Terell Kirby

Forget the Bible-serve us up some Assyrian law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_law

Doesn't matter what we think. But I do sense some hesitancy and confusion in your words. Maybe its not that you hate talking to people- but more or less trying to find the meaning in communication itself. You are always in relation and communion with God-be it with or without interactions with humans. As consciousness grows, things are seen differently-engaging with humans is a tricky and complex proposition. There's a lot of human shit to get lost in, but also much to learn from .. especially about one's own psyche.

1:14:58- "That same guy who can't build a business, is the same guy that supported 2020". ....so according to Owen, if you supported Covid-19 lockdowns and a mask mandate you certainly are not entrepreuerial by nature. Low perspective makes simplistic, absolutist statements that lack nuanced/sophisticated distinctions. Note: Owen criticizes wokeness as group think, but doesn't acknowledge his position itself on "woke" is coming from group think (echo chambers formed in intellectual dark web and alternative media circles). ** this is great for studying how self deception works on the human mind.

Still planning a part 3? Hope to get part 2 on lower vs. higher perspective. That’s probably my fav epistemological oriented series thus far.

Brilliant episode, @Leo Gura Your intelligence of late is blossoming in ways I haven't seen in all my years following your content.

Great film I watched the other night around a similar topic:

@Leo Gura wonderful job on your blog posting as of late. So much juicy content it’s sad to know alot of people don’t know about it. Thank you !

Certainly - history will judge us harshly for Trump .. thats for sure.

I think this is cool, actually not much of a need to assign labels, it’s just something you’re passionate about, a creative project. I’d put more energy into creativity than caught up on spiral stage you’re at. My experience tells me that advancing up the stages looks different for different people. And that higher doesn’t necessarily mean better-you can be miserable at a higher stage by failing to completely go through and integrate lower. So be patient with yourself, advancing up the spiral in a healthy/responsible manner is no easy feat-and there are certain genetic and environmental factors at play that are sometimes outside of our control.

I hear you- although I will say at some point you hit bottom. Your life becomes shit and you have no other option but to change- even though it’s difficult. A willingness to go to any length

DEI at its highest level challenges oppressive hierarchies and white patriarchal power in various institutions and bureaucracies. It champions stage Green multi culturalism and pluralism. Of course it has its excesses but that’s not what conservatives (Blue, Orange) are really talking about. They strawman DEI and criticize from below. Only legitimate criticisms of DEI are from a stage Green and Yellow perspective.

@Leo Gura I feel as thought the Actualized channel and forum has gotten away from the study of Spiral Dynamics over the past few years-so I was happy to see this post. Understanding these stages are really the only viable way to not get sucked into these culture wars-God knows where I would be if I didn’t know anything about Spiral Dynamics. I would argue that the word ‘woke/woke-ness’ itself is a derogatory label used by stage Blue and stage orange MAGA conservatives use as propaganda against Green. It lumps both healthy and unhealthy aspects into the bucket of woke, so that other conservatives (who are already bad at making nuanced distinctions) will not even begin to see the truths of Green and aspire for higher development. And if I’m honest, it has worked. Acknowledging wokeness as a thing already signals how effective the toxic Blue/Orange memes have been against Green. Oligarchs and tech giants see how such a strategy aligns with their pockets and their power. I used to scoff at Leo when he said it would take 50-100 years for America to settle into Green, especially considering the nations development compared to other nations. But with the recent Trump victory-his assessment couldn’t have been more accurate.

Don't do drugs:

Great example of a low perspective take on the Trump-Zelenskyy Oval Office confrontation. Note: it’s important for me to not get lost in the progressive/liberal echo chamber that assumes Trump and Vance’s behavior was seen as equally appalling across the board. This was red meat for most MAGA people-equivalent to pro wrestling/UFC/junk food-pure dopamine, pure entertainment, pure ego. They love Trump and Vance for this kind of stuff.

Nice! Namaste 🙏🏾

Bold statement- I pray to God that isn't the case, all hell would break lose.

why do you like to play hide and seek so much?

Pretty profound quote from post on Intelligence: "True intelligence requires seeing the importance of deconstructing the self, deconstructing the so-called material world, of deconstructing all imaginary boundaries and divisions in order to apprehend and re-collect more and more dissociated aspects of itself, to reach ever higher levels of abstraction and metaphysical comprehension in order to ultimately achieve complete Unity and realize itself as Sovereign, as God." Deconstruction is mentioned a few times here-gets harder and harder to circumvent the necessity of deconstruction the deeper I go. It's not like I can ever see outside of the dream since it's all there, therefore nothing for me to do more worthwhile than deconstructing various ideas that hold me back from embracing the dream as it is .... a dream.

No self is a visual and sensual phenomenon for me. I can feel into the disembodied agent that is moving around in physical space time. I’m not my body, I’m just experiencing it. God consciousness shows up as the highest degree of construct awareness. It’s often fleeting, but can access some of it in quiet contemplation. From here everything becomes an elaborate self constructed dream and narrative imbued with intelligence. I can also acknowledge there are infinitely higher degrees of this that are not accessible in a sober state.

Kind of how I feel about Truth-although I would argue that the re-contextualization of reality that comes from realizing a space kangaroo does change things (at least intellectually), which can has its effects on human life in subtle ways. Like if a human told me a space kangaroo is a fantasy after I had come into contact with one, I’d reach certain conclusions about that human and other human narratives that I wouldn’t have otherwise. (ie. A profound distrust in human narratives about space kangaroos). Imagine if this were to happen and I was part of a cult whose sole existence was to deny the reality of space kangaroos. That would change human life in a very significant, mind shattering way.

Cringeworthy is an understatement:

Vlad is such a breath of fresh air in today’s media environment. His political takes are world class:

Beware of the trap in using this criteria to categorize a perspective as low. I’ve fallen into this many times-truth is, what Leo teaches on the subject of God realization is highly advanced and unconventional relative to even the highest of human perspectives. God Realization transcends any distinctions between low and high perspectives (once you become directly conscious of how all perspectives and distinctions between them are being imagined).

I’m glad you pointed this out-it’s a real struggle for some of us to let go. This is especially the case for me when you see MAGA fascism come out on top as they did in the election. Leftists, liberals and progressives are desperately needing something to hold onto. Yet I realize truth and acceptance of reality as is requires letting go of the need to find something to grip as progressive ideals are spat on by the masses. There is wisdom in that; most of the pushback you get is coming from a resistance to the emotional labor required to be wise. I’ve struggled with it, I’m sure others have as well.