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Yes .also people like Jim Newman..Tony Parsons..Bentinho Massaro etc . They all use the word "enlightenment ". Leo is the only spiritual teacher I'm aware of who calls it "God realization ". You can't abide in a nondual state forever .simply because reality doesn't know stillness .it's constantly changing. So enlightenment is realizing there is no need for literally anything. Abiding or otherwise. You can’t sustain a state. You can’t sustain any state..because it is the nature of states that they come and go. They emerge..and they pass. You are a human aren’t you? Do you have to sustain the state of being a human? Probably not,..because being human is not a state ..it is what you are. When you become non-duality then you will no longer have to sustain it..any more than you have to sustain your humanity now. Non-duality will not be a state.. it will be what you are. Yes I honestly think he is delusional. All these definition and different facets of awakening...I think he is getting so obsessed with figuring the shit out of reality .which is basically impossible. Reality will forever remain unknowable. Most fears to question your enlightenment is bs…. Because questioning it means all ones cultural background ..beliefs . respect ..hope including goal of permanence is challenged. I would say ..when one “gets it” that impermanence is the security of beingness..he is not this identity he thinks himself to be … He is only bounded by the mind and the idea of enlightenment gets the whole. no desire ..no hope .. no grief ..no pain follows that one. Interesting .You’re playing a cool role in a movie but it’s not going the way you like it. So you start to push the envelope and see if you can change how the movie is playing out. You can’t. So get you pissed off and start to inquire what the Truth is. Then through no cause or result of anything “you do” (because you d.on’t exist and there is no do-er) enlightenment happens through you and there it is. Non-duality does not need to be sustained…it is always the case. You are always alone…for there is no other. There is only the Self. All is always well.?? you caused it to yourself. it is your duty to lay your ego aside..and face the problems in order to grow as a human being (which can be consiered clearing karma). Idk what you talking about lol

Lol You listen to too much Mooji and Rupert Spira . It isn’t a state to aspire to. It is a moment of revelation: “Be still and know that I am God.” You make it another thing to achieve. Or to abide. There’s nothing to achieve. You are life.. I am life.. s/he is life… Life is. God is. Who is the one who desires to become something.. as though he is separate from what is/life?

Agreed. But it can get tricky .because people will hear that and then think that "happiness " is snorting Cocaine from a hooker's tits .happiness is our natural state. Not found in exciting experiences. Although there is nothing wrong with having fun. But pleasure is simply different from happiness. Yes it's the typical no self realisation. I realized that the people here and especially Leo are kinda shiting on this aspect of enlightenment because its not "the highest ". And I agree .there is a lot more to become conscious of than merely to recognize there is no separate self and duality is illusory . But honestly I can't speak about God realization or omniscience etc because honestly I have zero experience of them .so that is why I said In OP it's not resonating with me instead of calling it downright bullshit. Do you think "Truth "points to the same thing as "Happiness "?

@Enlightement OK thanks for your opinion. i will contemplate more.

Didn't say otherwise . There are no "Illusions " .the word itself refers to something that doesn't exist . Everything is real .even a dream or a drug-induced hallucination is real . If reality appears to be finite .then it's finite .if reality appears to be infinite ..then it's infinite . There is nothing that needs to happen .forgetting a glimpse that you had in the past is a necessary part of infinity . Its like not appreciating the black color in the Mona Lisa's hair..without realizing that every little detail is necessary ?.

To some degree. I'm conscious of pretty amazing stuff . But I still haven't achieved full on Buddhahood nirvanic bliss 24/7.

Everyone in my fucking college are blabbering about this stupid GPT thing. I think AI in general is purported to be greater than it really is. the media is trying to make it out to be like in science fiction movies ..when it is not. Just tell me if I'm correct . .is it the politics of fear ? Are they trying to make out that "they "or others ( Russians) will have control of our lives potentially leading to our destruction? I just don't get what the fuss is about . . Computers already have AI search engines.. and search providers already watch everything we do for advertising purposes. Surely the police, intelligence agencies and the military will also be using the same AI to collect data. For me it is all about control..we will have to watch everything we say and do. ...and that isn’t any kind of freedom.

@Michael569 I see . Enjoy your presidency of the health section. I just wanted to see you talking about politics or sex or consciousness or anything other than health stuff .because you are truly a genius in that field. So I'm curious if you have the same knowledge in other kind of topics as well.. No .I just meant its practical topic .and you are a practical oreinented dude . You don't like fluffy spiritual mumbo-jumbo

I think the future of AI will be far more mundane than the media would have people believe. we can't downplay the effects AI will have on society because it's simply unknowable. . If humans are replaced by AI, who are the corporate administrators going to sell their goods and services to in order to recoup their investment in AI?

Stop saying "It's " when it should be "is".

@Michael569 yeah that's suitable for you . You only post on the nutrition subforum and the life purpose subforum. Just wondering..do you have any philosophical interests? Like questions about existence and such? I never saw you commenting on the spirtualiy section. You show a deep knowledge when it comes to health and nutrition (because that's your field). Why don't you just try and engage in other subforums than the health section?

@Yimpa @Sempiternity lol im just teasing Leo. I really missed his videos. I think probably it will be about more practical stuff than philosophical.

Yay! Leo rambling out about metaphysical mumbo-jumbo that no human has ever reached for 3 hours straight. New level of awakening that contradicts his older episodes ? I certainly missed that .

@Holykael What gets you out of bed in the morning? What's the point? What's the motivation? What is there to look forward to? Why? What is stopping you from just not getting out of bed? “The truth is none of it matters and the truth is it all matters tremendously. It’s a wonder any of us ever get out of bed at all. And yet, we get out of bed.” - Bojack Horseman

Do "you " have free will ? It all depends on what do we mean by "you ". It's all dependent on your self-definition . If you identify as the human body ..then certainly you have a tiny portion of will . You can't fly. You can't wish a million bucks into existence etc. And some spiritual schools claim that you as an ego..or as a separate self have ZERO control over your life .over anything basically. And it's easy to prove if you tried to think of what wil be the next thought in your mind lol . Or if I told you to not think of a red cat (immediately an image of a red cat appears in your mind ). So does that mean you have no free will ? Well the answer is : YES &NO! If you define yourself as this human being..then surely you have limited free will. However,..if you define yourself as the entire universe..then everything that happens ..is your own will . You are like a movie writer and actor simultaneously. You as the author have predestined everything from the get go ..not a single atom moves by chance ..its all Your will . But you as an actor only have the power to act out as what's being predestined. So when you click on this thread..you actually have predestined this to happen from the start of infinity (so to speak) but you as the human didn't have a choice . This video of leo explains it perfectly. Any questions?

False. Its only because its infinite..that it can be downright any fucking thing it wants . Free will =infinity . Infinity is synonymous with freedom.

Because god is everything. And is infinite. Therefore his will is infinite. There is nothing outside of God to tell it how it should be .God is the ultimate existential authority.

1-well I'm a human being .I'm a sentient creature. Therefore I possess awareness. Are you trying to say that it's backwards? That "I" is a thought that appears inside awareness? 2-what about the body ? 3-where Is this one awareness?

Could you elaborate on this please?

No .there are no exceptions. It's all or nothing . You either have zero control over your life including everything even meditation. Or you have 100% control over everything. What I'm suggesting is that BOTH are true. Depending on your self-definition. Did you listen to Leo's clip?

It's called masturbation.

Amen ?

Yup. You have preordained everything from the start and designed it to be a perfectly deceiving existence. To appear as a weak little human who can't control his genitals lol. And when you finally meet God ..it will all make perfect sense But if you let go of All misidentification with being a finite human you will be like a drop that dissolves in the ocean . I'd say you can't let go of false identity and still maintain a human life .idk maybe folks like Jesus or Ramana Maharshi can do it. You can and will make all the choices in life. But like i said not the human you . The god you . I agree that as a mere body mind you can't control what is even gonna pop in your mind next second. Buy you as God have known that and created that from the very beginning Watch the video.

Enjoy! But I simply disagree.

Its because Most people are materialists . they believe in an objective external world of independently existing objects separate from themselves that they can passively perceive using their brains. However, serious thinkers over the last century have realized that materialism doesn't make sense. Consciousness is fundamental. No brains or neurons have anything to do with it .