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@Breakingthewall thank you for your participation in this thread.

It’s actually the balls not the dick .

And when you shut up what is left ? This below ? lol

@Breakingthewall what you’re overlooking is I clearly set the rules straight from the get go . no speculations ..no theorizing .. no thought experiments. only direct investigation.

This is theorizing and abstraction. Pure falsehood .you’re 180 degrees on the wrong direction.

That was answered clearly in OP. It’s not a question of“Why would it be that way?” or “Isn’t a simpler explanation better?” .Those are curious questions but they’re speculative. They don’t determine what is true.The more fundamental question is: What is undeniably present? The one thing that cannot be doubted is consciousness itself. Every thought..perception..memory and even your belief in a reality Independent of consciousness and scientific observation appear within consciousness. We have never encountered anything outside of experience..and experience is inseparable from consciousness. consciousness is epistemically fundamental..it is the necessary condition for anything to be known or experienced at all. Whatever reality ultimately is.. it is only ever encountered through consciousness. So if consciousness is fundamental.. that conclusion is not based on speculation about what reality should be like ..but on recognizing the one undeniable fact .

I clearly stated that it’s sickening to me to read the same confused discussions everyday on this forum about these topics . i clearly stated the questions of my inquiry. i clearly stated that these questions can never be closed off by thinking about them abstractly but only through direct investigation. I clearly pointed out to you the falsity of saying the mind and body observe consciousness instead of consciousness observing them . im not going to discuss this topic theoretically . If what you are saying fails against empirical investigation then it’s not worth anything . no need to say I’m sorry . It’s okay .

Ok you’re totally inconsistent. I don’t know what to make of your statements .

You are trying to point to that which can never be pointed to . I totally get what cannot be ever gotten . But this thread discusses specific topics.

I agree that as a team England made better performances . But trust me ..Messi is a team onto himself lol . The final is France vs Argentina . Having Messi or Ronaldo in your team is like starting a match with an already leading score 1-0 lol.

But have you actually carefully examined what you are saying ? The body is nothing more than flesh and bone. It does not contain consciousness..it appears within consciousness. Every perception of the body is itself an experience arising in consciousness.No one has ever experienced a body outside of consciousness. And the “mind” is not an object that exists somewhere in the brain or the body. There is no physical thing called the mind. It is simply a conceptual label for the continuous flow of thoughts and memories and emotions. Thoughts do not generate consciousness.. they arise within it..disappear within it and are known only because consciousness is already present. You are not carful enough with your misinformation. I’m not saying you are misleading people on purpose but you are incapable of admitting that your perspectives might be false .

I will attempt my best to explain what are the fundamental teachings of Advaita Vedanta as taught by spiritual teachers like Ramana Maharshi..Robert Adams ..Nisargadatta Maharaj . Because I read a lot of confusing and conflicting opinions and discussions around these teachings on the forum . Feel free to skip if you are familiar with this information ..but don’t skip if you are confused about these teachings and you want a reminder or a clarification. The questions which are tackled by these teachers are : what is the self ? What is the nature of consciousness? What is reality ? the claim is that these questions have a definitive final answer if we investigate them directly and by introspection and self-inquiry. But they can never be answered definitively through abstract reasoning and armchair philosophizing alone . your most essential identity is not the body ..or the thinking mind or the personality or personal history or your life story in the past and future.Those are appearances in consciousness.What you truly are is consciousness in which all experiences arise. But of course at the ultimate level that division collapses and there is a total unity between consciousness and appearances within it . But most people are overlooking the pure consciousness which is their essential nature and instead identifying themselves completely with those fore mentioned things . what is the nature of consciousness? What is the nature of the self ? What is the nature of reality? the answer to all these questions is exactly the same ..pure consciousness. How is this known ? by direct observation. I cannot prove logically or abstractly that consciousness is the most fundamental thing in existence and is the fundamental nature of existence. Because in theory the question:” what if consciousness is a byproduct of invisible matter or some other invisible substance? “ can be posited forever without reaching a final conclusion. But you have to understand why that is . It’s because reason and logic itself is secondary. You can’t have logic without consciousness..but you can have consciousness without logic . In fact .. you can’t have anything without consciousness. And again this conclusion can only be arrived at through consciousness itself experientially ..not through thinking . If you ask “but why is experience itself a metric of truth “? The answer is because experience is quite literally all there ever was .. is .. or will be . “But maybe experience itself is an illusion and it’s not happening despite it appearing to happen !!” . Again you can get skeptical in the abstract forever and remain lost in endless skepticism forever . The bottom line is there is no way to prove the existence of experience through thoughts . The only proof of experience is experience itself . The only way you can prove experience is happening is by experiencing experience. moving on. So that’s regarding the answer to the question of what is reality or what is experience or what is consciousness. lets tackle the nature of “you “. Once again there will never be a definitive answer in theory ..only by direct observation. Self-inquiry What is found as “you “ in direct experience? Thoughts arise but You are not the thinker because you can’t guess even the next thought popping in your mind. Actions happen like me typing these words right now but I’m not the doer because I can actually experience that the words are just being written without any clear understanding of how exactly I am doing it . They just “happen “. so notice that I’m conscious of what is happening. Therefore I’m the consciousness that observes everything. And once again If you get even more literal there is no clear boundary between a thought and consciousness of a thought . Therefore you could say you are the thoughts but it’s important to recognize that you are also not the thought but you are consciousness observing it. So the answers to the three questions:what is the self ? What is reality ? What is experience ? Are all the same . Can you tell me what it is if you’ve been following along?

Being God is just being . There is literally no action step at all . Zero . Nothing to do. No questions to answers . No distinctions to make between control and no control . the mind thrives on these things though .

So you’d think England eliminating Argentina? You forgot that Argentina has Messi . I honestly don’t think it’s so far fetched that Argentina lifts the cup again.

The problem is you assume that this dead end is wrong or problematic or something to be fixed or correct . That’s the very illusion that you have to break through for gaining enlightenment. And of course in the ultimate sense enlightenment is the very recognition that there is nothing to seek because as you say you are already God /Truth right now just by being here . Most people (including spiritual seekers ) are caught in the hypnosis that there is an actual path and actual end all be all ultimate truth to reach hiding behind the darkness of the universe lol . There isn’t . This is it here . There is nothing to achieve or to attain or to search for . And recognizing this is what enlightenment is . I’m not saying there is nothing beautiful to discover or that life has no depth or you can’t become wiser or experience a richer and diverse exciting life . I’m saying that what is being sought is already the very reality in which the search is happening.