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What is meant by you are dreaming reality instead of experiencing reality ? What’s the practical difference? Are you just being edgy and nihilistic about it ? The word dream means those experiences you experience when you go to bed at night. Every time you say the word dream that’s what is being associated with in your mind . So by definition the waking life is not a dream because you just made the distinction between the two . There is a contrast. This is really stretching my abilities to explain I want to explain it clearly . Let’s say fuck it we are dreaming . What is implied here ? Life is not real ? But that’s some fine horseshit cuz HERE IT IS ANYWAYS. So dream or not you are going to live this thing . How will you navigate your way in it by believing it’s not real ?

@Mellowmarsh sister , chil. Ask till tomorrow. I’m not a bad person lol 😂. That’s just my style . You’re familiar with it . You played dumb . When I said “ stop interfering with our own lives “ you said then why you keep plumbing toxic skepticism. I literally explained to you why I’m doing this . I’m well established in my own mind about all this stuff . I’m asking to shake you awake . I know whether there is god or not . I know whether life is a dream or not . It’s just i changed my style from asserting propositions like” this is how it is “ to sneaking in questions which I already know the answers to , to help other members relate or understand .

@Mellowmarsh You’re seriously asking what is god ? You people watch the man’s lectures or just hang out on the forum ?

@Nemra there is eternal fight between fear and survival and truth .

exactly. If all forms come and go then there aren’t levels of realness . No such thing as “more real “ just because it’s high resolution and dreams are murky ..or because this is consistent and the other wacky . So what’s the metric of truth or realness then ? Not consistency or resolution but experience. If its experienced it’s true and the rest is obvious.

The Rumi quote I knock on the door and it opens I’ve been knocking from inside. That’s the cosmic joke . You want to wake up there and then . Later . Not realizing there is nothing but here and now so good luck with that .

Where are you going to wake up to ? You are not using it as a dream analogy you are literally saying life is a dream. When you dream there is the dream world then you wake up in the real world . You say the real world is also dream just longer or more seductive and consistent but a dream nonetheless . So when I wake up from this world I will wake up where ? Go ahead .

My sides lol you just opened a thread asking the question that Leo’s whole career is built upon . It’s like yeah interesting question maybe Leo should shoot a video about god i never heard him explaining god before 😂 seriously get this right .. when I ask these maddening existential questions I’m doing it for the people who read not to me. It’s like you rape your mind until you get what is actually true and what is not . What is being asleep and what is awake . What is the true self and what is the false self . What is mortal and what is immortal . This whole dream vs reality clout is hilarious to me . There is no true experience and false experience . Experience is absolute. Either there is experience or there isn’t . If there is there is . If there isn’t there isn’t .

Also give this an open mind and try to understand what he is saying . I know he is boring with his slow motion talking but it’s short clip.

Imagine taking a cup and going to the beach and you try to contain the whole ocean inside a cup. That’s like the finite mind trying to contain the infinite . It’s unknowable . Infinite mystery . We can approach higher and higher detailed understanding but I gave you the big picture .

yeah sure the plot twist is inside my head . As if this statement means anything on god ‘s earth .here is what I mean : He said in the ultimate analysis there is no difference between imagination and reality . I asked then what about the life is a dream fetish ? You enjoy calling life illusory to bypass your suffering ? I don’t see any reason for adopting solipsism as a worldview except either if you want to go crazy or you want to bypass suffering . This doesn’t mean solipsism is false .it is highly likely true but at the end of the day the appearance of separation is here to be experienced as such . If I imagined separation then that’s what I want . Let’s stop interfering with what we want .

It’s not a matter of life is a dream since no one here can tell me how dreams come about . You are just offloading this mysterious phenomenon here to an even more mysterious phenomenon. What is implied by the dream model is life is somehow an illusion. There are no illusions because they are illusions (duh) . A dream at night is real. You experience it then it’s real . It’s not even obvious that a dream at night is solipsistic ..maybe the dream characters are conscious. No one knows squat .

you stopped imagining people in houses but you still imagine people on the internet in different parts of the planet? you’ve got work to do . You are not fully awake .

For god Sake ? For my ass sake.. trying to talk , you don’t talk your entire thread is AI generated posts . You are backing off like a wussy when I tackled the real issue. You thought this guy is easy to use like a boxing bag . You’re dead wrong. I rip you apart with a single paragraph . see what you did

If there is no difference then where is the plot twist ?