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I explained why it’s pointless in the best of my humble abilities. It didn’t just say it’s pointless and leave it at that . I explained why . Try to discuss my argument and prove that it is not pointless. And “pointless “ here is not derogatory or negative . It only means that we cannot arrive at ultimate conclusion regarding this inquiry which is honestly fascinating. But I explained my opinion why it’s pointless in my opinion. Please feel free to discus my argument. Thanks .

I agree as well . Totally on point . But this reverts back to the point I made about the infinite tail chasing . We cannot say EVERYTHING.. because EVERYTHING is bigger than just saying anything forever. If reality is infinite then it will always escape any attempt to encapsulate it . Meaning once again this is a pointless discussion.

I agree . And what exactly is that ? Say it in one word .

Regarding the Leo quote he says “the only thing required to be immortal is the understanding that you are imagining death “ humble musing: obviously there is something immortal and something that dies . The immortal is itself the unborn . Call it the unborntao..infinity ..Allah.. Brahman..consciousness..infinity ..pretty much anything.the labels can vary but the thing that is being labeled is one . the thing that dies is simply forms . Any kind of form by virtue of appearing finite is born and it dies . It arises and fades away . Like this moment..and this moment ..and this moment . But obviously there is something that doesn’t ever die . The only thing that can never die is that which was never born . And the only thing that fits that definition is nothing. Or formlessness. another thing : the human being you show up as forcefully in the world called Jane or Adam or Leo is going to physically die and turn into rot in some dusty grave . If you push back and say you are imagining this ..yes totally agree I had to imagine what I just said . But see what you’re doing ? This leads to infinite loop “you are imagining X” ..”yeah sure but behind it will happen in reality “ “well you just imagined that as well right now “ …….. so where is going to lead . No conclusion is possible. and the most important part is if death is imaginary then everything is imaginary. If everything is imaginary then everything is real !! Here’s how : the imaginary world must have imaginary rules. If I took an imaginary knife and kill my imaginary body ..the imaginary body will die an imaginary death . The only thing you can do to refute this is to actually test it by taking an imaginary knife and slice off your imaginary neck . Less than it it’s totally pointless to discuss.

No problem. I apologize and I hid the message.

@Breakingthewall nothing weird about that . And that’s not what is being discussed . Obviously the body will get weak from cancer . Ramana also died of cancer . When his disciples and devotees insisted that he gets hospitalized he said the body itself is a disease . Let it die.

here’s self-inquiry Who experiences my life ? I do . Who am I ? Where did this I come from ? Where is this I ? all conceptual answers are false . Find it directly . Look inside your own being . There is no you as a fixed entity sitting there . Is this true or false ?

Osho describing his ego death .

This is false .

The ego is the feeling that you are a person separate from reality . It’s not true . There is no actual person separate from reality . So it can’t diminish or disappear because it doesn’t exist in the first place . Then why do I say the ego can’t understand this ? Because actually it’s clear as day that the ego is illusory if you care to do five minutes of self-inquiry. You are just afraid of surrendering to reality because you think surrender will make things worse but if the ego is completely gone that’s enlightenment and infinite love . You walk around nothing bothers you anymore like Ramana Maharishi . I’m not saying I’m enlightened though .

@Monster Energy It can be understood intellectually..obviously that’s not what I mean . Good luck getting a person dying of cancer to get cancer is good . Only an enlightened person would be able to do it ..in which case there is no person to do anything.the person died long before .

The ego will never understand this .

I’m dying 😂😂😂

Yeah but you still want a girl and cash so square this with that.

@Jirh I’m seeing these kinds of threads a lot recently. We can never know if the person is sincere about this or trying to soothe themselves out of desperation for a relationship. It’s more likely the latter because as you said it’s in our DNA Lilke literally the whole point of physical existence is to survive and reproduce there is nothing else. And there is a distinction between just sex and a relationship. Today all you need to have sex is literally just money .But money can’t buy you a relationship. Most men here are indeed lacking this aspect . He himself admitted in OP that he is a virgin and desperate for a girlfriend. He is saying he was brain fogging about it but he realized now that he calmed down that it’s no rush he can just focus on daily achievable tasks .