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And you don’t believe in death at least ? If the self is illusion then who dies ? If the body dies then are you the body ? another question: could something be true without being a belief?

I think it’s actually a fairly simple question to contemplate. “Why” is an abstraction created by the human mind. I don’t see..hear..or directly experience any inherent “why” in the present moment in the same way I can see my laptop sitting in front of me. There is simply a laptop without a “why.” Animals have no idea what we’re talking about when we ask these kinds of questions. If by “why” you mean what caused our existence..then that’s something science and philosophy can attempt to investigate. But if you mean our ultimate purpose or destiny…then that becomes entirely subjective a construction of the human mind once again . In your own contemplation when you asked “What’s the meaning of meaning?” you already exposed the problem.it’s ultimately a linguistic game or a conceptual house of cards. Meaning does not appear to be something inherently built into reality itself. If you want a positive answer..then perhaps the only purpose of life is to enjoy it..experience it..and live it fully. But if you want the most brutally honest answer then there is probably no objective purpose at all.

Nothing will Save us from what ? if you mean death then yes but there is a higher intelligence that runs everything. When you sleep ..what keeps your eyes closed? What digests your food right now ? What makes the earth orbit around the sun and around its axis? The ego self has no participation whatsoever in these processes yet something else is doing everything.

No problem. I apologize and I hid the message.

@Breakingthewall nothing weird about that . And that’s not what is being discussed . Obviously the body will get weak from cancer . Ramana also died of cancer . When his disciples and devotees insisted that he gets hospitalized he said the body itself is a disease . Let it die.

here’s self-inquiry Who experiences my life ? I do . Who am I ? Where did this I come from ? Where is this I ? all conceptual answers are false . Find it directly . Look inside your own being . There is no you as a fixed entity sitting there . Is this true or false ?

Osho describing his ego death .

This is false .

The ego is the feeling that you are a person separate from reality . It’s not true . There is no actual person separate from reality . So it can’t diminish or disappear because it doesn’t exist in the first place . Then why do I say the ego can’t understand this ? Because actually it’s clear as day that the ego is illusory if you care to do five minutes of self-inquiry. You are just afraid of surrendering to reality because you think surrender will make things worse but if the ego is completely gone that’s enlightenment and infinite love . You walk around nothing bothers you anymore like Ramana Maharishi . I’m not saying I’m enlightened though .

@Monster Energy It can be understood intellectually..obviously that’s not what I mean . Good luck getting a person dying of cancer to get cancer is good . Only an enlightened person would be able to do it ..in which case there is no person to do anything.the person died long before .

The ego will never understand this .

I’m dying 😂😂😂

Yeah but you still want a girl and cash so square this with that.

@Jirh I’m seeing these kinds of threads a lot recently. We can never know if the person is sincere about this or trying to soothe themselves out of desperation for a relationship. It’s more likely the latter because as you said it’s in our DNA Lilke literally the whole point of physical existence is to survive and reproduce there is nothing else. And there is a distinction between just sex and a relationship. Today all you need to have sex is literally just money .But money can’t buy you a relationship. Most men here are indeed lacking this aspect . He himself admitted in OP that he is a virgin and desperate for a girlfriend. He is saying he was brain fogging about it but he realized now that he calmed down that it’s no rush he can just focus on daily achievable tasks .

Yeah I get it and sorry for sounding a bit flashy and rude. again what you’re saying is that working and making money or trying to get a girlfriend is simply difficult or requires effort and you don’t want to work..you’d rather sit and meditate but also you still want money and a relationship? Well this can’t fly . As a kid you hated going to school for example but you understand in hindsight this was for your greatest good? I hate going to the gym every morning but no pain no gain .you have to bite that bullet. What do you work as if you don’t mind beyond the startup ? Meditating 5 hours a day is a double edged weapon. Why are you meditating?