Terell Kirby

How is this integrated? Could use some solutions so we aren’t lost and have a path forward. We’re taking real chances in life to discover God

You are God Only thing real is Gods Dream-which is the same as your Dream.

insight You can’t claim to be a Christian if you don’t hold a belief in your mind of Jesus Christ as your lord and savior if you hold such belief, you can’t possibly understand how you are God constructing an image of Jesus Christ along with Christian narratives, and all of reality as you know it. No Christian philosophers acknowledge these fundamental truths—if they did, bye bye to their Christian worldview.

Best analysis of Trumps psychology I’ve seen thus far:

hmm examples? My impression is that even esoteric sects who claim this are still lost in fantasy and human constructions. Religions fundamentally are a design for living well, but they don't lead you to transcending the constructed meanings behind living well-and towards God Realization. To be part of/claim a sect of any religion, even esoteric, is fundamentally antithetical to the highest Truth of reality. Religion is mostly about identity, conformity and group think in various degrees. There are both healthy and unhealthy aspects to this, but it's not in the same lane as God proper. These two are on opposite ends of the spiritual spectrum

Any religion or worldview that doesn't lead you to the realization that you are God dreaming up set religion or worldview ... is nonsense (which is all of them). Of course this is in the Absolute sense, there are partial truths to religion from a relative POV.

I believe a great deal of us underestimate how transformative and emotionally painful freeing your mind from human corruption is. It's like extracting an cancerous tumor with no anesthetic. You are a spiritual surgeon in some sense, with sole aim of completing an operation that will save us from things we don't quite know are dangerous -- the goal transcends the method. I'm feeling that the level of sensitivity has increased on the forum as of late, I think it'a good thing -- because the more serious you become as a teacher in rooting out human corruptions to epistemology, it screens people out who are not serious. It all goes back to insights picked up from your video on the dark side of spirituality. Many of us are not ready to give up our attachments to pursue higher order consciousness (in a sense- I'm not either-at least with some things). I wish more of us had the integrity to admit this to ourselves, than to somehow demand that you lower your epistemic standards for our comfort.

the greatest insight of all time. So profound but leaves us in such awe and mystery. Life becomes an Infinite game of Self discovery from here.

Forget the Bible-serve us up some Assyrian law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_law

Doesn't matter what we think. But I do sense some hesitancy and confusion in your words. Maybe its not that you hate talking to people- but more or less trying to find the meaning in communication itself. You are always in relation and communion with God-be it with or without interactions with humans. As consciousness grows, things are seen differently-engaging with humans is a tricky and complex proposition. There's a lot of human shit to get lost in, but also much to learn from .. especially about one's own psyche.

1:14:58- "That same guy who can't build a business, is the same guy that supported 2020". ....so according to Owen, if you supported Covid-19 lockdowns and a mask mandate you certainly are not entrepreuerial by nature. Low perspective makes simplistic, absolutist statements that lack nuanced/sophisticated distinctions. Note: Owen criticizes wokeness as group think, but doesn't acknowledge his position itself on "woke" is coming from group think (echo chambers formed in intellectual dark web and alternative media circles). ** this is great for studying how self deception works on the human mind.

Still planning a part 3? Hope to get part 2 on lower vs. higher perspective. That’s probably my fav epistemological oriented series thus far.

Brilliant episode, @Leo Gura Your intelligence of late is blossoming in ways I haven't seen in all my years following your content.

Great film I watched the other night around a similar topic:

@Leo Gura wonderful job on your blog posting as of late. So much juicy content it’s sad to know alot of people don’t know about it. Thank you !

Certainly - history will judge us harshly for Trump .. thats for sure.

I think this is cool, actually not much of a need to assign labels, it’s just something you’re passionate about, a creative project. I’d put more energy into creativity than caught up on spiral stage you’re at. My experience tells me that advancing up the stages looks different for different people. And that higher doesn’t necessarily mean better-you can be miserable at a higher stage by failing to completely go through and integrate lower. So be patient with yourself, advancing up the spiral in a healthy/responsible manner is no easy feat-and there are certain genetic and environmental factors at play that are sometimes outside of our control.

I hear you- although I will say at some point you hit bottom. Your life becomes shit and you have no other option but to change- even though it’s difficult. A willingness to go to any length

DEI at its highest level challenges oppressive hierarchies and white patriarchal power in various institutions and bureaucracies. It champions stage Green multi culturalism and pluralism. Of course it has its excesses but that’s not what conservatives (Blue, Orange) are really talking about. They strawman DEI and criticize from below. Only legitimate criticisms of DEI are from a stage Green and Yellow perspective.

@Leo Gura I feel as thought the Actualized channel and forum has gotten away from the study of Spiral Dynamics over the past few years-so I was happy to see this post. Understanding these stages are really the only viable way to not get sucked into these culture wars-God knows where I would be if I didn’t know anything about Spiral Dynamics. I would argue that the word ‘woke/woke-ness’ itself is a derogatory label used by stage Blue and stage orange MAGA conservatives use as propaganda against Green. It lumps both healthy and unhealthy aspects into the bucket of woke, so that other conservatives (who are already bad at making nuanced distinctions) will not even begin to see the truths of Green and aspire for higher development. And if I’m honest, it has worked. Acknowledging wokeness as a thing already signals how effective the toxic Blue/Orange memes have been against Green. Oligarchs and tech giants see how such a strategy aligns with their pockets and their power. I used to scoff at Leo when he said it would take 50-100 years for America to settle into Green, especially considering the nations development compared to other nations. But with the recent Trump victory-his assessment couldn’t have been more accurate.

Don't do drugs:

Great example of a low perspective take on the Trump-Zelenskyy Oval Office confrontation. Note: it’s important for me to not get lost in the progressive/liberal echo chamber that assumes Trump and Vance’s behavior was seen as equally appalling across the board. This was red meat for most MAGA people-equivalent to pro wrestling/UFC/junk food-pure dopamine, pure entertainment, pure ego. They love Trump and Vance for this kind of stuff.

Nice! Namaste 🙏🏾

Bold statement- I pray to God that isn't the case, all hell would break lose.