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I wasn’t asking for the dictionary definition of the word or its equivalent in Hindi. And it’s certainly different from chill . It has emotional and even spiritual and religious aspects to it. More like how to achieve it ,does your soul feel safe and secure? How to heal your inner child? If you’re sad , afraid , lack love ..how to deal with these emotions? Etc

Ok I think I understand what you mean . Thanks

Then never . No I don’t .

@thierry you are god . Can you understand yourself fully ? !

Well , what Islam and the Quran talk about is a mixed of things which are true , and things which are “interesting niche beliefs to study “. An example of truths : God exists . God is all-powerful . God is all-Knowing . an example of beliefs : Angels , Devils , hell , paradise , an afterlife , the day of resurrection.

Because a full understanding means there is not a single thing lacking ,not yet not understood. Since infinity never runs out of new things , god can never understand every single new thing that comes out of his own infinite creating power .

@Breakingthewall I will address your points in a minute. I need time to make sure I understand correctly.

God is infinity . Infinity , by definition, has no end . If God was able to understand itself fully , it would mean God is not infinity . so, God can never understand itself fully , because God doesn’t end . it can understand itself fully implicitly, not explicitly. You can know that God is infinity , but you can’t know how many ants are looking for sugar in some desert area right now . God is All-knowing . God knows everything. But” everything “ is infinite , not a fixed quantity .

When I said the Quran is a work of art, I was referring specifically to its literary and poetic style. Its linguistic structure is distinctive and, in my view, extraordinarily difficult to imitate. That’s also part of why I find its composition so remarkable, particularly given the traditional account of Muhammad as someone who neither read nor wrote. And when I mentioned the Baha’i writings, my point was simply that they attempt to reproduce or echo the Qur’anic style. It’s a fact . Do the research if you don’t know. I wasn’t trying to turn the conversation into a debate about “deep philosophy” or politics. I simply said that Islam is my favorite religion. Favorite does not mean I consider it the end-all and be-all of every possible question. I can admire a religion deeply without pretending that I have nothing left to question, learn, or understand. If you want to discuss Islam’s impact on politics, that’s a completely different conversation .and honestly, I don’t have enough experience or knowledge in that area to pretend otherwise. Leo taught me a principle I take seriously: don’t speak with certainty about things you don’t understand well or haven’t actually experienced. So I’m perfectly comfortable defending what I actually said, while also being honest about the limits of what I know.

I understand Arabic. The Quran , in Arabic ,has a clear and distinct musical rhythm . I’m not claiming the meaning of the phrases is a work of art or not . It mostly speaks about god’s existence, god’s qualities, the purpose of life and such topics . You could argue that any poem is a work of art . But coming from a person who claims to have direct contact with Allah (God ) , and who was historically documented to be illiterate, it makes it beautiful. The Baha’i holy book is a clear attempt at mimicking the Quranic style .

Yes . Most people don’t think they are god though and it’s not going to click in Their minds . So the better alternative is to have a relationship with god as an other ,through worship . Meet people where they are . Don’t assume that all people are at the same level of development. Islam is certainly not the most high consciousness religion, neither in the past nor today . Christianity definitely seems more conscious. I said it’s the most beautiful religion to my heart . Bahai religion is trying to mimic Islam . Their holy book is a laughable attempt at trying to produce a work of literature which is a work of art compared to the Quran .

-The theology and understanding of God is the most accurate and most close to Leo’s teaching about God . - I enjoy listening and hearing the Quran . -still a religion, means it has beliefs which can’t be verified like the afterlife , the existence of spiritual beings like angels and devils , hell , paradise . -contains primitive political ideologies and laws which only belong to the era of Islam and obviously outdated when tried to be applied to our modern world .

My favorite religion. Still a religion though , not infinite enough .

What’s the difference between the “open absolute being “ and everything? As long as you haven’t gotten to openness towards everything then you are still biased towards one outcome versus the other . And I’m not saying that’s a bad thing . Every ego or “psyche” is by definition biased towards what benefits its survival. Can you clarify this point specifically?