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I don't resonate with what Leo calls "God realization " or "absolute solipsism "etc . I don't know what is he talking about. To me ..enlightenment is not that you get to know something. Its the realization that you know absolutely nothing. .completely .and to be OK with that and not finding it troublesome . To be at peace with not knowing. You barely know 1% of all there is to know . I'm only saying this to not be extreme .the truth is you literally do not know anything. Period Also enlightenment is the realization that everything is OK .everything is alright. No matter what happens .it's all gonna be good at the end .as the saying goes "everything will be okay at the end .If it's not okay ..then it's not the end ". Enlightenment is realizing everything Is you . Not to be confused with solipsism. But all other people in the essence are essentially you . But they have consciousness just like you . Enlightenment is realizing everything is inevitable. Each atom In the cosmos follows the laws of physics. Everything is preordained from the beginning-less beginning. Enlightenment is realizing that you don't need anything. You lack nothing. you are perfect and complete just the way you are . And finally...Enlightenment is realizing you are the creator of reality. You created this universe. Nobody else .and there is nothing to do but just to relax and enjoy the ride knowing that all is well .

Ok thanks for your respectful response. I welcome all constructive criticism. I will try to work on it . Have at it ..it's not like I give a F.

Sorry I can't be humble when I hear utter nonsense. Change means growth . Life is a fucking cosmic riddle .if you dont Change your epistemology every other day ..then you are doing it wrong .

You are doing it all wrong . You should first get your basics handled. Are you financially independent? Do you have a stable job ?do you have a girlfriend? As per Maslow pyramid? Drop this daily mental masturbation about awakening and get your shit together first.

Jesus is imaginary.

You are not even 1% awake . You don't care about genuine awakening. You just want to sound smart and poetic . You're on this section of the forum almost 24/7 correcting everyone and lecturering everyone about awakening. But you don't know what awakening is. Awakeing is Surrender resistance to your reality. Keep telling yourself nothing is fundamentally wrong and there are no wrong decisions. But you deep down believing there is. Otherwise you wouldn't mind being wrong. It is NOT about continuous learning..growing and becoming. Human suffering is nowhere near what it used to be. As tough as it maybe to accept.the truth is..misfortune.. disasters and disease have always served to elevate humanity as a whole. We must keep expanding, and resistance is futile. Remind yourself that all situations are transient. Nothing ever stays the same. Find a way to accept this reality or better still..enjoy it. Expect everything will work out in the end. You attract what you expect.it’s a universal truth. With that also remember there is always an unseen all-knowing consciousness at work. So all of us will end up 100% awake at the end in hands of God. So there is no need for hurry . Chill out buddy .

@Breakingthewall I'm done arguing with you .

All of that Is misguided and has nothing to do with true enlightenment or true jnana. The enlightened do not resist or deny what is… if you resist or deny what is..that creates suffering. The enlightened accepts every moment..lets what comes come..let what goes go..and be with what is. However.this does not mean nothing should be changed...but even if nothing changes with effort…the enlightened are still at peace and accepted it. The effort and choice is ours to make..but the fruits of action and fruits of that choice are not ours.

@Bazooka Jesus are you even conscious of alien love version 2.0?

No .there is no difference between the normal state and the not normal state. All states come and go .so it doesn't matter what state you are at because It won't last . Enlightenment is simply acceptance. Ir starts with acceptance of your own lack of acceptance. That’s the only way it can start and deepen. Self-compassion is key.. not self-judgment for your lack of acceptance .. this always backfire. You can’t make yourself more accepting, that’s a very common spiritual trap. Only when you accept all your non-acceptance.. true acceptance will naturally arise and it won’t feel like you imagine it will.

@Javfly33 ok

What is being said is There is nothing wrong with "the normal state ". You are gonna experience the full array of life ..the good and the bad and the ugly. All of it is who you really are . If you resist resistance then what you resist persists . If you accept it unconditionally ..you can be smiling even if the sky is falling apart in the day of judgment and you are being dipped in lava . God is EVERYTHING.

Again you are confusing enlightenment for a state . Enlightenment is not a state .enlightenment is when you become absolutely conscious there is problems..no self..no other..no fear..no goals..no grief . Not knowing .acceptance..goodness ..unconditional love .freedom etc .and it's who you really are. Not a state that comes and goes .

There is no cake. Reality is apparence. What is there to know ? What? Where? When ? How? Why ?

Not sure I follow.. when yoy say "to be open to the now "..what ,exactly, are you talking about ?

Well obviously you don't know where I'm coming from or what kind of work I've done . I meditate and contemplate deeply every single day .i would say I'm 90% fully enlightened. Because I understand stuff about reality that no one has ever understood (not that I'm aware of ). And It’s not to be proven. Whether or not someone else believes that I am enlightened literally does not matter to me. I do not want or need to convince anyone, because I have no need to control anyone else (who are not really others anyway, so it would be pointless anyway).

No you don't have to do anything. Everything is what it is and life will always be life .before enlightenment..chop Wood and carry water..After enlightenment..chop wood and carry water . Here is the thing ...unless you didn't arrive to the conclusion that only the Now exists ...then you are not enlightened.

Well..I'm certainly not talking out of my ass . Not sure about you . There Is no "work ' required also . Enlightenment is the simplest and most basic thing imaginable. It's so simple.that people completely overlook it even after years of meditating and practice. They overlook it because they're searching for some grand attainment or realization.. an experience of cosmic bliss and oneness.. something that seems worthy of all the "work" they've put in to trying to find it. Enlightenment is awareness recognizing itself. That's it..being aware of being aware.

I can totally relate.i will give you example..You are eating something and it tastes terrible to you..I tell you stop eating it.. and you say well I don't have free will. Stop and think, if it tastes terrible, why offer it to others? Why are you focusing on it to begin with? Why not choose a better feeling perspective? Why not focus on anything else that feels good to you? And offer that? When you do, the world becomes your oyster. You had a realization there isn’t a separate self “in the body”. There are people who have realized they are literally the entire universe and even well beyond, and they are playing with it, having a blast, and receiving all that they are wanting. This is presented to you, and you immediately dismiss it, look for all it’s fault’s, Stop and slow down. You’re experiencing what you’re attracting. You tend to meet being told that with mockery, cynicism, and you go into made up objective examples, to deflect from looking at your own inner self talk & behaviors. You gotta notice when that happens, because it’s you “going unconscious” so to speak. These ‘should’ be the very things you are desiring to become more conscious of.

-Mindfulness meditation daily . -Shifting focus from negative thoughts to positive thoughts. Because you are the creator of your reality .how would you like to create it ?

1-there is no empirical evidence that you gonna die someday in the future. There is no empirical evidence that there will be a future. In fact ..the universe might just disappear completely and turn into a black blank void of nothingness just the next moment . There is no glue that is holding everything together. Yet..miraculously..everything is alright and functions very well. 2- synchronicities which we all take for granted.. like the fact that we miraculously find a job..the planets are miraculously holding themselves together etc this graceful flow of consciousness might break down and devolves into a disruptive stream. Chaos rather than graceful transition of form. Existence is like a house of cards..yet all of us treat it like its not made of cards but made of concrete. And we somehow think realizing the dreamy nature of form will somehow make us immune to suffering if that dream collapses. Existence is flowing extremely gracefully right now. The fact that you can sanely sit here and read this post takes beyond infinite amount of grace. All of your billions of cells working perfectly together..form that the finite mind is looking through is holding its solidity and only changes slightly..your work colleagues call you at paced times. even if you complain.. your ego destructs at an extremely peaceful and good pace along the path. Your memories are perfectly in sync with each other and with form. All of this is extremely malleable. You're a nano meter away from all of that grace just crashing and chaotically imploding on itself. Its a house of cards..not concrete.

@jdc7733 I'm 50 % gay . I'm also deeply into philosophy. Where are you from ?

Yes the message reached me .I just replied to you .

I'm here .

We could call it being? To know something you must be it ?