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OK maybe every once in a while ...Maybe providing further explanation why he thinks this is full of shit ..maybe adding a friendly emoji to ensure that we are just friends at the same level . The other thing is this is not the first time. They both troll Leo a lot .and yes the bottom line is obviously Leo is more developed than them and us . So does that mean this is a cult or echochamber ? No. But Leo is the "head coach ". We are "students ". Logically it must follow we treat him with humble. In a reasonable way ofc.

Like flat out insulting him like Carl's comment above without providing more context . Why should that be done ? Listen . Please stop .let's not derail the topic and create drama .

Look at it like this. There is always a million things to complain about in your life .you jump out of one hardship to the next. That's life . Anyone suggesting otherwise is fooling himself. The point is there is a logical reason for being hurt if you did experience sexual abuse as a child . My point is this : fuck logic .fuck your past . Forgive the person who raped you .It's a choice of choosing happiness instead of misery. Assume you were abused in childhood..so what are you going to do ? The past is the past. Can't change that .but you can change your present and future . What are you going to do ? Crawl up in a corner for the rest of life ? That's no good life . You realize within yourself first that you are unconditional love . You then forgive others no matter how badly they hurt you .that's the teaching of Jesus right? But when I say it why is it implausible to you ? Maybe because you enjoy crawling up in a corner and crying ? Fine .you do you .

Also while we are at it and this is completey off topic but I want to express this. Carl and my buddy UnbornTao are really getting used to Leo. I sense a lot of arrogance in their writing .I mean they are brilliant but tone down the "too cool for school " thingy with Leo. He has no time to post neat language stuff so he just speaks in a language that a kid can understands .like imagine the pressure he has to mod a bunch of kids basically and handle trolls and create content etc. Another thing which I have to spit publicly is Natasha is too rigid. She says its not personal but that she tries to keep a healthy atmosphere and high quality discourses between members. But I do think sometimes she takes it personally. She erases almost any comments targeted at her with cristism. She is over-moding. Nothing personal against her or Carl or anyone but I'm not satisfied with this behaviour in all honesty . Just expressing myself.

You and UnbornTao are getting used to Leo. You don't have to do it this way, you know that ?

But you can't take him seriously that's the point he is a little cheeky and devilish that's the style he chooses to express himself.

Not at all. You claim you know the absolute answer to the big questions. You said that . In short paragraph: what is existence? Why is it here ? Go ahead .

I'm not saying you are saying I'm wrong or that psychology is BS .

Sorry if I'm derailing the thread or getting too excited lol.

I'm not a toddler to not understand this .you got this one and everyone gets this cuz that's what society tells you to do. I'm offering the other perspective..can you understand that there is no such thing as traumatic in "actuality " ? There was a huge crime that happened back in 2007 in America (not sure but I took it from Sam Harris). Two criminals robbed a house and killed two little girls and stole all the money and then tied their parents to the bed and burned them alive and the entire house . The criminals weren't arrested because they both committed suicide soon after the incident because probably they went "okay why on earth should anyone do that "?. They actually wrote a suicide note saying that they regret what they did . Can you tell me what did you understand from this story ?

No it's not like that "oh I was raped when I was a kid and I'm cursed forever therefore I backward rationalise that and kinda use "unconditional love " as a coping mechanism to deal with the deep uncureable hurt inside of me". I mean you could do that .many people do that. But it doesn't have to always be that way. There is actually seeing things as they are without adding any narrative. This doesn't require so much work actually.

Another thing is this can't be understood from the relative perspective. No psychology can explain how this can be . And I'm speaking of myself here not Leo. He didn't male it clear as day as to whether he was molested or not .I certainly didn't. But I was shat upon (metaphorically) when I was a kid .because I had very weak physique couldn't fight with bullies. I'm now improved physically because I understand the game of life is played at the relative level .but at the relative level is exactly that..just games . The Absolute just sits there doing nothing .

After you awaken deepley..All parts of you will improve. It's amazing how it works. You stop seeing evil. First you stop seeing evil in yourself, you sort of forgive yourself for all of your mistakes. It's like being born again and then you can forgive everybody else, totally, completely. You become free, unlearn everything and you feel your omnipresence. You realize you are not yourself as a person, you are the Self as the universe. Okay I was tempted to post this comment as my own writing but this is a quote by Robert Adams. Love you Leo. I understand exactly what you're saying. I actually I'm not lying I find it hilarious to even judge anyone anymore . Im not lying or trynna come off as christ or Smth but that's where I'm at my journey and there is no going back to judging others even if they want to kill me. Obviously my body will resist a serial killer's trying to kill me but what I mean is anyone who's actually had insight into how self works and how consciousness works in individuals or how karma works or how free will works or how unconditional love works is just gonna know that judging people even if they double anal bang you is just absurdity.

@Cred I know but what I'm saying is you haven't figured out anything. Your so called answer to the question of " how did it all began?" Is just philosophical schemes and mental models. It doesn't answer the question. In this work there is one fundamental existential question at the heart of it all..what the fuck is happening now? This is basically the question. What is your answer exactly? You creating logical maps is only getting you in the wrong direction. Every word you speak is getting you in the wrong direction .because I'm asking what is THIS? Look at your screen now ..I'm asking what is this screen ? You can't answer that question with anything you say .

That's not what I'm saying . I clearly stated that some theories or "maps " are more accurate or more representative of actual reality than others. If you say reality is made out of mathematical equations then that's just false but it's close to actual reality because at some level it is made of math .but if you say reality is made out of bananas then that's hocus pocus. So not any and every theory is off the mark . Some are definitely more accurate and truer than others . The point is still ..a theory is a theory. What is a theory made out of ? Concepts ..thoughts..words..symbols. and this amounts to nothing substantial or actual . That's what I meant.