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To assume you have no ego and are unconditioned...is ..a red flag ?

Why ?

Which is why I live alone and only visit my family here and there . I mean they are totally lost in the circus of life and I'm drifting in Nirvana with Buddha or Smth lol..the communication between me and them has devolved to very low levels.its just we are not clicking anymore ..it doesn't work the bottom line is they are a bunch of idiots Idc about their human bullshit. It's like 2026 so common lol. ..isolation is required for classy minds and deep souls . 😋

@Majed Simple..because people are different. That's literally it. How is Elon Musk's kids going to care about the same things as a homeless kid in a africa exactly?

No offence but gross misunderstanding of the word nihilism. It has nothing to do with negativity or depression or anything like that. I know you're like "What?!"..common misunderstanding. The most mainstream notion of nihilism in Western philosophy and literature is just circling around the idea that life is meaningless...not that life is evil or bad. No negativity ..just Meaninglessness.

Honestly not in the cards. Just undoable. Obviously you can't just get away with posting whatever the fuck you want . Please present something more reasonable.

@Natasha Tori Maru yeah just don't lock this thread

Sorry to hear . Tell her that her mother didn't really die. Just the body died .the body is only for a short time .its not your home . As the story goes Ramana Maharshi's awakening experience happened when he realized "oh wow! One day I'm gonna die ". Then he lied on the floor and said "OK this body is now dead. Soon it will be carried to the grave . But I'm not this body .therefore who am I?". I don't recall the entire story ..but the point is we are way more than a mere body . We are the eternal essence of existence itself. If I exist then I'm existence. I can't die. There is no where to go .nothing bad can happen to you .nothing can touch you. Maybe I'm speaking things bigger than me but since you posted this in the spirituality section so I hope you and your friend find peace.

@Leo Gura 🙏.

It's called dynamic meditation.

Kinda Osho's Ashram style? Where we are allowed to dance scream cry and fuck ?

OK. I just want to hear multiple perspectives. I Don't wish for absolutist type of answers .I get what you are trying to say though . If you want.. move topic to spirituality section.

I'm personally convinced of everything in the definition except the point that existence itself is actually non-existence..obviously nonsense. The rest is undeniably true. I dare you refute a single point. Pretty sure I've heard you say all these things yourself ad nauseam. Nobody is talking about God now.

Who said it can't be framed ? It's just the stance of denying any inherent existence to anything at hand .so .. Moral Nihilism: there are no objective morals or rights vs wrongs . Existential Nihilism: there is no inherent meaning or purpose to existence. Epistemological Nihilism: knowledge Is impossible. We can't know anything for sure. Ontological Nihilism: Nothing substantial exists. Metaphysical Nihilism: Nothing at all exists..substantial or otherwise. Like that..

Sure . I'm not discussing how your understanding of God intersects with these philosophical schools..I'm discussing them on their own and whether they are true or not .

@Leo GuraYou define God as Existence itself ..also Infinity ..Nothingness..Love..Absolute Truth. Ontological and metaphysical nihilism focus on the "Nothingness " aspect more . If you meant to say they are not wrong but just not holistic or missing other aspects then I do agree .

That's not funny .

Where would it escape to ?

You are repeating the same question. There can be infinite things but they are ultimately still God and still united and still one. A lizard appears distinct from the moon.. So we have two appearances that are still one. If you accept the premise that at the most fundamental level of reality there is one thing..then it follows that there can never ever be any "real others" to that one thing .

From Where would God come up with those others ? What is the clay which God creates things with ? Does he pull things out of his ass ? Well then they are still him. Does he pull them out of thin air? But where did the thin air come from if not from God? Exactly.

Because everything is the Self . There is no solution to this if you want to speak logically. All the animals ..humans..creatures..planets ..other universes..other minds ..etc are the same self. There just isn't any other option. Everything is the self ..and everything is happening within the self .if there was no self There would be nothing from the manifest world..Evident by when you are asleep there is literally no universe . Not sure about the omnipotent thing to be honest .it creates logical paradoxes like the set of all sets and breaking the law of non contradiction etc.

I was suicidal in a serious way in the past and the only thing that stopped me is precisely the "weighing of options". You are not gonna decide the last moment..you gonna rush into it unconsciously. If you gonna stand there at the edge of a cliff and logic with yourself about potential scenarios of afterlife and the fact that this life at least is known and understood to some degree whereas after death is completely and utterly unknown..then you literally can't do it . Unless it's nonstop chronic pain like a serious injury then if the intensity of the suffering is not more powerful than the fear of the unknown then you won't do it . People think they can suicide because of philosophical reasons and reading people like Emil Cioran or Albert Camus..that's a childish fantasy. I think everyone has the right to die peacefully with assistant suicide which is painless. It's their own right. Then again what we do want is to live in peace ..not die in peace. But sometimes death seems more peaceful than life and sometimes the opposite.

"Ego Submission " is the key word . It's as if you are unconscious or drunk or the like ..then it's easy to decide to "go" in a split second without second thought. Kinda like to jump off a plane skydiving you gotta decide without thinking.

Suicide means you are suffering..nothing could be more obvious. We don't actually want to die..that's not the default of humans .but the equation is :unbearable suffering +zero hope or alternative soultion in sight = Suicide. Yes ..most Eastern religions say if you die by killing yourself you will reincarnate in a lesser life form like an animal or insect.. .and Abrahamic religions say if you kill yourself you will go to hell. I feel like there is some truth to it . If not..then why does it not feel right?

I think that's a great way of articulating the problem. My guru told me "any answer you get from the outside is false.look within ". Isn't that itself an outside authority telling me what is true and what is false ?