JessiChell

Leo say's changing the problem so you don't experience it is not fixing the problem. You have to deal with the way you feel about it. Only look inward.

People change daily. Given you've watched him for so long, he may seem less familiar to you. I am still in Leo's early videos. I've seen very short moments of his newer videos and he's a completely different person. I noticed Leo lacks empathy in things I've seen here and in videos. But we all lack empathy. There's no reason to judge this aspect of him or any other aspects. He is his own god. His own sovereign. You are yours. Love him despite these observations. He's doing enough, he is enough. I wouldn't say Tolle is for "pussies." He has a very different way of speaking. He's more polite and sensitive. It also sounds like he's British. They're more polite. I'm going through a Tolle phase. He's difficult to relate to and listen to but I'm forcing myself to gain a different perspective. I've noticed I'm too forward and too brash at times. Which is why I was attracted to Leo. So maybe Leo is not meant to be my main teacher. But he is still pure love.

I'll ask the forum this because I need to understand quickly. Is it normal to feel lonely after socializing? I've realized after social interactions, group interactions or being around someone I'm not completely comfortable with (like a partner), I get the feeling of loneliness. It's so strange because I'm alone a lot. I have been working on loneliness feeling but I generally feel great or happy by myself. Does anyone else feel drained or lonely after group interactions? Or being a round one person who you dont necessarily enjoy their company as much as being alone? Thank you.

@gggkkk Go on air bnb and look. Look for small cabins or yurts. I did mine in a yurt. Was 67$ per night. Or book a camping site and take a tent. I did 6 days. It depends on how comfortable you are in your own solitude. I think everyone is at different levels. I had no problems. But there were times where I was bored. And I lack discipline so I struggled to meditate for long periods of time. Bring warm clothes for the nighttime. I believe 5 days is more than enough but do 7 if you're able. I'm sure the longer you're there, the better. You get used to no distractions. It helped me align my focus and calm me down. Edit: Bring a book as a treat. Maybe an enlightenment book. I know this breaks the rules but just use it as a way to teach yourself about managing distractions. I read two books on the last two days. I'll admit.

@capriciousduck Plippie looks incredibly enlightened. I love him. He is everything <3

@capriciousduck You have to practice not being shy. It's a skill. Leo has some videos I think on this. Just say what's on your mind. I love your dog. What's their name? This is my mo

@Onemanwolfpac When I said, "enjoy the feeling of shame and disgust?" Yes. Women love feeling shame and disgust during sex. We are raised differently than men. "Close your legs. Act like a lady. Good girls don't do that. Cover your shoulders, it will distract men." Women have been taught to constantly feel shame just by existing. So of course we bring it into the bedroom. I can't give advice on whether or not it's healthy but I love it. I enjoy it. Women enjoy it. Do I believe I need to cover myself for men? No. Do I believe I'm disgusting when I get up and leave after dirty/shameful sex? No. It's empowering. So I, personally, will not work on this. But I can't speak for others. I will continue to allow myself to get turned on from shame/disgust. Well they are making the decision. Not you. They know they love feeling that way. Remember woman are adults and think very much on why they do/feel things. If they are asking for something, it's something they really want. If you don't fulfill their desires, another man will. We fulfill strange requests from men all the time. What you've been asked to do from a woman, I'm thinking, would fail in comparison to what I've been asked to do for men. And we have to do it with a smile on our face. lol My advice? Take one for the team

@Shir From what I've observed, enlightened people don't believe in romantic relationships or practice them. I spoke to a Reiki master that told me, "leave relationships to our mothers and fathers. Everyone is consumed by their ego, it's almost impossible for a relationship to benefit our higher-selves. It can only benefit our ego." I'm pretty sure Leo would share a similar sentiment. From what I understand, I don't think they can ever truly be beneficial to us. Relationships, for me, filled a hole inside of me. But I had to experience them to figure out I needed to do inner work. So, I'm grateful for the experience. I can't say whether or not I'll become conscious enough to give them up or dating/sex with people entirely, but I would definitely love to. My friends and I have always viewed men as, fun "activities." Men take you out, you have fun, you have sex sometimes, but then you should return to self. Don't move in, don't grow attached, don't expect or want exclusivity, etc. I feel like we can be friends with men and have a good time, but relationships encourage unhealthy attachments and co-dependency.

@modmyth Hey Modmyth, I've been stalking your journals and I really love your artwork and the amount of time you spend reflecting on your life. It's really inspiring. I think there's a lot of truth in what you're saying. I resonate with the feeling of abandoning myself. It builds resentment. Especially since that's been my main issue in romantic relationships. I will say, this was the most present I have been in a situation I didn't want to be in. Usually I escape into my head. So there was some improvement. I thought I would be completely impenetrable to feeling drained. But I think I need to be patient and know that my consciousness and self-love will grow as long as I'm doing the work. Maybe it's like going to the gym for a month and expecting to see unrealistic improvement. Thank you for your response. @bejapuskas I will think about it and try to decipher. Usually warmth is what I enjoy giving.

Can someone give me information on, "meditating in orange light?" The person who did reiki on me during my trip said I need this. She really helped me and I'd like to look into her suggestion. I havent found a lot online on how to do this practically but this is what I've found so far: "Charging the auric field, increasing sexual potency, increasing the immunity system." Thank you ?

@Onemanwolfpac I will reflect on it, thank you

@Nahm hmm, okay.

@bejapuskas me too

@Hardik Still not giving you my Instagram to "connect and grow." ? @Nahm Always the best answer. So we can use shame in sex as long as we dont believe those negative thoughts in life, do I that right?

@IJB063 I can check it out tomorrow. But yeah, you will have no addictions when you're actualized because you do not need distractions or stimulants to be perfectly happy. This is what I said earlier. If you want to watch porn, have a drink, go on social media occasionally, you can do so without becoming addicted. I'm not saying I'm for addiction. I'm saying an actualized person is above addiction.

@IJB063 Believe me, it feels good. ? That's like saying you dont like to get spanked in bed because its painful. Goodnight

@IJB063 But feeling shame during sex doesnt hurt you. It feels good to feel shame. Just like joy or laughter. They're all emotions. This is where I'm confused. But it's okay. I'm too tired to keep going back and forth. I think this may also be a difference of something I'm not putting my finger on. Or I may not be grasping something. I irresponsibly assume most people here have seen lots of Leo's videos. So my definition of actualization comes from his definition. Thanks for chatting

@IJB063 I do believe you and I have different definitions of actualization. So let's agree to disagree with this one. Again, do you believe using shame in sex is abuse? (I didn't understand your point earlier about abuse)

@IJB063 but we arent talking about abuse. We are talking about using shame during sex. Is this abuse? But an actualized person is basically a god. They can do whatever they want, I thought. They are literally present. If your mind was fucked (physically) by a drug then they have probably lost their ability to actualize , right?

@IJB063 You're confusing me because I thought a completely self actualized person wouldnt be dependent on any stimulant(distraction) whatsoever.

@IJB063 you dont believe it's about self acceptance? Like acceptance of reality of percieved failures? Will you explain it to me, if not? I need to understand if its something I want to personally work on.

@Joshi3 but an actualized former alcoholic would be able to have one drink and then quit, no? I'm just struggling to understand.

@Joshi3 Or is it like doing a rail of coke one night if the opportunity presents itself and then not doing anymore coke if it doesn't benefit you or if you don't enjoy the experience fully?

@Joshi3 I see porn as another distraction you can drown in. Just like social media, drugs, relationships. Men I think have less control over this distraction so they need to eliminate it from their lives. Okay I don't remember what video this came from because I've seen so many at this point they all merge together but do you remember Leo giving an example of an addiction/distraction/neurosis and then saying, "if you completely eliminate it from your life, that doesn't mean you've dealt with the real issue?" You've eliminated your addiction to porn but have you eliminated your addictive behavior? I understand putting it aside to actualize. I'm doing that with relationships right now. But avoiding it completely would not fix my problem. Maybe Leo encourages porn because he does not allow himself to become addicted? Because he is conscious of his distractions. Idk I'm just speculating.

@Joshi3 It sounds like you drowned yourself in it. I watch porn occasionally. If I go through sexual dry spells or inadequacy in a partner's performance and I have lean on porn more heavily, I don't find myself sexualizing men more. When I was younger I didn't become addicted. But I'm sure for men it's different. If what you're doing is working for you then I'm glad you found clarity.