Terell Kirby

There is no God Realization that doesn’t include Enlightenment in my experience. However-it’s a mystery to me how Enlightened Zen masters can miss God

Gets me closer to the Truth of the matter. But hey, that’s just me

To see if it shatters his notions of Enlightenment and Consciousness

Epic

is it applicable to Alien Consciousness? Keep in mind Consciousness is infinite and there are infinite radically different states. Is what Ralston even says relevant at a peak 5 MEO DMT trip? I don't have the answer to such questions

Realized I was misunderstanding his points about Ralston. But truthfully- one cannot deeply understand Consciousness without making proper distinctions within it. This is where something a like psychedelic is superior. Ralstons retreats and contemplation intensives can’t rise to the level of making such distinctions, it’s limited to the sober, human waking state. Ralston could be more humble about it-it doesn’t negate its work, it just points out limitations. Psychedelics also have their own inherent limitations

Awesome- thank you

Hey Leo- if / when you do the psych retreat, how will word get out? Mainly thru forum?

I am considering ENB and contemplation intensive workshops in the Spring. Do share details on workshop structure if willing. Many thanks.

Both paths are not guaranteed to lead to God I’m realizing. Strange indeed

Let’s not straw man the spiritual axiom of letting go of control and acceptance. We all have things we could do without

Watch for ego turning teachings into mean for spiritual bypass. A common trap in this work

Depends on what you mean by mediocrity. Existence IS Existence. The labels we put on it really don’t mean much in the end. God is intelligent because it designed all of Existence God doesn’t care if we live a mediocre existence or not, it’s just here to hold space for it. for turning your life into something great from mediocrity, that’s where practical self help comes in- but that’s our responsibility for survival, not Gods

Ralston is the man, despite his closed mind on psychedelics, his teachings are kick ass. also- idk why we are tripping out on Leo, he’s given Ralston his flowers plenty of times over

Woah woah .. easy there now lol. I’m not an exception-humans have egos, it’s a natural thing and totally ok

Lmaoo Never met any human who wasn’t full of themselves either. Seems it’s in their nature

You are truly in a rare position. I hope to take advantage of your psych retreat to get at least a fragment / taste of this

We place responsibility for our negative emotions on others from the perceived harm they caused. Forgiveness is claiming our power back, take on our emotions as ours alone-accepting that burden. Think of how many times we have wronged others-whether intentional or unintentional. It is the human condition-we can learn to let go through accepting our flaws and the flaws others while at the same time raising our standards so that those around raise theirs.

Im telling @Princess Arabia on you

God hallucinates all of scientific facts, measurements, the brain and objective reality. Are you able to catch your own Mind doing all of this?

Level 1: Enlightened hippie Level 2: God Realized Sage

If you insist. After all, You are God imagining that everything in reality is a 2D cardboard cut out. What matters is becoming conscious of how your mind imagine things

This is false- God is not found in any object. God is dreaming up all objects.

How do you know that’s true? Of all the humans you know-have you ever accessed their mind to have a direct experience of them recording reality? How do we know it’s their mind doing it and not yours? How do you know your mind is belongs to a human of some sort, is that actually the case? what if it’s something entirely different? All good questions to ponder / contemplate

Hmm idk Leo-some would argue it’s essential to be isolated to create a powerful mind.. not that I have any interest in defending Ralston, just playing devils advocate More like his mind is closed on certain theories of Consciousness..one being that there exists a real distinction between lower and higher states-arguing mainly that it’s a conceptual distinction created in the human mind through language and abstraction. I’d imagine his stance would change after exploring radical state changes which you can tell he has limited experience doing. Ralston, for what it’s worth, has grasped some very important insights into the nature of reality , self and Being (which is important for Consciousness work). Would more DMT broaden his perspective? Absolutely-but doesn’t negate what he teaches at a base level.