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thank you for sharing this . It was a mistake on my part to lump Nisargadatta Maharaj together with Ramana Maharshi and Robert Adams.there is a fundamental philosophical difference between them regarding the nature of consciousness and the Absolute. Nisargadatta repeatedly emphasizes that the Absolute (Parabrahman) is beyond consciousness. For him consciousness itself and the sense of “I am” and the entire field of experience is NOT the final reality but a temporary manifestation that appears and disappears. He seems to equate the Absolute with a state of complete absence..not consciousness..not experience not being in any ordinary sense. He often uses deep sleep as an analogy ..not because deep sleep itself is the Absolute but because it points to the absence of conscious experience. Nisargadatta says The Absolute is beyond both consciousness and unconsciousness and beyond being and non being and beyond all categories the mind can conceive. We can discuss that and find out whether it’s true but again through direct observation not only through thinking rationally because rationally isn’t fundamental.

Correct .

Mad respect !

If you have a question ask away and we’ll see if advaita has an answer. stop tiptoeing around.

@Breakingthewall thank you for your participation in this thread.

It’s actually the balls not the dick .

And when you shut up what is left ? This below ? lol

@Breakingthewall what you’re overlooking is I clearly set the rules straight from the get go . no speculations ..no theorizing .. no thought experiments. only direct investigation.

This is theorizing and abstraction. Pure falsehood .you’re 180 degrees on the wrong direction.

That was answered clearly in OP. It’s not a question of“Why would it be that way?” or “Isn’t a simpler explanation better?” .Those are curious questions but they’re speculative. They don’t determine what is true.The more fundamental question is: What is undeniably present? The one thing that cannot be doubted is consciousness itself. Every thought..perception..memory and even your belief in a reality Independent of consciousness and scientific observation appear within consciousness. We have never encountered anything outside of experience..and experience is inseparable from consciousness. consciousness is epistemically fundamental..it is the necessary condition for anything to be known or experienced at all. Whatever reality ultimately is.. it is only ever encountered through consciousness. So if consciousness is fundamental.. that conclusion is not based on speculation about what reality should be like ..but on recognizing the one undeniable fact .

I clearly stated that it’s sickening to me to read the same confused discussions everyday on this forum about these topics . i clearly stated the questions of my inquiry. i clearly stated that these questions can never be closed off by thinking about them abstractly but only through direct investigation. I clearly pointed out to you the falsity of saying the mind and body observe consciousness instead of consciousness observing them . im not going to discuss this topic theoretically . If what you are saying fails against empirical investigation then it’s not worth anything . no need to say I’m sorry . It’s okay .

Ok you’re totally inconsistent. I don’t know what to make of your statements .

You are trying to point to that which can never be pointed to . I totally get what cannot be ever gotten . But this thread discusses specific topics.

I agree that as a team England made better performances . But trust me ..Messi is a team onto himself lol . The final is France vs Argentina . Having Messi or Ronaldo in your team is like starting a match with an already leading score 1-0 lol.

But have you actually carefully examined what you are saying ? The body is nothing more than flesh and bone. It does not contain consciousness..it appears within consciousness. Every perception of the body is itself an experience arising in consciousness.No one has ever experienced a body outside of consciousness. And the “mind” is not an object that exists somewhere in the brain or the body. There is no physical thing called the mind. It is simply a conceptual label for the continuous flow of thoughts and memories and emotions. Thoughts do not generate consciousness.. they arise within it..disappear within it and are known only because consciousness is already present. You are not carful enough with your misinformation. I’m not saying you are misleading people on purpose but you are incapable of admitting that your perspectives might be false .