Terell Kirby

A good Book reference: Ending Unnecessary Suffering-Peter Ralston

Wonderful. i am rewatching your episode on conformity, probably my 3rd or 4th time. The ideas in this are so profound, I’m looking forward to these being introduced on podcast forum, hopefully reaching a broader audience.

Geez that would make it worse I’d assume

Of course. You Cant land an 8/10 girlfriend without first developing social skills, and social skills require you get out of the house to socialize. So yes, there is a tradeoff in that one takes away time from the other, but also can be done across different periods of your life.

That’s not actually verifiable across the board. Of course you could say to hell with humanity and cut off all friendships, that would prevent any potential drama and fallout. But that’s not always healthy either. Well that’s cool, but still is an introverts bias

Talking and bullshitting are essential skills to making friends and developing relationships of all kinds. Without negatively framing extroversion as a whole, I’d argue that there are many introverts who envy the skill of bullshitting and talking in others. I’d also argue the skill of bullshitting and talking doesn’t necessarily signal one’s core capacity or lack of capacity to be intelligent. Note: I’m an ENFP, I’m a huge fan of your work and have many insights/Awakenings that I don’t find many here have had-of course this is my assumption, and can only go off what I read

The illusion of my, me & mine. What stands in its place is Nothing proper.

When I finally understood what Allah was, the last thing I wanted to do was wage war against the infidels.

Hmm . It’s not like extroverts aren’t capable of deep thought or existential thinking- they just spend less time engaged in those pursuits

First time was in 2020 during COVID. Learned a lot, and it was helpful- but feel as though my values and direction have changed (given newfound sobriety and awakenings). I'm at a different place and life i think taking the course again could help redirect. Anyone have experience in taking the course more than once?

How’s the retreat looking? Realistic to expect in 2026?

Yes- some people are dogmatic about the principles of the 12 steps. But also, NA and AA pull many people out of addiction and into recovery. You can’t reap any of the benefits by just criticizing. Get a sponsor and work the steps. Then you’ll know if it’s really worth it or not. Taking care of Survival is not some evil, it’s important to healthy living. To mods: this thread needs to be moved to the mental health discussion section of forum please

Totally .. 2Cs are important and add perspective. We need to be cautious when speaking on the topic of addiction, its sensitive and requires either deep education or lots of personal experience interacting with addicts or those who have recovered, I don't really get this from Leo on such topics- (of course I could be wrong).

Yes, in a sense that their brains prioritize dopamine from their drug of choice over building character-. But also- addicts are human too. We can empathize without getting entangled in their dysfunction.

Seems this pole is conflating Truth and honesty. Not the same thing.

Baby steps- can start with 30 min exercise or yoga in the morning- see where it takes you

Surface level, yes. But your assertion is not accounting for genetic and environmental factors that contribute to an addictive personality. There are entire fields of study devoted to understanding addiction, simply reducing it to irresponsibility is not adequate enough in my opinion.

How are you even finding time to post on this forum? I would think time could be better spent improving your conditions

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Is rationality true?: depends on your state of Consciousness Is science true?: depends on your state of Consciousness Rationality must engage in context stripping to ground the mysterious nature of reality. But of course, Consciousness is Infinite-is it impossible to ground by stripping away context dependent variables. This is where science & rationality fail Meta Rationality-acknowledges context is King. Any rational truths or experiment can be considered partial-thus making the entire enterprise of science wrong in an absolute sense, but practical / useful in finding solutions for context laden problems. From this lens, rationality can never be true- but it can be useful. Rationalism-as a worldview invoked for sense making purposes, is neither context aware, nor construct aware. Making it highly limited as a survival system.

You ain't seen nothin yet:

Reframe the discussion topic as: Consequences of political violence- when is it appropriate and when does it backfire? that would be more politically correct

Just because something works for practical reasons doesn't mean it can't be done out of conformity. Think about how many things we adopt without actually questioning why we do it and where it came from. The point is not that we adopt things, but its the lack of investigation and questioning into the why. This is the essence of conformity.. very subtle

A lot of Sex education in schools is conformity. Most of it comes from the scientific paradigm-we are teaching kids about diseases and such (which is good), but could use more unconventional and experiential modes of learning. Having kids/teens understand what horniness is and how to manage it responsibly, creating learning environments where kids can talk openly, not just get lectured by some old professor

Haha that would be a form of voyeurism, creepy, yes - but can be authentically non conformist and isn’t illegal in this context.