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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Of course.. solidity is actually transient .it is an illusion and isn't actually happening. But be just because its an illusion does not mean it does not exist. it does and doesn't exist at the same time Have you been in a state of deep realization that transition is a dream?..that the past events leading up to present events leading up to future events isn't actually happening? its just pretending to..yet if that transition(which is a dream) stops dreaming a graceful transition.. and starts dreaming up chaos.. no matter how much you realize its a dream..you'll freak the fuck out. I should have Added a disclaimer in my OP that reading this this might have some negative effects on mentally unstable people. It's also sad that people seek "the absolute " only when shit hits the fan ...and not out of genuine curiosity or philosophical instinct. Only when they suffer deeply they begin looking for something else other than what this world offers. You know nothing about death. You haven't died yet ..therefore anything you say about death is conjecture. Imagine you're at the hospital and all of a sudden you forget what a hospital is.. who everyone is etc. You've even forgotten that a hospital is a place to get better..you've forgotten that you're looking at infinity through a HUMAN finite mind..it could be a table..cat finite mind. Why are you human? Is there any explaining of what is happening right now? -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No one knows anything about anything. Trust me on that one . -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Relative means its only true with respect to certain factors .it's only partially true . Absolute means its true under all conditions and doesn't change . So relative to there being a blue rock orbiting around the sun with 8 billion human beings living on it ..there are "people " or "selves " like "you" and "me ". If you ask me to point to it ..I would just point to the physical body .that's what defines "you ". But from the absolute perspective these boundaries get dissolved and all that is left is a sea of consciousness without divisions. -
First of all.. We have to be honest about the world we live in. It’s full of good.. but it’s also full of evil. All spiritual traditions and religions claim that God is good..yet the world is full of all kinds of evil. We don’t have to look too far for examples.. just flip on the news..Rape.. torture..crippling.. viruses.. car accidents.. terrorist attacks.. starvation..abuse.. slaughter.and the list goes on and on . let’s just be honest: All of these things are evil. They’re not just someone paying back karma from a past life.. they’re not just random events happening to random people.. they’re not some cosmic balancing act of yin and yang. They’re evil shit . So..how could God which is supposed to be unconditionally loving allow for evil ? Here's my best try : Evil can only exist if good exists . Otherwise we wouldn't know what is good or what is evil . And Good can only exist if God exists. He is the embodiment of pure goodness.. so in order for evil to exist God has to exist. Are you following this ? If God does not exist there is no personal cause behind the universe. As a result the universe is either illusory or completely mechanical. Machines are neither good nor evil..and illusions are just that.. illusions..so labelling them good or bad is also illusory. That’s the simple explanation.
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Agreed. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
So basically the typical no self aspect ? Do you think that's all there is to enlightenment? I would say from the absolute perspective there are no others and there is no "you " it's all one undivided undifferentiated field of isness . We make artificial boundaries. However..from the relative perspective there is certainly you and others .if you claim otherwise...then you are either enlightened or insane . Yes it's just one facet .I mentioned other facets in OP. But since you disagree with this facet...let's discuss this :. What do you know? Do you know what reality is ?do you know how we all got here ?Do you know what the fuck is happening right now ?be honest. Do you know what anything is or do you just give it a name and call it a day ? Of course I'm aware of the paradoxical nature of this claim .(to claim you know nothing you must know that you don't know which is a contradiction ). But I'm pointing to something entirely beyond the logical mind .you must experience profound states of not knowing for yourself to understand what that means . -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What is "it "? What are you referring to ? Enlightenment? -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If everything is possible.. then yes of course. But an infinite universe doesn’t mean infinite possibility. It only means anything that CAN happen WILL happen. If something has a non-zero probability of happening.. then over an infinite amount of events that thing will halpen. Imagine you are a cartoon character, living on a sheet of paper. A very large sheet of paper… for all you know..it’s infinite. in any case.. you never saw an edge. Someone tells you that there are other sheets of paper on which different rules apply. Maybe you are a cartoon character in a world drawn with a pencil.. someone tells you that there are other sheets of paper on which strange things exist that you have never seen.. or even imagined.. in your cartoon world, like “color”. So you ask… but if my world is infinite, where can these other sheets of paper be? Well… not in your sheet of paper. They exist outside of it and independently of it. So reality is infinite but it will always appear as finite . You can't see infinity .you can only experience finite things .like every object in your room right now . About bias . Yes the ego mind looks into the world and divide into good and bad for survival agenda. But survival is the real God that got you by the balls . So you can't live and maintain a human life unless you're biased . So in conclusion..you will always be biasd as long as you're alive .so you will always suffer . -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's not enough to be "Deeply " Conscious. You have to be 10000% Conscious. If there is a Trace of a Doubt in you about who you fundamentally are then that's not enlightenment. Also ..There is only one Absolute. No different Absolutes. The Absolute is the Now . -
OK this is not stuff that I have pulled out of my ass.. it's in accordance with Leo's series on how to get laid . So ..the number one #1 reason you don't have a girlfriend or not getting laid is because you don't approach . You just sit in your dad's house eating potato chips and playing video games all day every day.and you expect that attractive girls will just magically land on your lap ? Good luck with that! So ..without rambling too much . Start approaching. Today. Tonight. Stop making stupid fucking excuses. And btw ..don't expect that you won't suck at first .because you will . Oh boy how many times I come off awkward as fuck when talking to girls in my town . But you gotta make it a daily habit . A challenge for yourself. One approach at least per day .push yourself out of your comfort zone .find the places in your city where girls hang out..and move your ass to there. See girl..approach girl .
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Suffering is a form of evil . God could easily effortlessly effectively efficiently allow for evolution without struggling..yet he didn't. How to explain that ? (I know the answer ..I'm just testing you ) -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
. He created both good and bad so that he can see them fight each other.and good will always win at the end . And its all for a purpose and for the greater good brother. Please consider visiting a psychiatrist. Its not for vanity .there is a great goodness awaiting you . Just hurry up and die before you die and see for yourself the goodness that is surrounding you all the time . -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Agree .God-Consciousness is a state of awareness. It is an ever-evolving process. You cannot just read it in a book. You must experience it. I haven't experienced it myself. And I don't doubt that Leo has experienced it in his trips . But I think since consciousness/reality /existence is infinite ..then all we are doing with these endless chasing of mystical states is chasing our tail . "An absolute truth I'm an infinite reality "..do you see any flaw in this line ? You are actually abiding as it 100% of the time . Again the message here is that there is nothing that needs to happen. You are already what you eternally are . Exactly. It's slippery. You can't grab hold of it. Once you think you've got it ..rest assured that you're wrong ? Great idea ?. -
Someone here replied to Yimpa's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Yimpa you're cute .I like you. (No homo). -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yeah it's paradoxical lol. Im saying we know that we don't know . I think it's Socrates who said "the only thing I know is that I know nothing ". It's exhilarating to understand that there are unlimited new things and places to explore.. new concepts to ponder without end and multitude ways of developing ourselves. ignorance is bliss.? -
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Yes .also people like Jim Newman..Tony Parsons..Bentinho Massaro etc . They all use the word "enlightenment ". Leo is the only spiritual teacher I'm aware of who calls it "God realization ". You can't abide in a nondual state forever .simply because reality doesn't know stillness .it's constantly changing. So enlightenment is realizing there is no need for literally anything. Abiding or otherwise. You can’t sustain a state. You can’t sustain any state..because it is the nature of states that they come and go. They emerge..and they pass. You are a human aren’t you? Do you have to sustain the state of being a human? Probably not,..because being human is not a state ..it is what you are. When you become non-duality then you will no longer have to sustain it..any more than you have to sustain your humanity now. Non-duality will not be a state.. it will be what you are. Yes I honestly think he is delusional. All these definition and different facets of awakening...I think he is getting so obsessed with figuring the shit out of reality .which is basically impossible. Reality will forever remain unknowable. Most fears to question your enlightenment is bs…. Because questioning it means all ones cultural background ..beliefs . respect ..hope including goal of permanence is challenged. I would say ..when one “gets it” that impermanence is the security of beingness..he is not this identity he thinks himself to be … He is only bounded by the mind and the idea of enlightenment gets the whole. no desire ..no hope .. no grief ..no pain follows that one. Interesting .You’re playing a cool role in a movie but it’s not going the way you like it. So you start to push the envelope and see if you can change how the movie is playing out. You can’t. So get you pissed off and start to inquire what the Truth is. Then through no cause or result of anything “you do” (because you d.on’t exist and there is no do-er) enlightenment happens through you and there it is. Non-duality does not need to be sustained…it is always the case. You are always alone…for there is no other. There is only the Self. All is always well.?? you caused it to yourself. it is your duty to lay your ego aside..and face the problems in order to grow as a human being (which can be consiered clearing karma). Idk what you talking about lol -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Lol You listen to too much Mooji and Rupert Spira . It isn’t a state to aspire to. It is a moment of revelation: “Be still and know that I am God.” You make it another thing to achieve. Or to abide. There’s nothing to achieve. You are life.. I am life.. s/he is life… Life is. God is. Who is the one who desires to become something.. as though he is separate from what is/life? -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Agreed. But it can get tricky .because people will hear that and then think that "happiness " is snorting Cocaine from a hooker's tits .happiness is our natural state. Not found in exciting experiences. Although there is nothing wrong with having fun. But pleasure is simply different from happiness. Yes it's the typical no self realisation. I realized that the people here and especially Leo are kinda shiting on this aspect of enlightenment because its not "the highest ". And I agree .there is a lot more to become conscious of than merely to recognize there is no separate self and duality is illusory . But honestly I can't speak about God realization or omniscience etc because honestly I have zero experience of them .so that is why I said In OP it's not resonating with me instead of calling it downright bullshit. Do you think "Truth "points to the same thing as "Happiness "? -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Enlightement OK thanks for your opinion. i will contemplate more. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Didn't say otherwise . There are no "Illusions " .the word itself refers to something that doesn't exist . Everything is real .even a dream or a drug-induced hallucination is real . If reality appears to be finite .then it's finite .if reality appears to be infinite ..then it's infinite . There is nothing that needs to happen .forgetting a glimpse that you had in the past is a necessary part of infinity . Its like not appreciating the black color in the Mona Lisa's hair..without realizing that every little detail is necessary ?. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
To some degree. I'm conscious of pretty amazing stuff . But I still haven't achieved full on Buddhahood nirvanic bliss 24/7. -
Everyone in my fucking college are blabbering about this stupid GPT thing. I think AI in general is purported to be greater than it really is. the media is trying to make it out to be like in science fiction movies ..when it is not. Just tell me if I'm correct . .is it the politics of fear ? Are they trying to make out that "they "or others ( Russians) will have control of our lives potentially leading to our destruction? I just don't get what the fuss is about . . Computers already have AI search engines.. and search providers already watch everything we do for advertising purposes. Surely the police, intelligence agencies and the military will also be using the same AI to collect data. For me it is all about control..we will have to watch everything we say and do. ...and that isn’t any kind of freedom.
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@Michael569 I see . Enjoy your presidency of the health section. I just wanted to see you talking about politics or sex or consciousness or anything other than health stuff .because you are truly a genius in that field. So I'm curious if you have the same knowledge in other kind of topics as well.. No .I just meant its practical topic .and you are a practical oreinented dude . You don't like fluffy spiritual mumbo-jumbo
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I think the future of AI will be far more mundane than the media would have people believe. we can't downplay the effects AI will have on society because it's simply unknowable. . If humans are replaced by AI, who are the corporate administrators going to sell their goods and services to in order to recoup their investment in AI?