have no concern for the feelings and opinions of those looking after us. However, if as babies we are denied this opportunity to be ourselves, we learn to modify our impulses in a bid to receive the love we crave, and start constructing a false self.

Yes you are partially correct . Enlightenment cannot be put onto simplified ,black and white ,categories. In the end you have to drop everything to become enlightened. And that includes the distinction between mystical or super natural..and physical or natural (I guess that's what you mean by the term "medical ". The bottom line is that..Enlightenment is beyond words. Do not concern yourself with the words so much. Words are like signs along the road. some point in the right direction. Some do not. But in either case, you don’t want to get stuck somewhere, staring at the signs. Words are descriptive. enlightenment is experience. The second requirement for enlightenment is is knowing you can alter your consciousness. Knowing you can alter your state of mind. Knowing you can..reprogram yourself. Your ‘self.’ The first requirement is a dissatisfaction with your present state of ‘self.’ This you have shown by inquiring about ‘enlightenment.’ Your ‘self’ is really just the wetware program in your brain. It can be changed, dramatically and in important and desirable ways. So now it comes down to developing and practicing the techniques to do this. Also required. Though many desirable changes can be achieved without too much difficulty.

No, there is a fine line between enlightenment and mental disorders. What you are describing probably isn't esoteric or mystical; yet it isn't..strictly speaking..llness. in a way, that if you had been born in the East, your predicament would be viewed differently. You might have been labeled "God mad," which sounds more tolerant. But in India, at least, the God mad are let loose on the streets and lead quite aimless and chaotic lives on the fringes of society. I am sympathetic with your desire to view your illuminated states as psychiatric rather than spiritual. But it's simply a false outlook

I do have the same concerns as yours. They usually call it the problem of evil I call it “The Infinite Options Problem,” and it’s goes like this: If God is all powerful, then by definition he could have created any of an infinite variety of universes. If he is all knowing, then by definition he was aware of everything about all those universes. Some of those infinite universes had to have included all possible variations on this universe, including all those where individuals made different choices from people in this universe (that must be true if it's possible for people to make choices, regardless of whether free will exists or not). At least one of those universes had to have been one where Lucifer never rebelled against God, where Adam and Eve never disobeyed God, where mankind never became wicked, and nobody would ever need to be sent to hell. God could have chosen one of those universes to create, but he didn't. He chose this one, which means he DELIBERATELY engineered a universe where he knew everything would go wrong.

I didn't understand anything. Could you please try to summarise your point in a more clear and coherent way ?

I find it useful to distinguish beetween Free Will and Will. Free Will I would define as total freedom to choose any one out of infinite possiblities. This is obviously false within the context of this finite dream. But Will is a much more subtle notion. I would define it as consciousness' intrinsic capacity to influence the unfolding of the dream. This capacity has levels and it's in direct proportion to it's wakefulness. The more awake, the more conscious control. What you are debunking here is your own idea about how Will works, and it's loaded with many assumptions. Will does not depend upon the existance of an individual self. Will has nothing to do with your capacity to guess your future thoughts. And it's not some gross mechanical process in which you are somehow displayed many options out of which you pick one. It's way more direct and magical than that. Realizing Will is more of a mystical experience than an intellectual exercise.

I agree .but we are very much stuck in the ego perspective .we don't live life like indifferent enlightened saints like ramana maharshi who could be dying from cancer and still be blissed out . So the ratio of pleasure and pain does matter as long as one is not enlightened.

Oh boy !. This one was a killer to me at the time it was released. I still listen to it from time to time . The main idea of the video is that YOU as GOD will experience EVERYTHING. Literally every single experience that can ever possibly exist ..has existed..or wil exist . You will experience it all . So you will experience all kinds of human suffering possible . The Holocaust..sickness..diseases..anguish.. depression..suicide..anxiety ..etc But of course it has the positive side of it .you will experience every orgasm that has ever been orgasmed lol. You will experience every delicious meal .every fun movie .every beautiful piece of music .every first kiss .every romantic relationship . Every drug high.etc etc .... This is all nice and good .but I don't think it's a fair deal .even if we assume that the amount of pleasure will equal exactly the amount of pain...Still it would be better if reality didn't exist at all rather than it being half good and half bad . So that's about me . What about you?

The fundamental reason you are not satisfied in your life and you are suffering is because you are an infinite being trying to find fulfilment and happiness in finite forms. Whether it be money ,sex, success, fame etc . You will never be truly Satisfied by these means .simply because they are finite .no matter how good they are ..they are still finite. Which makes them not good enough. Even if you have millions in your bank account ..you will want more cash .even if you had one million orgasms with million different women. You will want to sleep with more women . When does it end? Of course it doesn't. You've engaged in your desires enough times to fill one zillion universes .and its still not enough. That's why you are still incarnated in human form. If you truly transcended all desires ,you will become formless .you transcend your desire for money ,For sex ,for success, for social interactions ..and then eventually transcend your desire for food and water and even breathing .and then you ultimately transcend your desire for the entire formed realm and you cease to exist /basically die from the high levels of consciousness that you've acquired and you rest eternally in formless heaven . But of course that's the last thing you want to do ..you want to keep indulging in desires for another million lifetimes. And you shouldn't put yourself down for it .I'm In the same boat as you are .all you can do is hope for that radical shift of perspective to happen. To get serious about one thing :do you actually want TRUE happiness or do you want to keep suffering endlessly? You might ask why is desire the cause of suffering? It's simply because attachments are transient and loss is inevitable. Thus suffering will necessarily follow.

@Loba I have a theory. Try to recollect your earliest childhood memory. Go back as much as you can. Remember the first moment when you were in a state of complete consciousness. You just had a body, a mind of your own, all the environment surrounding you just seemed to spring out of existence, right? It was like opening your eyes after a nap and everything materialized out of thin air, right? You were aware of your thoughts, your mind, your body, your surroundings. Well, I guess after we die, we would just wake up in a different place, a different body, a different mind. But that's not the catch. You would not be able to tell the difference because you don't remember about your previous life. It would be like you were just born into this. You would feel normal. You might have been a fearsome emperor in the past, whereas you could be a common clerk in the present life, struggling to make ends meet. You would never know. But that's just one possibility. Out of infinity. So what exactly determines what or where you go after you die ? It's certainly not pure randomness and mere chance..there is laws to this existence. What and how you live this life right here right now affects what will happen in the "next life ". And our minds determine that . If you are familiar with placebo effect .it works the same way .whatever your mind holds and firmly believe becomes real for you. So if that's what you imagine will happen when you die .then that's what's gonna happen .and there is no contradiction between what I'm saying and what you're saying .

Since reality is imaginary (everything is your imagnitive mind's product. I can't really explain this here ..I did it before in previous threads of mine )Then whatever you imagine becomes real for you . So if you imagine and firmly believe that after death you will go to hell ..you will. And if you imagine that after death you go to a paradise..you will. And if you imagine and believe that after death you will reincarnate as a new human being (or an animal)..you will. And if you imagine and believe that after death its just pure nothingness forever..then that's what's gonna happen. So take responsibility for what you are imagining/believing . "Be careful what you wish for " as they say . I can't really explain how I came to this conclusion..if you understand that the entire universe is something you are imagining (just like how you imagine the universe in your dreams ) then you are creating whatever experience you are having . So ,you die every night when you fall asleep and then you imagine a dream world .or sometimes you don't dream at all and it's pitch black . Well..that's the case with physical death as well..you imagine what comes next . This is why it's important to explore your subconscious mind and purfiy it. Because it created reality .you need to align the subconscious mind with the conscious mind to work together in harmony to create the next dream. Now I can't deny it ..this is somewhat speculative perspective of mine. So take it with a grain of salt and validate for yourself in your own direct experience and awakening work.

1). No. When I say I'm god .I mean I'm the Creator of the entire universe. Not just that but I am the whole universe itself. All avatars and dieites that people have worshiped since the dawn of time (krishna, shiva ,zeus, Allah,flying spaghetti monster etc)are false gods .the only God is YOU. Which is of course ME . 2).I know that the entire universe will die when I die . Nothing will remain .just like in a dream at night. When you die.you wake up and the other characters disappear. 3). I know that I'm not just "in " existence. I'm existence itself. 4). I didn't say that my consciousness will disappear when I die. I clearly stated that im Afraid of ending up in hell realm after death .even though following my own advice..I should be careful what I believe because my mind creates reality

I personally believe that after death I will end up in a hell realm. I can't challenge that belief. I firmly believe that reality is fundamentally evil . And that's what's screwing up my whole life . There is no escaping infinity. If reality is absolutely infinite (which is the only way reality could exist at all ). Then you must experience EVERYTHING. And if you dream up hell..you can mateilize it . About enlightenment, I think enlightenment is not an experience. It's not a state .its not "god realization ". Etc this is according to the Buddhist teaching. Sitting down under a tree, the Buddha vowed to remain there until he realized the truth. After a night of deep meditation, his Enlightenment came at dawn, and he was thereafter known as the Buddha, the "Awakened One." It was simply him recognising some fundamental truths (the truth of no self ..the truth of emptiness..and the truth of the relationship between desire and suffering). So according to Buddhism there is no such thing as God. Enlightenment is something totally different. But if you ask me I disagree with that . Buddhism is sort of atheistic nihilistic religion . I think the highest Enlightenment is recognising absolute solipsism and that you are God imagining the entire reality. And then you take full responsibility for creating your reality . And that's what I'm failing to do .and that's why I'm filled with pessimism about my own death. If you have some insight that can help me change my perspective. Then I will appreciate it .

So Do you believe that that's what awaits you after death?

I suck at socializing.im shy ,introverted and insecure . It’s hard to push myself to go start a conversation with anyone and when I’m in a conversation it’s really awkward and I don’t know what to say. like at university, I want to start a conversation with other students but it’s really difficult to actually get myself to and when they come up and talk to me I dont ever know how to talk to them or what to say.. nowadays we all have one thing in common (unfortunately) . we all live in this crazy time of pandemic and shit .I find that people generaly like being asked about their feelings during this times. For instance, I just recently met some people on my college. I asked them about how they feel about online classes and their response was good. I feel like it was a good starting point. I need a life coach. Can you coach me Leo? Can we talk to each other outside the forum? (of course I will pay you). I'm at a very confused period of my life .its like I have a mid life crisis. I need someone to guide me.

@Leo Gura no video for a month now ? Also you are not as active here as you usually used to be ? Hope everything is going alright with ya .

Yeah .all his videos with the word "god " In the title are bombs . This one too takes you deeper down the rabbit whole of solipsism: Yeah his stuff is definitely not for the normies .the metaphysical skull-fuck that you get from Leo's videos are irreversible

What eternal unmoving moment you are talking about ? Are you living in the same reality as us ? Everything is constantly changing. Time is ticking. And you only got so much left .so you better take responsibility for the thoughts you feed your mind . If that's what you believe will happen..then that's what will happen .because your thoughts create reality .don't underestimate the power of thoughts and beliefs. I'm telling you literally whatever you imagine that follows death. Is what's gonna happen. Well,I will have to aske you what do you mean by enlightenment exactly? This word has been so overused to the point no one knows what the fuck it means anymore. Same thing with words like "love " or "happiness ".so I ask you to define the term first . Yes .what was your state before you were born ? You were completely formless. Then magic ? happend ..God said "let there be light " and here you are . To think that you will end up in a black blank void after death is improbable to me. Because here you are .you exist .you were born once .why not born again? And again? And a gain ? To infinity....Well you get your answers.

Thanks to everyone who participated in this thread trying to help me .I sincerely appreciate it .however It's too much replies and too much text that I am unable to respond to all of them. All I will say I just came home from the main mall in my city. I approached two girls..one told me "leave Me alone or I will call the security ". The other girl was more open ..even though she also rejected me .but she took my phone number .and I don't know if she will call me or not . So just reporting how its going with me recently. Thanks again .