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Someone here replied to OBEler's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Someone here replied to OBEler's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The question is : can AI have sentience? Can it have consciousness? , not intelligence. I don’t know in case of relative discussion. I’m asking what is sentience? What is consciousness? Leo’s position is idealism . Consciousness is NOT a second-order byproduct of physics. I want clarification about this point specifically. -
Someone here replied to OBEler's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Well , Duh that’s the whole thing . It’s Artificial Intelligence. You want it biological? Made of cells and neurons instead of silicone chips ? I’m honestly confused and I can’t discuss this stuff. I would love someone to touch on the nature of consciousness. Is consciousness more fundamental than matter or the other way around ? Leo would have to say consciousness is more fundamental than matter , or else he would be a materialist . What is this (X) which has consciousness? Consciousness has (X) . (X) doesn’t possess consciousness. He will say we are not talking about the absolute perspective , We are assuming that consciousness = perception. Well good luck arriving at a truthful conclusion when the assumptions are false . -
Someone here replied to OBEler's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Someone here started following The biggest pro of religion.
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Someone here replied to Majed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Religion has some value . Supposedly, religious people are seeking God or the divine , which is the same as objective of spirituality. And it’s good to have a community of peers who share the same spiritual rituals as you. So I’m not with demonizing religion. it should just leave science alone lol. -
Listening to him is a spiritual experience in itself. His presence and the way he speaks plus the wisdom coming out of his mouth are one in a trillion .
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Someone here replied to Inliytened1's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Someone here started following Why are we all here
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Someone here replied to Nick_98's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Someone here replied to Nick_98's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Dude , seriously? for starters the hundreds of hours of free content on YouTube without any membership subscriptions and you are complaining about the life purpose course ? Yes he obviously needs to feed himself and make money. You make no sense . -
Someone here replied to Nick_98's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes of course you are god . Who the fuck else ? if god before creating the universe was alone . Who was that ? He created separate entities to deceive itself that it’s not alone and there is nothing but him . Imagine after you die you go to heaven and finally meet that motherfucker , you will see a mirror. “God” means EXISTENCE. All the cosmos . All the animals .. stars .. galaxies.. aliens .. humans .. dimensions.. planets … cells .. atoms .. etc YOU are not separated from existence because you are interwoven with existence. So you are existence in the form of a human . So you are apparently taking the form of just a human now . But your truest identity is God. -
Someone here replied to Nick_98's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Please don’t project your own suffering and emotional turmoil in this work onto others . I think Leo made numerous disclaimers before that this work assumes that you are a mentally stable person and you are not mentally fragile or suffering from mental disorders or easily h traumatized by thinking about existential issues. -
Someone here started following Quit trying to understand God
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http://youtube.com/post/UgkxoRHX5tE-8bVev6gzIIegClDpPQZBkKIL?si=ymkW0JK-mII2IUII This honestly broke my heart. 💔 Watching this man suffer from cancer, knowing how much pain he is going through, and hearing him say that all he wants is to spend time with his son and see him smile brought tears to my eyes. Imagine being in a position where all you want is a little more time with your child. To sit with him, watch him smile, hear his laughter, and enjoy the little moments that most of us take for granted every single day. And it made me think about how easily we forget what truly matters in life. We spend so much of our time wanting more. We want more money, a better job, a nicer house, a better body, more success, and a life that looks better than the one we have now. We look at other people and feel like we are missing something. Unfortunately life is a bitch most of the time you must learn what truly matters in life through suffering . There is nothing wrong with wanting a better life. We all have dreams and things we wish we could achieve .But sometimes, in the process of trying to get more out of life, we forget to appreciate the life we already have. Think about it for a moment…If you woke up this morning and your body allowed you to get out of bed without unbearable pain, if you had food to eat, a roof over your head, and people in your life whom you love, you literally have everything you need and want. If your parents are still alive and you can hear their voices, if your children are healthy and you can watch them grow, if you have someone to come home to, or even someone you can call when you are having a difficult day, please do not take these things for granted. They may seem ordinary to you because they are part of your everyday life. But they are not ordinary to everyone. Somewhere, someone is lying in a hospital bed wishing they could go home and have one more normal day with their family.Somewhere, someone who has lost a parent would give anything to hear their voice again.Somewhere, a mother or father is praying for more time with their child.And somewhere, someone is going through an illness that makes them wish they could trade everything they own for something as simple as a healthy body and a peaceful day.It is heartbreaking when you really think about it. Sometimes, we only understand the value of something when we are faced with the possibility of losing it. We don’t think much about our health until we get sick. We don’t always appreciate the people around us until they are no longer there. We complain about our daily routines without realizing that there are people who would do anything to have their ordinary lives back. We get so caught up in what we don’t have that we forget to look at what we do.And I think that is one of the saddest things about being human.We can have a home, food, good health, and people who love us, and still spend our days feeling like our lives are not enough because someone else has more than we do I Don’t want to wait until I lose my health to realize how precious it was. You can want more for your life and still be grateful for the life you have. Both can exist at the same time.So work hard. Have dreams. Build the life you want. But remember to live along the way.we are living a life that someone else is praying for.
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Someone here replied to Manas's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Someone here started following anyone reached samadhi state?
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What in the actual fuck are you doing smoking? 🤦♂️ Seriously. What the actual fuck? Health is the foundation of life. It’s the anchor of my entire physical existence. My body is the one place I’m guaranteed to live in for as long as I’m alive, and somehow, I’ve been voluntarily introducing poison into it . If I fuck up my health, my whole life is damaged from its roots. Every ambition, every dream, every plan for the future depends on this physical body functioning well enough to let me experience them. Let’s be brutally honest: what exactly am I getting out of this? What is the grand prize? Yeah it smells really good and makes me kinda high but in exchange of destroying my entire life ?! And yet, the mind can somehow make this look reasonable. That’s the fascinating part. I can know that health is fundamental to my existence, understand the consequences of smoking, and still entertain the idea of lighting another cigarette. The intelligence is there. The information is there. The consciousness is there. So what the fuck is the negotiation about? I’m implementing a new approach for quitting cigarettes: using consciousness to stop smoking. It’s kinda similar to Leo’s idea of “Awareness alone is curative “. Consciousness means seeing things as they are, not as my cravings would like me to see them. A cigarette is not a necessity even if the physical brain is constantly begging for it . There is nothing much to say or do here really. All it takes is mindfulness ffs. I have the ability to observe my own thoughts, question my own behavior, understand cause and effect, and recognize the value of my health. I can see the absurdity of a habit even while feeling the urge to repeat it. My health is the foundation of my life. i want to live consciously. That means my actions have to reflect what I already know. Consciousness means don’t ever touch a morherfucking cigarette again. I know what matters.Now, I act like I know.
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I became directly conscious of one aspect of God. I had the realization before that God is peace, which I have talked about earlier, but yesterday I experienced directly another facet of God. It is something that can be described by many names: absolute existence, ultimate power, ultimate magnificence, ultimate glory, and might. All of these aspects became directly clear in my mind recently, not merely as philosophical concepts or ideas that I had intellectually understood, but as something I had directly experienced and glimpsed for myself. Previously, I had glimpsed the peace of God through meditation. it was a glimpse of a profound peace that seemed to transcend the usual fluctuations of the mind and the changing circumstances of life. Through meditation I recognized that peace is not merely something the mind experiences under favorable conditions like chilling on the beach drinking grape juice…but rather it is something much more fundamental to reality itself. It is literally inside my being . Like literally inside my physical body .I had come to understand God as peace through this experience, although I knew that my understanding was still incomplete. Yesterday, however, I experienced something different through a “religious experience “I glimpsed another dimension of the divine. I experienced ecstasy, glory, absoluteness, magnificence, and overwhelming power. It was as though another aspect of God had become directly apparent to my consciousness. Whereas my previous glimpse had been primarily associated with peace, this experience revealed something that could be described as the absolute greatness and majesty of existence itself. And this has a terrifying flavor to it rather than peaceful or quiet. It is also GOOD. It is so good that it is terrifying. It is so good You want to run away from it because of how good it is lol . These two experiences have made me realize that God cannot be reduced to a single attribute or description. We may call God peace, but peace might be only one aspect of the divine reality. We may also speak of God as absolute existence, infinite power, ultimate glory, magnificence, or the very ground of being. And actually god is all names . But some of them hit closer . The important distinction for me is that I am no longer considering these ideas exclusively at the level of intellectual understanding. I have had glimpses of what I interpret as different aspects of God through direct experience. Although these glimpses were brief and my understanding remains incomplete, they have had a profound effect on my conviction regarding the existence of God. I am beginning to understand that there is a significant difference between believing in God because of philosophical reasoning and knowing God through direct experience. This brings me to the question of atheism and the limits of philosophical arguments for the existence of God. I do not think that atheists can be convinced of the existence of God by philosophical arguments alone, such as the intelligent design argument, the fine tuning argument, or the ontological argument. These arguments do provide rational grounds for believing in God, and I believe they point toward the existence of a divine reality. However, philosophical arguments and direct experience operate at different levels. An argument can lead someone to consider the possibility that God exists, but it cannot necessarily produce the direct realization of God in that person’s consciousness. Someone can study arguments for God’s existence, understand their logical structure, and even acknowledge that they have considerable philosophical force without undergoing any corresponding spiritual transformation. A person may understand the concept of peace without ever experiencing profound inner peace. Similarly, someone may understand the arguments for the existence of God without ever having a direct experience of what they interpret as the divine. When you have glimpsed God directly, however, the question takes on a completely different significance. God is no longer a philosophical proposition to be debated. The question becomes grounded in something that you have personally experienced. I say that I know with 100% certainty that God exists, I am referring to the conviction that arose from these experiences. Before these glimpses, I could think about God, contemplate philosophical arguments, and explore different religious and spiritual traditions. But after experiencing what I interpret as the peace, ecstasy, glory, absoluteness, and magnificence of God, my conviction became much more immediate and personal. I am not claiming that I have completely understood God or that I have attained the highest possible spiritual realization. In fact, I would say the opposite: what I have experienced so far has been only a glimpse. I have touched something that seems profoundly significant, but I have not yet fully understood its nature, its implications . But the threshold I passed is I am no longer approaching the question of God solely through speculation or philosophical argument. I now have personal experiences that I can contemplate, investigate, and attempt to understand more deeply. My task is to refine my understanding, and discover more . The next major challenge for me is to reconcile these experiences of God with Advaita Vedanta. Advaita Vedanta teaches that ultimate reality is Brahman, the nondual absolute, and that the deepest truth of the individual self, the Atman, is not separate from Brahman. The apparent separation between the individual self and ultimate reality or the self of all of existence is ultimately overcomed through The realization of nonduality . It reveals that reality is not fundamentally divided into two independent existences: a separate individual self on one side and an ultimate reality on the other…Yet my experiences have also presented God to me as peace, glory, absolute existence, ultimate power, and magnificence. I want to understand Does the divine appear to consciousness through different aspects, while its ultimate nature remains beyond all descriptions? Can the personal God and the impersonal absolute be understood as different ways of approaching the same ultimate reality? And if so, how precisely does Advaita Vedanta explain this relationship? Above all, I want to understand how these glimpses of God fit into the larger question of existence and consciousness. Is the peace of God inseparable from the glory of God? Is the personal experience of divine magnificence ultimately reconciled with the nondual realization of Brahman? And can the direct experience of God lead to a deeper understanding of the truth that Advaita Vedanta attempts to express? These are the questions I want to pursue from this point onward.
