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@Tyler Robinson you say that there is no healthy side to blue, which I feel is wrong thats my argument, i do not want society to go back to blue that would be crap. The reason why we are talking about a healthy blue values to begin with is because of the unhealthy aspects of other stages that can’t be fixed with some bits of blue values. you don’t think the culture of stealing people’s money and selling them broken products is bad? You wouldn’t get that with some business owner that has integrated blue values, but you might get it with a stage orange kid who grew up without any blue values and think it’s a great strategy to sell things to people if the product could last for a whole year “who gives a shit about lying to people?”

@Tyler Robinson the problem is that your forcing your world view on someone else’s world view, and making that a valid argument … “but stage blue shouldn't do that because it’s bad/abusive” I’ve lived in a stage red/purple society, i’ve learned to appreciate blue just out of contrast, which is a funny thing! many people in the west will not be able understand this … especially being born in a largely stage orange society where everything just works and people just do their thing and everyone is doing there own part. You kind of just get super blind to what you have for granted.

meditation first for me. I got interested in it after getting curious about the Beatles (not born in the west, so what the Beatles represented was totally not something that I grow up knowing) and then learned about transcendental meditation. after that went on r/meditation learned a bit about buddhism, used headspace the app and persisted with it for about two years of daily meditation (avg 15 min). In the past two years I had a condition that made meditation herd/impossible so I stoped. I'm thinking of getting back to it when I get a bit better. psychedelics came second, used it mainly because I had depression and out of curiosity. not depressed anymore, had a great effect on my life, but no awaking experience as far as I can tell ? I actually don't know what an awaking experience is/what counts as one? it decently improved my emotions and got me get curious about life, I'm still a noob at it, but It's a good force in my life when I use it correctly

@Fearey wouldn’t be easy to change your life to the better with considerable ease with this amount of money? I guess I’m miss-understanding how hard it is to for a stage orange to change course/hardly held beliefs, and see the world form another perspective. EDIT: my intuition says that he’s possibly shoot himself in the foot doing exactly what his socity “told” him to to once you have the money: buy a big ass house an throw parities … that life! Not paying attention to he himself ‘actually’ wanted! Also hanging out with celebrities could’ve ruined him, these people are larger than life and highly abnormal I assume.

@Loba lol i see that, it’d be nice if Disneyland could have a theme parks where you can live these fantasies for a day or two, one for each gender and lgptq+

@Loba I think op is just expressing what every guy in history have thought of at least once in their lives. It’s like how girls fantasize about being princesses or royalty, it’s just that guys are more straight to the point and all about function. guys would say: “why do girls like to be served by a fleet of servants and have 100 drawers of jewelry ? what a tasteless life!” miss understanding that female thrive in their own way in social roles self appreciation.

Theres meaning in pleasure and pleasure in meaning though. it’s often not possible to get both the way you are describing, but it’s completely possible if some conditions where meet.

Aha, beautifully said?

Just thought I’d post this here, this guy is explaining what I have : (short vid less than 3 min) https://www.reddit.com/r/costochondritis/comments/w87gjy/please_upvote_so_every_one_can_finally_be_cured/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x the backpod he shows in the video works for me, but it’s very slow for recovery. If you recognize what this condition is about please let me know.

Yeah, please? I don’t really understand what evidence would qualifies a turquoise thinker, but any insights I guess would be good.

@Leo Gura didn't you in one of your 5-meo videos say that "if the buddha had Sony this is what kind of video he would be recording"? were you not having a god awakening in that trip?

What does it mean to integrate the spiral into one’s self ? Isn’t the goal of SD is that it’s clears any misunderstandings about others, who may have different values (lower or higher in the spiral from the point of perspective) and instead work as a sense-making tool to enhance cooperation among people ?(especially for companies since I guess this was it’s original purpose) So stage yellow will theoretically want to create schools, companies, businesses, societies etc, that uses the model, which in it’s turn will unite people with different values in actuality. your saying that turquoise would go even farther than that ? So what's mentioned above is not what you're suggesting to be “uniting the spiral in the real world” ?

I've watched these two episodes and what you say in your posts resonates with me, however, I don't really know where to go or what to do from there? I understand that science is making models and it will never grasp true reality this way...Is the ultimate philosophy of life is to understand reality experientially ?

how? you can't just make a mass of land disappear out of the face of the earth.

Why no ? There’s a book on Leo’s book list about this: how introverts are looked at as having something wrong about them, the book is about busting that myth and if I remember correctly, about how to best deal with introverted children. generally I think introverts get stereotyped and judge heavily if they don’t show social traits or try to jump in like extrovert do - I would’ve said “at least in the US” but I’ve experienced that also in other cultures.

came to the forum to speak about this topic: it seems like knowing how to talk, joke and throw playful comments meme is something like a second nature to some people. to me it feels like"how the hell are they doing this?! how do the find the right thing to say/put in a chat?!" it seems to me like they have a plan or like they rehearse this shit sometimes! but Idk, would love if Leo can talk about this more, as he say he's transcended being an introvert or something like that.

call me a reactionary as mush as you’d like. This type of speech is a mirror of how ISIS/extreme muslim movement leaders speak. it might appear to you like the politics and the movies your used to, big bold talk just to grab attention and increase views, yet this is exactly what got young men and women misguided and brainwashed into raiding countries and establish a khalif “ in order to go back to the golden age of islam” form someone form that part of the world who has been driven outside of their county because of this crap, this is alarming ! Idk it you people in the west are not used to seeing this or you’re too in your head to realize — possibly you’ve had a normal run as a socity for too long to realize the danger of this, but this is what terrorist start at, this is the forefront — you all better pay attention and take this serious. this is similar to in-sighting jihad, nothing good comes out of this.

fascism is rising in places like Europe, Turkey, India, Russia, some part of Japan I heard and who knows where else.. One would think that the US has it's particular problems and culture wars and that's why it's having this phenomenon arise, but why is it also arising in all of these other countries like this ?

What deep things are you talking about? I followed JP when he first emerged and seen most of his lectures, yes what he teaches is valid but in this instance he’s just over reacting. If he closes his eyes, sight out the negative shit and just stop preching for a while he’ll be in a lot better place. I would defend JP, but you know very well he’s just hard headed and won’t take a break/take it easy on himself.

(Don’t know what his health issues are) Don’t think so, it’s not his time, it’s a very slim chance that he’s going ro find a way to appreciate stage green. Essentially his political, religious and most basic views about life are at odds with the new green. The kind of world view he grow up with is: they are commies who are going to destroy society the government and eventually the world. Good luck convincing the Palestinies that the isralies where terrorized too - it’s this bad. Poor guy, not hating on him.

I think he has grounded his own life and having meaning/a reason to continue on living in the bible, as he holds it as the highest teachings. Idk what the context of Antifa/what they are talking about is all about, but the postmodern values the young generation has is basically deconstructing/questioning everything and all 'meaning' reaching a conclusion that many of the things society have held meaningful like race, religion,gender etc is meaning-less, just a construct, and that's what JP is reacting badly against. He's witnessing his whole reasons to live in the current world/his life work in psychology(I'm guessing?) being ridiculed by by the young generation. which is enough to make anyone go crazy.

Unpack this ? The whole universe is not actually there? I doesn’t help to be straight to the point when theres a lot of room for interpretation; what if i’m imagining a flat earth? Which imagination would be more true?

I think I read some where that they are like the oracles of ancient grace, they can be like a hint towards the right direction/to the what you should do in your life, it depends on you the receiver. think about it, wisdom isn’t something rational that you can explain with numbers, and in our current times there it is only sane to rely on people who’ve studied theories, for example a Financial advisor to give you advice —but only in their field. Who are you gonna rely on when it comes to general life advice or making a life choice generally ? Tarot cards kind of gives you an idea to meditate on. Osho believes in tarot cards, he has a tarot card setThat I use sometimes for fun. I think it’s magical thinking, and superstition if its taken too literally, as green turquoise and purple seems to believe in them, and those stages have magical thinking which is why they relate to each other better than other stages.

I can remember magical-thinking in my childhood, but what would mirror tribalism in a child mindset?

@Leo Gura since we have an new section in the forum, I thought i’d ask if you are planning on making a video about shamanism and/or the teachings of Don Juan. I’m interested because non of my trips I have had have any relation to what the books mentioned, and I initially bought the books following what you wrote in the book description: that you have validated through your own experiences with psychedelics, that those supernatural events in the book matches your experiments. the books mentions weird creatures, colorful auras, an egg shaped form that humans take, among other things … For anyone else who’s read the books : have you had similar trips? Any idea how to interpret it ? Whats your opinion about the validity of these books?